The Truth About the Drug

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kirite wrote: A note about Gin is that despite being high up in the food chain in the B.O. he doesn't seem to know very much.  At least he doesn't appear to know very much.
You know that might be why he is where he is.
He knows all but acts and says nothing. If only the walls or his car could talk.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: What I can remember:

Haibara said that she tested the drug on rats, and that one rat shrank instead. Not sure if she said that the other rats died or not.
the rats became babies.
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Shuuichi Akai wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: What I can remember:

Haibara said that she tested the drug on rats, and that one rat shrank instead. Not sure if she said that the other rats died or not.
the rats became babies.
One shrank, I don't think she told what happend to the others, but *points at name* I might be wrong.
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Shuuichi Akai wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: What I can remember:

Haibara said that she tested the drug on rats, and that one rat shrank instead. Not sure if she said that the other rats died or not.
the rats became babies.
I thnk they died.
Otherwise Gin wouldn't have used the drug to kill Shinichi.
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I thnk they died.
Otherwise Gin wouldn't have used the drug to kill Shinichi.
Shinichi is lucky that the serial killer escaped the black organization before the poison was being tested on him. Gin would know that that poison ca't kill and will use another way of disposing of Shinichi.
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Shuuichi Akai wrote:

I thnk they died.
Otherwise Gin wouldn't have used the drug to kill Shinichi.
Shinichi is lucky that the serial killer escaped the black organization before the poison was being tested on him. Gin would know that that poison ca't kill and will use another way of disposing of Shinichi.
But it's unknown if it always makes people younger, so that might not be true.
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I don't know if it has already been stated but when conan found out about habaira she told him that he was the only one who wasn't confirmed dead. so this would mean that other people where poisoned and confirmed dead.
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Xcommando wrote: I don't know if it has already been stated but when conan found out about habaira she told him that he was the only one who wasn't confirmed dead. so this would mean that other people where poisoned and confirmed dead.
There is also a possibility that the victims were also found by the police(like shinichi) and was sent to the orphanage...
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Shuuichi Akai wrote:
Xcommando wrote: I don't know if it has already been stated but when conan found out about habaira she told him that he was the only one who wasn't confirmed dead. so this would mean that other people where poisoned and confirmed dead.
There is also a possibility that the victims were also found by the police(like shinichi) and was sent to the orphanage...
I assumed "confirmed dead" meant that The BO knew for a fact the victims were a cooling body somewhere. All the victims on that list (besides Shinichi) have "dead" (æ­»ã
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Shuuichi Akai wrote:
Xcommando wrote: I don't know if it has already been stated but when conan found out about habaira she told him that he was the only one who wasn't confirmed dead. so this would mean that other people where poisoned and confirmed dead.
There is also a possibility that the victims were also found by the police(like shinichi) and was sent to the orphanage...
I assumed "confirmed dead" meant that The BO knew for a fact the victims were a cooling body somewhere. All the victims on that list (besides Shinichi) have "dead" (æ­»ã
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A certain number of times considering the list, assuming Ai said the truth when she mentioned it but I seems logical as she wouldn't have noticed Shinichi's case if he was the only one before her to have actually taken the drug.  
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Wakarimashita wrote: A certain number of times considering the list, assuming Ai said the truth when she mentioned it but I seems logical as she wouldn't have noticed Shinichi's case if he was the only one before her to have actually taken the drug. 
If She is telling the truth, But she is known to lie and for her own reason very possible could be lying there when she tell about the "LIST" In other words the list does not exist, though I am sure she was watching Shinichi house to see when the time was right to make an appearance.
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sstimson wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote: A certain number of times considering the list, assuming Ai said the truth when she mentioned it but I seems logical as she wouldn't have noticed Shinichi's case if he was the only one before her to have actually taken the drug. 
If She is telling the truth, But she is known to lie and for her own reason very possible could be lying there when she tell about the "LIST" In other words the list does not exist, though I am sure she was watching Shinichi house to see when the time was right to make an appearance.
If the list doesn't exist, why would she have been so intrigued by Shinichi in the first place ?
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Wakarimashita wrote:
sstimson wrote:
Wakarimashita wrote: A certain number of times considering the list, assuming Ai said the truth when she mentioned it but I seems logical as she wouldn't have noticed Shinichi's case if he was the only one before her to have actually taken the drug. 
If She is telling the truth, But she is known to lie and for her own reason very possible could be lying there when she tell about the "LIST" In other words the list does not exist, though I am sure she was watching Shinichi house to see when the time was right to make an appearance.
If the list doesn't exist, why would she have been so intrigued by Shinichi in the first place ?
sstimson has a theory on which you can read here: http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?p=66415#p66415
Very basically: Ai lies all the time, Shinichi is a guinea pig and BO knows everything about him being Conan.
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sstimson wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Shuuichi Akai wrote:
Xcommando wrote: I don't know if it has already been stated but when conan found out about habaira she told him that he was the only one who wasn't confirmed dead. so this would mean that other people where poisoned and confirmed dead.
There is also a possibility that the victims were also found by the police(like shinichi) and was sent to the orphanage...
I assumed "confirmed dead" meant that The BO knew for a fact the victims were a cooling body somewhere. All the victims on that list (besides Shinichi) have "dead" (æ­»ã
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