Xcommando's BO boss theory.

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Why would Ai's dad, if BO boss, kill her daughter Akemi?
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conia wrote: Why would Ai's dad, if BO boss, kill her daughter Akemi?
He might if he was completely cold blooded, but why would someone that dark marry someone who is apparently, as Conan described, an angelic person. This is part of the reason I think the boss is someone else. I personally favor a relative of Kogoro's but I have no evidence other than fact that it is mysterious relatives of Kogoro have never been mentioned ever in contrast to other people's backgrounds being elucidated quite often. Edit: and the Mouri/Moriarty pun.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
conia wrote: Why would Ai's dad, if BO boss, kill her daughter Akemi?
He might if he was completely cold blooded, but why would someone that dark marry someone who is apparently, as Conan described, an angelic person.
Exactly. Even if Gin killed her, he would have make the boss go mad, and even Gin can't do that... Otherwise Vermouth would be dead.
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conia wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
conia wrote: Why would Ai's dad, if BO boss, kill her daughter Akemi?
He might if he was completely cold blooded, but why would someone that dark marry someone who is apparently, as Conan described, an angelic person.
Exactly. Even if Gin killed her, he would have make the boss go mad, and even Gin can't do that... Otherwise Vermouth would be dead.
Even though he's threatened her in a way that almost anyone would believe he's 100 percent serious, I doubt he would kill anyone so valuable to the Organization.
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But he is willing to kill Sherry,another important member. You're right: Gin won't kill an important member just because he doesn't like it, but he will kill without hesitation a traitor.
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I was thinking he didn't want Akemi dead but gin killed her. He probably didn't do anything about it because he believed it would seem like he had some sort of relationship to Akemi, And he doesn't want them to find out his identity.
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Xcommando wrote: I was thinking he didn't want Akemi dead but gin killed her. He probably didn't do anything about it because he believed it would seem like he had some sort of relationship to Akemi, And he doesn't want them to find out his identity.
Well, Akemi was a traitor afterall right?
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xGinx wrote:
Xcommando wrote: I was thinking he didn't want Akemi dead but gin killed her. He probably didn't do anything about it because he believed it would seem like he had some sort of relationship to Akemi, And he doesn't want them to find out his identity.
Well, Akemi was a traitor afterall right?

If the boss was her Dad he could have planed to actualy let her go but then she started argueing with gin and got killed.
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Xcommando wrote: I was thinking he didn't want Akemi dead but gin killed her. He probably didn't do anything about it because he believed it would seem like he had some sort of relationship to Akemi, And he doesn't want them to find out his identity.
Well, Akemi was a traitor afterall right?
If the boss was her Dad he could have planed to actualy let her go but then she started argueing with gin and got killed.
I don't think the argument with Gin was what got her killed. Gin planned to kill her in the first place under orders. It's pretty clear from the context. Gin would have got in trouble if he crossed the boss. Based on what Shiho and the FBI explained, the boss clearly viewed Akemi as a liability because of her relationship to Akai which may have allowed her to be contacted by him, but unfortunately, Shiho was close to Akemi and killing Akemi without a good reason might cause Sherry to rebel (and it did). The Org came up with the bank heist plan with the idea Akemi would fail and thus be killed by the org for an acceptable reason, cleanly negating the problem; however Akemi succeeded and was killed for no reason anyway, and Shiho rebelled.
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
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Xcommando wrote: I was thinking he didn't want Akemi dead but gin killed her. He probably didn't do anything about it because he believed it would seem like he had some sort of relationship to Akemi, And he doesn't want them to find out his identity.
Well, Akemi was a traitor afterall right?
If the boss was her Dad he could have planed to actualy let her go but then she started argueing with gin and got killed.
I don't think the argument with Gin was what got her killed. Gin planned to kill her in the first place under orders. It's pretty clear from the context. Gin would have got in trouble if he crossed the boss. Based on what Shiho and the FBI explained, the boss clearly viewed Akemi as a liability because of her relationship to Akai which may have allowed her to be contacted by him, but unfortunately, Shiho was close to Akemi and killing Akemi without a good reason might cause Sherry to rebel (and it did). The Org came up with the bank heist plan with the idea Akemi would fail and thus be killed by the org for an acceptable reason, cleanly negating the problem; however Akemi succeeded and was killed for no reason anyway, and Shiho rebelled.
all right then well go with the dad being a cruel in senseless killer. :P
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Xcommando wrote: Yeah but she was carried away in a body bag at the end of the episode preventing her being alive as the medics would have checked. The one about her being disguised is impossible because when she was telling Conan about the organization she would have mentioned it, why tell him about the org and not that she was disguised?
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That was just for the lolz. As I already mentionned, it was just one of my many crazy-but-I-wish-they-were-true theories.
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Girl19 wrote:
Xcommando wrote: Yeah but she was carried away in a body bag at the end of the episode preventing her being alive as the medics would have checked. The one about her being disguised is impossible because when she was telling Conan about the organization she would have mentioned it, why tell him about the org and not that she was disguised?
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That was just for the lolz. As I already mentionned, it was just one of my many crazy-but-I-wish-they-were-true theories.
Akai looks pretty dead too.
And confronting Gin(& Vodka) without a bulletproof vest... suicide much?
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Akai looks pretty dead too.
And confronting Gin(& Vodka) without a bulletproof vest... suicide much?
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Kleene Onigiri wrote: Akai looks pretty dead too.
And confronting Gin(& Vodka) without a bulletproof vest... suicide much?
Akai's situation was different. He was trying to look as dead as possible for the camera ♥
Also if the org wanted you dead, they would try hard to find a way to kill you eventually as Sherry can attest to. I don't think wearing a bullet proof jacket would have stopped Gin and Vodka from finishing what they intended to do. Akai demonstrated the ability to tell if someone was wearing a bulletproof jacket by watching how they move. I am going to assume Gin can do the same. Gin would have probably aimed for her head in that situation assuming he is a decent shot. If things went bad, in a pinch Gin could have dropped the make-it-look-like-a-suicide ploy for a straight up homicide without significant evidence.
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Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Girl19 wrote:
Xcommando wrote: Yeah but she was carried away in a body bag at the end of the episode preventing her being alive as the medics would have checked. The one about her being disguised is impossible because when she was telling Conan about the organization she would have mentioned it, why tell him about the org and not that she was disguised?
Sakina wrote: I dunno... she looks pretty dead to me.  
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That was just for the lolz. As I already mentionned, it was just one of my many crazy-but-I-wish-they-were-true theories.
Akai looks pretty dead too.
And confronting Gin(& Vodka) without a bulletproof vest... suicide much?
For all we know, he did have a bullet proof vest on.  Things like blood can be faked by putting a bag of pigs blood underneath your shirt.  Shooting that will make it look like you're bleeding.  It doesn't protect you from a headshot though. 
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