What is he referring to?Ah, It's waste of time to ask... Because it's just a boring story about stupid wolves that lost their easy prey
...), but I don't lend much credence to this. Although I can't read it, it looks like the Chinese release made a comment about the phrasing as well. If anyone fluent in Chinese wants to comment on this further they can see the relevant page in the spoiler box.Miyano-sama wrote:(NOTICE: 石橋を叩いて渡る literally means: "Strike the stone bridge, and then cross it"
This expression is something like:
Think well before you decide ** make assurance double sure ** Better safe than sorry
Vermouth changed the expression a little bit into "If you beat the stone bridge too much, it would break"
From Miyano-sama's and Cutepeipei's translation it seems like Vermouth is referring to the boss. That was part of the reason I asked. I wanted to know if Vermouth was suggesting that the boss is overly cautious or misquoting or something else...googleearth wrote: In my opinion Vermouth is saying Gin should not be too careful because that's no good either.. She might also be referring to the boss but I don't think that's likely.
cutepeipei wrote: Vermouth:
yes...
boss is serious... he is the type that would check whether the rock bridge is strong enough or not...
Miyano-sama wrote: The boss is very cautious person,
He's like a stone bridge, if you strike it too much, it could break apart...
According to the translation, a "new series" starts next file. That probably means we will start off next week in a completely different situation meaning everyone left the store without incident. That doesn't rule out a continuation of the current arc with a timeskip of several hours or a day or two, but I wouldn't bank on it. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if the beginning third of the next file is Conan musing about this case.googleearth wrote: I hope next week's file continues this storyline because we still don't know who left the message saying "This place is dangerous..." and whether or not Jodie, Camel and the BO see each other. That's probable since BO agents are spread throughout the entire store...
I like your version much better than the one used in the release. You should change it if you are able and willing to...Miyano-sama wrote: OK, I made some changes to the translation that I think would make sense
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...), but I don't lend much credence to this. I am not questioning your translation. But I do have a question.googleearth wrote: I didn't really find that hard to understand. In Japanese there is a expression that literally translates to "Strike the stone bridge, and then cross it", meaning you should be careful. (To me it makes sense, you should make sure the bridge works properly before you cross it, just like you should make sure that what you want to do is fine to do before you actually do it.) Now Vermouth says that if you are to cautious - if you strike the bridge too hard or too often - then you might not be fine either - the bridge could break.
In my opinion Vermouth is saying Gin should not be too careful because that's no good either.. She might also be referring to the boss but I don't think that's likely.
I hope next week's file continues this storyline because we still don't know who left the message saying "This place is dangerous..." and whether or not Jodie, Camel and the BO see each other. That's probable since BO agents are spread throughout the entire store...
I can see what you mean, but if the saying means that he's a cautious person, then a stone bridge makes more sense. Any normal person test a rickety rope bridge's strength, but only a truly cautious person would bother doing so to a stone bridge, as normal people would just assume a stone bridge is safe anyway.sstimson wrote:I am not questioning your translation. But I do have a question.googleearth wrote: I didn't really find that hard to understand. In Japanese there is a expression that literally translates to "Strike the stone bridge, and then cross it", meaning you should be careful. (To me it makes sense, you should make sure the bridge works properly before you cross it, just like you should make sure that what you want to do is fine to do before you actually do it.) Now Vermouth says that if you are to cautious - if you strike the bridge too hard or too often - then you might not be fine either - the bridge could break.
In my opinion Vermouth is saying Gin should not be too careful because that's no good either.. She might also be referring to the boss but I don't think that's likely.
I hope next week's file continues this storyline because we still don't know who left the message saying "This place is dangerous..." and whether or not Jodie, Camel and the BO see each other. That's probable since BO agents are spread throughout the entire store...
Normally a stone bridge is safe and will be no trouble to cross.
But
On the other hand a Rope bridge can be a very scary experience. It is common in some movies to see these kind of bridges destroyed by the rope being cut and too much weight being on the bridge. Movie 11 Had a sign hint about too much weight on a rope bridge.
All I am saying is your quote to me at any way seems to make more sense using a rope bridge then a stone bridge.
I find your ambiguity disturbing!marioguy wrote: You sound extremely confident that you're right. I find your surplus of faith disturbing.
What exactly are you saying I am overconfident about?iunno, I sorta think he just wanted to make a star wars referenceChekhov MacGuffin wrote:I find your ambiguity disturbing!marioguy wrote: You sound extremely confident that you're right. I find your surplus of faith disturbing.
If you are talking about Okiya being the real Akai and scar Akai being Bourbon, I have very good reasons to be extremely confident; go to the bottom of this page and start reading. Which reminds me I need to update it to reflect the latest chapters...
I read all that your wrote. You have some good points. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they are the same person. Gosho might be pulling off another Vermouth.Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:I find your ambiguity disturbing!marioguy wrote: You sound extremely confident that you're right. I find your surplus of faith disturbing.
If you are talking about Okiya being the real Akai and scar Akai being Bourbon, I have very good reasons to be extremely confident; go to the bottom of this page and start reading. Which reminds me I need to update it to reflect the latest chapters...
True, you can't rule out the possibility that Okiya is Bourbon until Gosho decides to reveal the truth.marioguy wrote: I read all that your wrote. You have some good points. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they are the same person. Gosho might be pulling off another Vermouth.
Conan knew Okiya's identity from the beginning, hence Conan knowing where Okiya lived and letting Okiya borrow his house. Conan might be surprised that Okiya has turned up at the department store where Jodie was looking for scar-Akai because it means Subaru has likely been shadowing Jodie and possibly also scar-Akai which might be dangerous.marioguy wrote: I do however wonder why Conan was surprised that Akai at the mall. That means he never thought that Okiya and Akai were the same person. If he thought they were, why would Conan desperately help him escape?
True, it's not a convincing argument, but the animators have been good about sticking to the script for quite a while now. I assume that Gosho communicates with the animators to make sure they keep the details correct because it would be easy to accidentally mess something crucial up if they weren't paying attention closely enough.marioguy wrote: Even though there's no way that Okiya is actually Kaito. I have to point out that your argument against it is faulty. The anime isn't not run by Gosho. Hence why episode 5 and 13 created plot holes. Since the men on the train were just some random thugs. Conan didn't learn Gin and Vodka's names. Akemi had to come back in 129 to be properly killed.
