Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

[Kogorou]

My riddle is done... I may post it but it's c-square's turn now... What to do?

According to the Rules you have to wait for c-square to post a riddle and solve it.
Even we are bound by the laws of this thread
c-square it's your turn.

[c-square]

My riddle is done... I may post it but it's c-square's turn now... What to do?

According to the Rules you have to wait for c-square to post a riddle and solve it.
Even we are bound by the laws of this thread
c-square it's your turn.

Sorry for the delay..

Here it is:

A teacher one day decided to use a small game to test the deductive skills of her students.  She picked her three brightest students, Amy, Brad and Christine, and had them each sit facing each other.  Next, she had them close their eyes and and explained that she would draw either a blue dot or a black dot on each of their foreheads.  Then, she would ask them to open their eyes and look at each other.  They could not speak or move, but if they saw at least one black dot, they must raise their hand.  The first student to guess the color of the dot on their own forehead and explain how they can be sure their answer is correct, would win a prize.

The teacher then went around and drew a black dot on each of the students' foreheads.  Once finished, she stepped back and told them to open their eyes.  They did so and looked at each other.  Of course, immediately, they all raised their hands.  They sat quietly looking and thinking for a couple minutes, and then Amy said "Teacher, I know the color of my dot.  It must be black."  The teacher asked her how she knew for sure that it was, and Amy explained.  

How did Amy know for sure that her dot was black?

(And, no, there were no mirrors, she didn't peek when her eyes were closed, and none of the other students in the class helped her)

[Blah]

Spoiler:

They can see everyone's hands raised, right? That means there has two be at least two black dots because if there were two blues:

Person one: This person sees one black dot
Person two: This person sees one black dot
Person three: This person sees two blue dots and wouldn't raise their hand

So this option is out, as well as all blue because then there would be no raised hands.

So there is a minimum of two black dots. Amy can see two black dots, this doesn't help her much, hers might be either blue or black. However, if one of the others saw a blue dot on her head they would know they had to be the second black dot, assuming that, since they are the smartest students, they could figure this out.

Maybe, after awhile, she decided that, since they did not say anything, they couldn't be positive they were the automatic second black dot.  She then assumed they were stuck in the same situation as her, seeing two blacks without a blue to confirm they were the second black dot.
Or maybe she decided that the teacher would want it to be a fair test of intelligence and wouldn't give the others an advantage by letting them see the two different color dots while she could only see two black ones.

So she either assumes the kids are as smart as her or the teacher did not give the others an advantage or I missed the point completely and have been spouting out nonsense.

If this is correct, eworm can go ahead and post their riddle.

[c-square]

Spoiler:

They can see everyone's hands raised, right? That means there has two be at least two black dots because if there were two blues:

Person one: This person sees one black dot
Person two: This person sees one black dot
Person three: This person sees two blue dots and wouldn't raise their hand

So this option is out, as well as all blue because then there would be no raised hands.

So there is a minimum of two black dots. Amy can see two black dots, this doesn't help her much, hers might be either blue or black. However, if one of the others saw a blue dot on her head they would know they had to be the second black dot, assuming that, since they are the smartest students, they could figure this out.

Maybe, after awhile, she decided that, since they did not say anything, they couldn't be positive they were the automatic second black dot.  She then assumed they were stuck in the same situation as her, seeing two blacks without a blue to confirm they were the second black dot.
Or maybe she decided that the teacher would want it to be a fair test of intelligence and wouldn't give the others an advantage by letting them see the two different color dots while she could only see two black ones.

So she either assumes the kids are as smart as her or the teacher did not give the others an advantage or I missed the point completely and have been spouting out nonsense.

If this is correct, eworm can go ahead and post their riddle.

Pin Pon!!  You get an A+! 

Spoiler:

Maybe, after awhile, she decided that, since they did not say anything, they couldn't be positive they were the automatic second black dot.  She then assumed they were stuck in the same situation as her, seeing two blacks without a blue to confirm they were the second black dot.

Absolutely correct!

[eworm]

Woah, just by being in school I missed one whole riddle!
I think I'll take advantage of Blah's courtesy and post my most awesome...

  BRAIN-FRYING RIDDLE #3  

  Be excited, brave detectives, for this time it's the ultimate combination of the wickedness of eworm and the awesomeness of our favourite phantom thief! That's right! The third Brain-Frying Riddle is a Kaitou KID's case! *click the button* Truly a challenge all the greatest detectives wait for! Prepare to meet your favourite characters once again!
  Let me say that again – it is absolutely necessary for you to have read the previous riddles and the answers to them before even preparing to think about a possibility of trying to solve this riddle. Blame my love for continuity.

  It has been two months since the last case. Kentaro Akito remains in the hospital, his condition getting better and better. Tsukamoto Keiko has been visiting him frequently and ― that was bound to happen ― they finally decided to start dating. But before that happens, we shall learn some more about Akito's osananajimi, Anegasaki Ryouko. Remember this tomboyish girl who's broke almost all the time? Prepare to be surprised by meeting her father, Anegasaki Yusuke, who's... very rich! What's the reason for Ryouko's trouble with money then? Well, the thing is the two don't like each other a lot. She doesn't agree with her father's obsession with money while he just can't stand her independence and stubbornness.

  But now comes the time Ryouko visits him. She does that once every three months but always brings her friends for company. This time too – she brings Tanaka Shirou and Yoshimizu Outa with her, as always. As Akito's still in the hospital he couldn't come this time, but Ryouko invites Keiko instead. The visit at Yusuke's mansion starts as usual ― each of the guests get their own room, though they usually spend most of the time together. What Ryouko doesn't know is that her father received a familiar looking notice with even more familiar picture on it.

"Prepare to meet me at the night of the next full moon, for that's when I'll be taking your most precious treasure.  ~Kaitou KID"

While Yusuke tries to figure out which of his three most precious jewels – "Sunset Ruby", "Midnight Sapphire" or "Tropical Emerald" - KID is going to steal, his daughter waits impatiently. Shirou seems as excited as she is, while Outa looks indifferent and calm as always. Keiko is in awe of Ryouko's father's mansion though she seems to feel quite uncomfortable here. Being bored out of their skulls they play bridge, hugging version of “spin the bottle” and share short riddles.

The next day inspector Nakamori arrives in the morning. With his big experience he confirms authenticity of the note. Along with Yusuke, Ryouko and the rest, he goes around the mansion. Suddenly they find the second notice from KID on the door of Yusuke's office. It has a red rose attached.

The thief you're eagerly waiting for is already here! Wish him luck! ~Kaitou KID

Everybody's reactions differ. Nakamori says that the note, even though different from the previous one – it has different font, letters size and words' arrangement on the paper – is without a doubt KID's. He wants to pinch everybody's faces, but Ryouko doesn't allow him to touch either her or her friends. Outa starts laughing heartily, which is a totally unexpected reaction coming from him. Keiko seems to be lost in thought, she's been like that the whole day. Shirou doesn't hide his excitement and openly cheers for the thief. This infuriates Yusuke and he start pinching their faces, starting with his own daughter's. No mask comes off but before he does anything else, Outa slaps him in the face, calling him “sick bastard”. Ryouko runs off to her room, seeming to be about to cry. Outa and Shirou follow her, while shocked Yusuke proceeds to the room with the jewels to check on them.

After that Yusuke discovers none of the jewels are missing... yet? Keiko visits Outa's room, but he's not there. She goes to comfort Ryouko and after just a while Outa and Shirou come. Outa wants to say something... and he's holding the red rose KID attached to his second notice...

Want more info, don't you? Here it is – in a new form. Let me introduce to you the Characters' Hints!

Ryouko: “I hate my dad... Though I'm surprised Outa slapped him like that!”
Shirou: “Hey, Outa, you never cared about KID's cases, right? Have you had a change of mind?”
Keiko: “There's something suspicious about one of us...”
Outa: “I really wish for this bastard's most precious treasure to be stolen!”
Yusuke: “For certain the three jewels are my most precious possessions!”
Nakamori: “KID is a coward – sending his notice so late”.
Kaitou KID: “There's somebody who already knows my identity... but no fear, I have a plan!”

With this you should be able to deduce what is going on in the mansion and why. Who is KID disguised as? What is he going to steal? What's this suspicious thing Keiko mentions? Is she the person who knows about KID's identity or is it someone different? What is Outa going to say right now and what does it have to do with the rose? How is KID going to escape? Your deduction should answer all these questions and more!

[Kogorou]

That's cool I'm in as always :=)

[eworm]

Ha! You didn't expect KID's case, did you!

Next time bring up something for a week
Not only for a weekend

So I have. This riddle will make you unable to sleep at night for a week or longer.
Waiting for more victims... I mean - participants.

(Akito's taking a break, he deserves it)

[Kogorou]

Ha! You didn't expect KID's case, did you!

Next time bring up something for a week
Not only for a weekend

So I have. This riddle will make you unable to sleep at night for a week or longer.
Waiting for more victims... I mean - participants.

(Akito's taking a break, he deserves it)

I just waited for one

[eworm]

After your deductions for the previous cases I can't wait to read your deduction... cranked up to eleven by KID's appearance!

[KainTheVampire]

Hi everyone, I'd love to try to solve something but I'm too tired lately

No guts, no glory.

Plus I might be a tad insane.  It's not been proven yet, though.

*proves*

... I forgot to write how

Spoiler:

You married me Though you're not insane anymore since I divorced you You were too boring lame

[Edogawa4869]

OMG KAITOU You were too lame boring [/spoiler]
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Fixed.

[Ankor]

eworm, You fried my brain  , but I'm in.

[Kogorou]

Okay Ankor.
eworm you have to excuse me because I will set up a rule for this one. I want to spice things up.
This Riddles solution has to be due by wednesday next week.
All Solutions will be gathered by eworm.
Everbody has one , only ONE try. No clues will be given out. eworm will post all deductions next wednesday.
To clarify next wednesday I talk about American westcost time. I don't live there so don't go on a search and drive those people crazy because I'm not there.
Okay detectives you have your rules.
You can pull out a joker if you can't deduce anything and ask as question here but  that would make the one who gave you the clue to solve this Riddle the winner too!!
If you ruled out everything impossible however  improbable  must be the truth

Okay we will continue in this thread with small riddles.
Blah it's your turn.

[Vylash]

The thruth huh... :x

[Edogawa4869]

I have a feeling that this result isn't conventional.