Akai (SPOILERS)

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Is Akai really died?

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Alright, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but....

Does anyone else think Akai purposely left Calvados a gun with which to shoot himself?
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It seems strange to me that someone as thorough as he is would miss something like that.
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Commi-Ninja wrote: Alright, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but....
Does anyone else think Akai purposely left Calvados a gun with which to shoot himself?
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It seems strange to me that someone as thorough as he is would miss something like that.
It was sorta kinda talked about here and here, but it wasn't much.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Commi-Ninja wrote: Alright, I don't know if this has been discussed before, but....
Does anyone else think Akai purposely left Calvados a gun with which to shoot himself?
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It seems strange to me that someone as thorough as he is would miss something like that.
It was sorta kinda talked about here and here, but it wasn't much.
Ah, okay, thank you.
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Akai would not have a reason to kill Calvados, because Calvados sure had information about the BO.
Or.... Akai had the same informations. He was Gins Partner, da high-ranked Member. But still he has little infos about the enemy. At times he came with clues or withnesses like that vagrant, who see Kir shoots her father.
Then Bourbon. Conan was shocked as the Detective Boys tells him about the second Akai. Why didnt Akai told him about Bourbon and his past with him?
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Two options. Maybe he did and Conan guessed that the scar!Akai is Bourbon. That's why he was so freaked out. On the other hand, Akai is pretty secretive. I doubt he would tell a 7 year old boy about one of his biggest enemies.
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He might simply have been more focused on getting down to help Jodie, Conan and Ai, so he didn't completely search Calvados.
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My opinion is that Akai is still alive and is pretending to be okiya sabaru and scar akai is borboun who is trying to lure the the real akai out.
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kentasaiba wrote: Akai would not have a reason to kill Calvados, because Calvados sure had information about the BO.
Or.... Akai had the same informations. He was Gins Partner, da high-ranked Member. But still he has little infos about the enemy. At times he came with clues or withnesses like that vagrant, who see Kir shoots her father.
Then Bourbon. Conan was shocked as the Detective Boys tells him about the second Akai. Why didnt Akai told him about Bourbon and his past with him?
nah he was never Gin's partner. Gin once had the intention of calling him to work for him, but Camel blew it all up :|
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even if he would be i wouldn't accept it! i'd look everywhere for him! o.O
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Cider wrote:
kentasaiba wrote: Akai would not have a reason to kill Calvados, because Calvados sure had information about the BO.
Or.... Akai had the same informations. He was Gins Partner, da high-ranked Member. But still he has little infos about the enemy. At times he came with clues or withnesses like that vagrant, who see Kir shoots her father.
Then Bourbon. Conan was shocked as the Detective Boys tells him about the second Akai. Why didnt Akai told him about Bourbon and his past with him?
nah he was never Gin's partner. Gin once had the intention of calling him to work for him, but Camel blew it all up :|
Really? I was under the impression that they were partnered up while Akai was Rye, and the screw-up with Camel happened after they'd started working together. (Although now that I think about it, I can't remember why I thought that.)
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pofa wrote:
Cider wrote: nah he was never Gin's partner. Gin once had the intention of calling him to work for him, but Camel blew it all up :|
Really? I was under the impression that they were partnered up while Akai was Rye, and the screw-up with Camel happened after they'd started working together. (Although now that I think about it, I can't remember why I thought that.)
It's never really clarified if Akai actually worked with Gin before directly, but it seems unlikely they had any extended contact given that Akai had just been given his codename and was going to meet Gin to work under him. If the org made preparations like sending in a scout/whoever that old dude was ahead of time, it seems more like a first time meeting rather than a re-meeting up. Kir didn't have to go through checks of that level before her mission.
I guess what induces the false feeling that Gin and Akai had worked together frequently is the fact they have personal antipathy for one another that people who don't know each other well shouldn't have. We know Akai survived multiple attempts on his life, so maybe the rivalry developed when they tried to take each other out during the two (three?) years after the FBI mission failed? (Assuming they tried to take each other out after the fact...)
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: It's never really clarified if Akai actually worked with Gin before directly, but it seems unlikely they had any extended contact given that Akai had just been given his codename and was going to meet Gin to work under him. If the org made preparations like sending in a scout/whoever that old dude was ahead of time, it seems more like a first time meeting rather than a re-meeting up. Kir didn't have to go through checks of that level before her mission.
I guess what induces the false feeling that Gin and Akai had worked together frequently is the fact they have personal antipathy for one another that people who don't know each other well shouldn't have. We know Akai survived multiple attempts on his life so maybe the rivalry developed when they tried to take each other out during the two (three?) years after the FBI mission failed? (Assuming they tried to take each other out after the fact...)
I thought that he said he worked his way up to becoming Gin's partner, and then worked alongside Gin? Or was that anime only? I forget...

(I accidentally messed up you comment by hitting modify instead of reply. >.< If I didn't put it back together right, please change it..., Chek)
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I thought that he said he worked his way up to becoming Gin's partner, and then worked alongside Gin? Or was that anime only? I forget...
if my memory serves me right, he was just about to be promoted to work alongside in when agent camel did the 'mistake'.
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soratothamax wrote: I thought that he said he worked his way up to becoming Gin's partner, and then worked alongside Gin? Or was that anime only? I forget...
I don't think Akai ever said that he worked alongside Gin in the anime, although he did say he had worked his way up to a codename and partner level.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
soratothamax wrote: I thought that he said he worked his way up to becoming Gin's partner, and then worked alongside Gin? Or was that anime only? I forget...
I don't think Akai ever said that he worked alongside Gin in the anime, although he did say he had worked his way up to a codename and partner level.
I think his cover blew when he was about to work with gin.
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