Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby AgOkami » August 30th, 2018, 10:18 am

I've been stalking these forums for years, and totally forgot I have a ~10 year old account.

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Is this the first time it's confirmed Kid knows Conan's identity? I've always headcannoned that he does, but pretty sure it wasn't confirmed until now.

Don't remember if Kid has done different accents before. If he can, I guess he'll ruin Heiji's day by disguising as Kazuha.


EDIT:
Adding a comment on a reaction some have reacted to in 1018:
Spoiler:
Looks like Kid immediately took the woman's side. I'm guessing Kid's got a lot of info about this pearl that we don't yet. Maybe when we read his thought "So that's how it is...", his slightly more detailed thought would be "Now that piece of info makes sense."
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby MeiTanteixX » August 30th, 2018, 1:48 pm

AgOkami wrote:I've been stalking these forums for years, and totally forgot I have a ~10 year old account.

Spoiler:
Is this the first time it's confirmed Kid knows Conan's identity? I've always headcannoned that he does, but pretty sure it wasn't confirmed until now.

Don't remember if Kid has done different accents before. If he can, I guess he'll ruin Heiji's day by disguising as Kazuha.
It is...
what's more problematic is that it's not the only M3 reference.
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby kentasaiba » August 30th, 2018, 3:05 pm

Well, we already have Ayanokoji, Kazami and others, it's not the first time a Mangaka refers to the movies for his work.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby MeiTanteixX » August 30th, 2018, 8:00 pm

kentasaiba wrote:Well, we already have Ayanokoji, Kazami and others, it's not the first time a Mangaka refers to the movies for his work.
They are characters... not movie stories.
DC's Awesome Qoutes:
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Bourbon:''A child's curiosity and a detective's spirit of inquiry do have much in common''
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Vermouth:''A secret makes a woman, woman''
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Mary/Gin:''It's like encountering a demon in the darkness...''
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''

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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby blackmoon » August 31st, 2018, 3:58 am

Kor wrote:So this theory hasn't been posted here yet, but it has circulated around. Will put it in a spoiler tag just in case:

Spoiler:
In the last several months, Gosho has been slowly revealing Scotch's real name via his Animal Crossing messages.

Pic 2: "Scotch's name is XXXX HIROMITSU"


Back in June he revealed his given name.

Pic 1: "... "Tell me Scotch's surname"...->"
Pic 2: "There are many questions of that kind so (laughs)->"
Pic 3: "Here's a hint. "One of the kana on his first name->"
Pic 4: "..."is included on his surname!"..."


Then in July he told us one kana from the given name is also in the surname (which is 4 kanas long).

Initially, revealing Scotch's name may seem like a rather trivial thing cause the dude's already dead so who even cares, but with the last hint, it did seem like Gosho's (sadly) setting up something... that Scotch is maybe related to some other already existing character. There aren't that many DC characters with XXXX surnames that contain one of the kanas in Hiromitsu. You have Tsuburaya Mitsuhiko, Morofushi Takaaki and possibly one or two others. We seemingly got an answer, however, when deco2289 from the cbox posted this link that showed us Koumei and Scotch have extremely similar looking eyes https://twitter.com/suityo0/status/1021391204288638976

So now with Koumei randomly showing up in a Kid case, after Gosho set up Scotch's real name for months, this might be where we're going with this (as in, Scotch and Koumei being related).


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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby Uchiha Shadow » September 8th, 2018, 6:43 am

Wow interesting stuff going on with that Koumei theory.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby Hanfoi » September 8th, 2018, 6:35 pm

koumei is one of the very few characters that still hasn't met Haibara.
He was suspected to be Rum, and now he is potentially getting involved with Scotch's case.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby blackmoon » September 8th, 2018, 10:39 pm

anyone read file 1019 yet? just had this hilarious thought of the possibility of heiji ending up confessing to and kissing kaito kid (disguised as kazuha) instead of the 'real' kazuha... :P
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby AgOkami » September 9th, 2018, 11:48 am

blackmoon wrote:anyone read file 1019 yet? just had this hilarious thought of the possibility of heiji ending up confessing to and kissing kaito kid (disguised as kazuha) instead of the 'real' kazuha... :P


Spoiler:
As expected, he dressed up as Kazuha. The way he did it though, I'm surprised Conan didn't see through it before it even happened. Or he did, and is just letting Heiji really know how good Kid is.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » September 12th, 2018, 7:45 am

1,020 is out and fully translated.

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And with it out, we can confirm—at least 99.9% confirm—that Scotch is Taka’aki’s/Koumei’s brother, thus making his real name Hiromitsu Morofushi.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby Kor » September 13th, 2018, 5:38 am

Some spoilers from chapter 1021:
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Inpector Morofushi - Hiromitsu relation confirmed.
Kabedon fails because Ran stops it (but doesn't expose Kid).
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » September 14th, 2018, 12:40 am

More 1,021 spoilers (pics are now out—very low quality ones, though):
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Kaitō is about to nab the Fairy’s Lip, only to be surrounded by police led by Taka’aki/Koumei—Kaitō then uses the ol’ flash bomb trick and escapes.

We see Wataru and Miwako meet with Taka’aki/Koumei and give him Hiromitsu’s/Scotch’s phone, and we see a panel of Hiromitsu with Rei, Jinpei Matsuda, Kenji Hagiwara, and Wataru Date during their police academy days, as well as a panel of Rei and Hiromitsu as kids.


My understanding is that there will now be a break for at least 3 weeks—we can expect 1,022 spoiler pics, at the earliest, on October 11th–12th.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby Kor » September 15th, 2018, 12:15 am

Recent leaks revealed that the break will be longer (way longer) than previously thought. Apparently there will be a 9 weeks break after the next chapter. 1022 is said to be released on November 28 (issue #53).

This means that in 2018 we'll end up with less than 20 chapters released overall.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby Uchiha Shadow » September 15th, 2018, 5:47 am

Holy shit, I really am getting scared for Gosho, this is Togashi territory right there.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,018-1021

Postby DCUniverseAficionado » September 15th, 2018, 7:23 am

Uchiha Shadow wrote:Holy shit, I really am getting scared for Gosho, this is Togashi territory right there.


This 9 week break is just over half as long as the 16 week break between 1,008 and 1,009—it’s actually not the worst we’ve gotten, this year.

These kinds of breaks are meant to prevent his health from deteriorating—better 5 cases per year than the alternative. That comparatively limited amount of cases compared to prior years will be made up for by the increase in development/pacing we’ve gotten since we crossed the quadruple digit threshold.

And how long are the breaks taken by Mr. Hunter x Hunter? Are they 9-16 weeks, as well?
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
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