Incomplete-tantei wrote:
Yup, I know about the date of the spoilers and such, but I wanna know what is the break about?
Oh whoops, sorry, misunderstood the question xD'''
I'm guessing Shonen Sunday is having a Christmas break
@unclesporkums: Congrats on your 100th post! \o/
sstimson wrote:
All I asked was "Does it really hurt that much to open your mind to other possibilities?"
Why did you take it wrong? I never said you had to think one way or the other
I'll be straight here: you can never ask this bolded question. Or at least, IMO, you shouldn't. The reason why: First, no one can explain it. Every person thinks differently. For instance, I could ask why you took that "Mr. Tonic" joke wrong in the Funny Captions thread, but it wouldn't get anywhere. Second, you made no effort to explain that you meant no harm by that question. It was just thrown on the end of your theory. The internet does not have an emotion button: you need to explain yourself any time there is the possibility of being taken insultingly.
Third: At the very end of my reply, I put "Of course, and I'll say again, maybe it's just me." That was my way of saying: "Hey, maybe I'm just looking at it wrong". Your answer is right there, even before you asked the question.
sstimson wrote:
And my last statement was nothing more then a question, no a judgement, a question.
"Does it really hurt that much to open your mind to other possibilities?" It's a question, yeah, but that doesn't stop it from being insulting. You don't go and ask someone "Is it really that hard to diet to stop being overweight?" That's a question right there and it's
heinous. A question does not equal innocence, especially from someone I assume to be an adult. Children ask questions because they're learning about the world, trying to understand. But if an adult asks a question, sometimes it's not because they want to know something, sometimes it's used as an insult.
Maybe you didn't mean anything, but the way it was worded made me misinterpret the meaning and it felt insulting not only to me but to others. And you know what, because I want to be someone who can, I'll admit to the mistake and apologize: if I misunderstood your initial meaning and reacted in a way that upset you, I am sorry.
Right now, though, is not the initial problem anymore, so I digress.
sstimson wrote:
one that for anyone could have answered for themselves as "no , but i decided to think this way."
This is another thing: if you had that answer in mind,
why did you ask the question?
sstimson wrote:
Please no offense was ever meant. Is there a better way to ask that question?
Alright, to the bold I'll apologize again: sorry I misinterpreted. But to add on, I'll answer your second question: no. "Does it really hurt that much to open your mind to other possibilities?" ...That is the equivalent, to my interpretation (which again, could be wrong), to something like "Why doesn't anyone else think this way?" To which the answer is simple: no one is you. No one thinks like you just like no on thinks like me. No one thinks like Jd-, no one thinks like Commi. No one thinks like anyone else and the problem here is that it seems you want others to think like you.
We can't. We can listen, we can agree, we can have fun, but we just can't immediately come to the same conclusions. It just doesn't work like that.
What I just said explains the below as well
sstimson wrote:
please explain how a question I asked got you thinking that way:
If you don't think like this, you're close-minded (what, this is telling me what I am, how does a personal insult fit with a theory?)
sstimson wrote:Am I a whipping boy to always be thought of as bad and too crazy so I need to be attacked like that?
No, no one is a whipping boy. And seriously, there have been times where some things you have said could've held merit but the way in which it was said made agreeing far less appealing.
You don't deserve to be attacked, I don't, no one does, and if you viewed my comment as an attack, I truly am sorry. I do not mean ill will to the point of making someone feel attacked, but I do feel a need to point out when something
can be seen as insulting. I misinterpreted you, and I have apologized, and now you have misinterpreted me.
sstimson wrote:
That everyone have a right to attack me when I try ever much to avoid attacking or saying you must think this way.
If you feel that everyone is attacking you, then really: I'm sorry. I really am. I wouldn't want anyone to feel that way. However, there is something here that needs to be said: it is true that you (from my experience) don't outright attack people, to a point I'd even stand by. On a different end, though, there have been times where the manner in which your posts have been written can be taken very easily in the wrong way and be made to
seem insulting and condescending.
sstimson wrote:
Where in the past, have I ever said something like you think this way or your a fool?
The fact that my previous post never said anything about being a fool, that right there could be taken as a subtle way of calling me one now.
But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you didn't mean it that way.
sstimson wrote:
Others however seem to enjoy crushing me and in between the line are tell me" since you think the way you do, you are a fool and are to be treated as such?
And who are these others? Is it me? Or is it not? I am not going to go by my first impression, for your sake, but instead I'll put it here for you to reflect on:
First impression of this statement: "You (
sonoci) seem to enjoy crushing me and in between the lines you (
sonoci) are telling me "since you think the way you do, you are a fool and are to be treated as such"
My First response: You are
not me. You do
not say what I enjoy, much less when it is hypocritically demonizing me.
Current impression: "I am feeling ganged up on, please stop"
And my current, revised response: After this post, I will abide. No matter what is said, I'm not going to fill up this thread anymore. I don't want to be taken as some whipper as much as you don't want to be taken as someone who is "demonized"
sstimson wrote:
Is it right for others to demonize me like that, when to the best of my remembering, I never done that?
It certainly isn't right to demonize anyone, but there is something to be said about the human memory. Even if you have photographic memory, no one can know every reaction that anyone they've encountered has had to something they've said. That would require ESP or something. We've all hurt others at times when we meant nothing like it.
Example: Your first question and my first response. According to the only ones who know, us, we were both misinterpreted and we both didn't mean anything by it.
sstimson wrote:
And I am taking a wait and see approach. I do not plan on jumping over the possible cliff just yet.
And that's perfectly fine. My choice was to jump of the cliff. Others have too. Others are up there waiting with you. But no matter where anyone is, it was their choice to be there, no one else's. Some may have been persuaded some may have changed their minds.
@anyone who reaches this point: I apologize to you for wasting space and your time. I will stop right here to avoid anymore space being taken up.
We just don't encourage those subjects of discussions since it usually goes down to very eh....weird discussions)
*doesn't enjoy...those type of topics*)
