Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 1,061-1066

[Unlucky Devil]

After looking at the spoiler pics, I noticed a few minor differences between the anonymous Rum page and the Wakita page.
1. While the drivers in both the cars have a similar haircut, there is a minute chance they are different people. Which, yeah, is not big. But,...
2. Look at the placement of Rum and Wakita. Rum is towards the rightmost end of the car's backseat. You can clearly see the central spine of the car's seat. But Wakita is bang in the centre of the car.
3. The seat colours are different. The front seat in the Rum panel is a single seat sewn in the centre, but the Wakita one is two clearly demarcated separate cushions.
4. Wakita panel - look above the head of the driver, you can see a part of the window. But, the car in Rum panel seems to have a section in the back.
5. The colour of the seats is different, though barely so.

The panel differences are subtle, but they are different which means we are being misled classic Gosho style. I say this smells like a red herring. And Wakita should instead be confirmed as NOT RUM.

Additionally, there is no indication to whether the right eye that the silhouette has visible is a fake eye or a real one. Wakita is the only one with a bandage over the left eye, yes, but amongst the other two, Kuroda wears a shadow glass over his right eye. That plus the silly name thing Gin said should pretty much rule him out.
... which means Rumi is the true Rum then?? That's not at all a theory I want to get behind, what with Gosho practically framing Rumi with the farm case and Bourbon's suspicion. But it can probably make sense if one takes into perspective how Jodie messing up the characters for the messsage was shown to be because she learnt it from a teacher. Gosho did seem to really go into the explanation for that one.
Rum's phone in the spoilers shows the phone is white in colour, not black. Both Kuroda and Wakita have been shown to own black phones in chapter 1005. But, Rumi's phone has been shown to be white in chapter 1052 (when she drops it into a bucket)
I think the Rum = Rumi is possibly what I'm able to infer, even though I wanted to rule her out right after Bourbon's increasing suspicions on her during 1051-1054.

Disclaimer: the next part is speculation.
Remember the end of the Snowy Mountain case, and how Kuroda asked for a message to be delivered? It could have been a signal to Wakita (real identity unknown) that he could come to Kuroda for assistance. The car we see him get out of isn't a BO car, but Kuroda's. There was some exchange of information between Kuroda and Wakita.

I'll keep updating my post as I observe more pieces of information XD

I'd really like to hear others' views on this too. Am I making sense?

No the left eye of the shadow is the fake eye . Wakita’s left eye in his true appearance is clear white

He is Rum. The arc will continue with us just finding out how his left eye got messed up is the first place. Which was probably because of Akai’s father who is in disguise as Koruda harming him with Jeet Kun Do. We will get a setup of Akais father being Rums enemy the same way Gin and Akai are enemies And Jodi hates Vermouth

Wakitas true appearance does have the menacing look the other BO members have. It’s no red herring. And Rum definitely isn’t Rumi, she was Kohji’s lover . He is also the one who hasn’t met Haibara

That's just one point, and I did say that part is an assumption that even I'm not ready to believe. However, I am 90% positive Wakita isn't Rum. If Wakita was revealed to be interacting with Gin in person in any of the frames, I'd gladly concede. But, continuation of a random call over two different panels with different details, I'm not inclined to buy

[alphajjc]

After looking at the spoiler pics, I noticed a few minor differences between the anonymous Rum page and the Wakita page.
1. While the drivers in both the cars have a similar haircut, there is a minute chance they are different people. Which, yeah, is not big. But,...
2. Look at the placement of Rum and Wakita. Rum is towards the rightmost end of the car's backseat. You can clearly see the central spine of the car's seat. But Wakita is bang in the centre of the car.
3. The seat colours are different. The front seat in the Rum panel is a single seat sewn in the centre, but the Wakita one is two clearly demarcated separate cushions.
4. Wakita panel - look above the head of the driver, you can see a part of the window. But, the car in Rum panel seems to have a section in the back.
5. The colour of the seats is different, though barely so.

The panel differences are subtle, but they are different which means we are being misled classic Gosho style. I say this smells like a red herring. And Wakita should instead be confirmed as NOT RUM.

Additionally, there is no indication to whether the right eye that the silhouette has visible is a fake eye or a real one. Wakita is the only one with a bandage over the left eye, yes, but amongst the other two, Kuroda wears a shadow glass over his right eye. That plus the silly name thing Gin said should pretty much rule him out.
... which means Rumi is the true Rum then?? That's not at all a theory I want to get behind, what with Gosho practically framing Rumi with the farm case and Bourbon's suspicion. But it can probably make sense if one takes into perspective how Jodie messing up the characters for the messsage was shown to be because she learnt it from a teacher. Gosho did seem to really go into the explanation for that one.
Rum's phone in the spoilers shows the phone is white in colour, not black. Both Kuroda and Wakita have been shown to own black phones in chapter 1005. But, Rumi's phone has been shown to be white in chapter 1052 (when she drops it into a bucket)
I think the Rum = Rumi is possibly what I'm able to infer, even though I wanted to rule her out right after Bourbon's increasing suspicions on her during 1051-1054.

Disclaimer: the next part is speculation.
Remember the end of the Snowy Mountain case, and how Kuroda asked for a message to be delivered? It could have been a signal to Wakita (real identity unknown) that he could come to Kuroda for assistance. The car we see him get out of isn't a BO car, but Kuroda's. There was some exchange of information between Kuroda and Wakita.

I'll keep updating my post as I observe more pieces of information XD

I'd really like to hear others' views on this too. Am I making sense?

No the left eye of the shadow is the fake eye . Wakita’s left eye in his true appearance is clear white

He is Rum. The arc will continue with us just finding out how his left eye got messed up is the first place. Which was probably because of Akai’s father who is in disguise as Koruda harming him with Jeet Kun Do. We will get a setup of Akais father being Rums enemy the same way Gin and Akai are enemies And Jodi hates Vermouth

Wakitas true appearance does have the menacing look the other BO members have. It’s no red herring. And Rum definitely isn’t Rumi, she was Kohji’s lover . He is also the one who hasn’t met Haibara

That's just one point, and I did say that part is an assumption that even I'm not ready to believe. However, I am 90% positive Wakita isn't Rum. If Wakita was revealed to be interacting with Gin in person in any of the frames, I'd gladly concede. But, continuation of a random call over two different panels with different details, I'm not inclined to buy

i do have to admit it is indeed very strange for Wakita/Rum to even be driven around by FBI or CIA agents whatever they are. Foreigners in particular.

do you still believe though that the picture we saw of the menacing looking bald old man is indeed Rum?? You just believe that the man we see in the car disguising himself as Wakita is Akai's father if i'm understanding correctly right?

So who do you think Koruda or possibly Chikara Katsumata.

Remember most likely there will be some connection that makes the antagonist a sworn enemy to the protoganist.

Such as Jodi having a deep rooted hatred towards Vermouth in the Vermouth arc(or in general) because 20 years ago she murdered Jodi's parents.

Akai having a deep rooted hatred towards Gin because Gin murdered Akemi Miyano who was Akai's girlfriend

so there has to be some type of history between Father Akai and Rum...one being that Rum probably gave APTX to Tsutomu's wife Mary and made her be in the state that she currently is in

[alphajjc]

Spoiler:

Hey all, wighing in. After seeing the exposed panels, it is most likely Rum=Wakita, and like mentioned above, the ID of Rum isn't the focus, rather the information to be delivered.

Yet, I do take it that it is a highly unlikely reveal of RUM. Who in fact, I would like to, as I previousy did, claim he is the fittest candidate for RUM. This revealation, is likely to be a red herring. I do understand that all pieces fall together, and I do take it to be fitting for Gosho to do so. Yet, I have doubt whether he would want to reveal RUM in such a way. The reason being, RUM would not make this grand mistake; to reveal his face to the two drivers, specially if he works like Vermouth/Bourbon, and is super cautious to mislead others by claiming false characteristics.

Hence, to suit theories; I rather see him in more of a guardian role, to everyone's surprise, the red herring of RUM, is actually none other than Tsutomo/Shuu's father. And his true role, explained by the foreign drivers, is CIA. it's been quite a while since they did not engage in BO affairs, not to forget about Ethan Hondo and his daughter. Yet it has been a long of time before any CIA had any move on BO, not in the investigation nor scouting areas.

Hence, we can assume, Tsutomo is actually Wakita. An undercover CIA agent, who is not supposed to be part of this world. His purpose was actually to investigate RUM.
His curiuous filled comment, matches his earlier saying to his wife.

To my mind, it seems like a surprise reveal, a clever move, something I would do myself as a writer. To simply throw in the most suitable candidate in such a drop reveal to twist the revealation. Hence, again it is not for Gosho to easily reveal such an important character.

Again with the revealed pictures, while I believe the BO has international reach. Wakita's drivers seem more American/Blonde, rather than Japanese. Why would RUM bring outside agents to drive him and reveal his true face to them. To me it would be easier, to have a close ethnic character to be on the sure side of knowing the streets and the language (as we can see Jodie made the grand mistake within the current case). The foreign agents, mostly Americans, and Wakita's ease to reveal his face to them, inclines me to think he is a CIA most fittingly to be Tsutomo. While the real RUM, is Kurdoa.

I may be superbly wrong, however, the leak is mysterious in it's way of releasing certain pictures. It may as well be illustrated by Gosho/leaked in a manner, to seamlessly fit panels to misdirect us. Rum could be at another place, and this is another character, I'd say CIA agent Tsutomo, who wants to investigate Camel.

I still cannot get over the fact that RUM reveals his true face to two foreign agents even if he trusts them. Furthermore, his left eye is white/no iris. For Rum to wear a prosthetic eye, he could wear a normal looking one. Why would he resort to a mere white fake eye.

The mention of the Pirate's Spirit, and the weak horse, they allude to a different outlook on the character. It is more than likely. That the Tsutomo CIA personna, may have died when he was revealed to BO and could endanger him/his family, so he killed his ID. And instead used a made up personna to inflitrate BO (Like Shuuichi). Hence creating the Wakita character.

I may be going overboard, yet the old guess of the old man turned half true. However, I'm going to write it anyways; the Daikoku building explosion, back in earlier chapters, when Conan was tipped by the killer about BO, and he raced to the cafe that just exploded. I believe that is the case, that prompted Wakita/Rum/Tsutomo, to take a notice at Kogoro who was the detective that solved the case.

I take it, that if it is as it is, that Wakita=Rum. We are going to dive into the BO, and Conan will somehow know from Rum more info about them. I understand Gosho's mindset and gracefuly accept the reveal as it is, for it wasn't that big of a surprise to me. Yet in the light that Gosho may be playing us, to entertain our frustration with a better twist. Is still a possible way to go.

Is it still far fetched, to say Rum=Wakita=Tsutomo, a character who has been induced into BO?

*** An amusing thought; IS it me, or Wakita's true appearance, is way too similar to Anokata/Karasuma's appearance, both have hooked nose, droppy eyes shape, thick neck, and somewhat a stout body. Could he be the deaged Anokata, hiding his ID by masquerading as his own second in command . Or is he a possible Karasuma family member, perhaps the son of Karasuma, cannot believe a 90+ super rich person not having at least a child .

its not just that with the physical looks its other things like the personality traits. both Rum and Karasuma have been described as extremely impatient. way back in the day i distinctly remember in the early detective conan when we had that case that spoke about Karasuma Renya and the mansion or whatever he was described asgreedy and impatient

karasuma supposedly being the richest man in Japan, Rum may be rich himself and is being driven around in a rolls royce by foreign americans like he has numerous means of wealth

even if there is a new boss now like people theorize, its too weird that Karasuma and his #2 are both very impatient, both the boss and his #2 have the same exact personality traits? something isn't right.

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

Iam very disappointed because almost all fans have been deceived that Wakita is Rum ,,,, but the undeniable fact that may soon be proven is Karasuma = RUM = Chikara Katsumata .

Wakita is considered to be Karasuma's assistant or Rum's assistant , so Yaiba hinted at Wakita's first case , when Wakita said villain leader’s assistant would appear tonight . This is a hint refering to Wakita is a close assistant to Karasuma and not Anokata's assistant .

I think Wakita is Jirokichi Suzuki younger brother because of the similarities between them , and this may explain Wakita's fortune and also the reason for his disguise ,,, Wakita can carry out several tasks and is also skilled at disguising so he is a very suitable assistant to Karasuma's requirements .

Among the hints that Wakita is an assistant to Karasuma are Chapters 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 :

The whole case is very similar to the case of Karasuma’s first appearance in Episode 219, where there are nine people , the time in the Mouri Kogoro watch is the same time that was in the Karasuma palace watch , the cyanide poison , the magic code and the abandoned place or palace .

Number 9 repeats a lot whenever Wakita appears ... one of my friends who know Japanese told me that 9 in kanji means Chikara .

For the current chapters , my interpretation is When Wakita discovered there was a trap set up by FBI agents , he told RUM directly , so RUM sent a message to Korn telling him to kill Rey / Akai and Camel . It seems that Rum chose a pseudonym for his assistant Wakita for his mission at the sushi restaurant. from favorite phrase "Time is money" .

The person who doubted Mouri Kogoro is Gin , so it's impossible to believe that Gin asked RUM to go to work at the restaurant and watch Mouri Kogoro .

[Kor]

Number 9 repeats a lot whenever Wakita appears ... one of my friends who know Japanese told me that 9 in kanji means Chikara .

It doesn't, because they're not the same kanji.

9 kanji: 九
Chikara kanji: 力

So either your friend is lying to you, or they don't know Japanese as much as they think they do.

[K_F_G_N_T]

The identity of Rum is not yet clear

Spoiler:

These are both right upper head views of the man besides the driver in 1066.


One has his ear visible during Rum Gin talk, where we are shown the silhouette.
While the other has his same ear hidden under his hairs when we are shown Wakita.

It is hard to discard this as artist error especially when whole file is about hair disguise first Camel, next bald Wakita. On top of this file being the big Rum reveal.

My speculation is that the man besides the driver is Rum while Wakita is his spy codenamed Highball. It could also be that that Rum alighted from the car or both cars are different. I just prefer the first one.

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

It doesn't, because they're not the same kanji.

9 kanji: 九
Chikara kanji: 力

So either your friend is lying to you, or they don't know Japanese as much as they think they do.

Now i search for this friend , but he seems to have closed his Twitter account , I know him from this site .

But why do you think number (9/nine) is repeated so often with every Wakita's appearance ?

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

My speculation is that the man besides the driver is Rum while Wakita is his spy codenamed Highball. It could also be that that Rum alighted from the car or both cars are different. I just prefer the first one.

I noticed that ,, I'd choose there are two different cars , the second choice

Also color of clothes of both men in front was different in both cars , and hair color of the driver in each car is different .

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

But why do you think number (9/nine) is repeated so often with every Wakita's appearance ?

outside of the snowy mountain case, where are you even seeing it?

[Kor]

People may not know or remember this, but after Amuro was revealed to be a spy, Fuji, Shadow and I asked a bunch of people in the cbox whether they thought there was more of a twist to it and Amuro wasn't actually a good guy. A bunch of people were initially in denial about that revelation, like a bunch of people will continue to be in denial about this new revelation.

But as a person who was also in denial for some time about some other solution ("Shuukichi can't be the middle brother, guys, Gosho's just trying to trick us! It can't be this f***ing simple!!!111!!"), my best advice is to just accept it and move on. I know this kind of thing may sound a bit condescending, but here's the harsh truth — it's a manga for kids, it'll never have the amount of mind-screw to fulfill some of the more out-there theories that would have to be applied for this Rum reveal to be undone. Gosho repeated the entire Bourbon formula, like he repeated other concepts, that's just the kind of writer he is. His entire Bourbon mysteries could be solved by knowing Gundam references, Rum could be solved because Time Is Money. The solutions in this manga have always been relatively simple. And any arguments like "no, Gosho can't be this obvious" or "Gosho's just trying to trick us" or "Gosho is smarter than this", these are, at the end of the day, projections and wishful thinking. I understand that there are those who may have wished for something more complicated considering this arc was about the "ZOMG NUMBER 2 OF THE ORG!!", but that's just your expectations that couldn't be met. And if you can't accept this because the theory you came up with is so much cooler and interesting and awesome than what we got, well, you were never promised the solution will be cool or interesting or awesome.
(And I'm not defending or condemning Gosho for anything in this post. This is strictly about how people choose to deal with the reveal.)

And I know this post may fall on deaf ears (of the relevant people) because "gosh, darn, Kor, you don't know for sure that the reveal won't be undone 2-20 years from now and Rum could still be Katsuma Matata!" but we do have over 25 years worth of manga to know how Gosho does things, and nowadays, when the release schedule is just 20 chapters a year, denying what was revealed isn't going to be a fun position to interact with the series.

Spoiler:

But sure, feel free to throw rocks at me if the reveal ever gets undone, if that's something you're willing to hold out for.

[Unlucky Devil]

After looking at the spoiler pics, I noticed a few minor differences between the anonymous Rum page and the Wakita page.
1. While the drivers in both the cars have a similar haircut, there is a minute chance they are different people. Which, yeah, is not big. But,...
2. Look at the placement of Rum and Wakita. Rum is towards the rightmost end of the car's backseat. You can clearly see the central spine of the car's seat. But Wakita is bang in the centre of the car.
3. The seat colours are different. The front seat in the Rum panel is a single seat sewn in the centre, but the Wakita one is two clearly demarcated separate cushions.
4. Wakita panel - look above the head of the driver, you can see a part of the window. But, the car in Rum panel seems to have a section in the back.
5. The colour of the seats is different, though barely so.

The panel differences are subtle, but they are different which means we are being misled classic Gosho style. I say this smells like a red herring. And Wakita should instead be confirmed as NOT RUM.

Additionally, there is no indication to whether the right eye that the silhouette has visible is a fake eye or a real one. Wakita is the only one with a bandage over the left eye, yes, but amongst the other two, Kuroda wears a shadow glass over his right eye. That plus the silly name thing Gin said should pretty much rule him out.
... which means Rumi is the true Rum then?? That's not at all a theory I want to get behind, what with Gosho practically framing Rumi with the farm case and Bourbon's suspicion. But it can probably make sense if one takes into perspective how Jodie messing up the characters for the messsage was shown to be because she learnt it from a teacher. Gosho did seem to really go into the explanation for that one.
Rum's phone in the spoilers shows the phone is white in colour, not black. Both Kuroda and Wakita have been shown to own black phones in chapter 1005. But, Rumi's phone has been shown to be white in chapter 1052 (when she drops it into a bucket)
I think the Rum = Rumi is possibly what I'm able to infer, even though I wanted to rule her out right after Bourbon's increasing suspicions on her during 1051-1054.

Disclaimer: the next part is speculation.
Remember the end of the Snowy Mountain case, and how Kuroda asked for a message to be delivered? It could have been a signal to Wakita (real identity unknown) that he could come to Kuroda for assistance. The car we see him get out of isn't a BO car, but Kuroda's. There was some exchange of information between Kuroda and Wakita.

I'll keep updating my post as I observe more pieces of information XD

I'd really like to hear others' views on this too. Am I making sense?

No the left eye of the shadow is the fake eye . Wakita’s left eye in his true appearance is clear white

He is Rum. The arc will continue with us just finding out how his left eye got messed up is the first place. Which was probably because of Akai’s father who is in disguise as Koruda harming him with Jeet Kun Do. We will get a setup of Akais father being Rums enemy the same way Gin and Akai are enemies And Jodi hates Vermouth

Wakitas true appearance does have the menacing look the other BO members have. It’s no red herring. And Rum definitely isn’t Rumi, she was Kohji’s lover . He is also the one who hasn’t met Haibara

That's just one point, and I did say that part is an assumption that even I'm not ready to believe. However, I am 90% positive Wakita isn't Rum. If Wakita was revealed to be interacting with Gin in person in any of the frames, I'd gladly concede. But, continuation of a random call over two different panels with different details, I'm not inclined to buy

i do have to admit it is indeed very strange for Wakita/Rum to even be driven around by FBI or CIA agents whatever they are. Foreigners in particular.

do you still believe though that the picture we saw of the menacing looking bald old man is indeed Rum?? You just believe that the man we see in the car disguising himself as Wakita is Akai's father if i'm understanding correctly right?

Yes, most probably it is Akai's father, who is dressing up as Wakita. It at least has to be someone connected to the CIA, or SIS. Because this arc is related to the Akai family, it most likely is Tsutomu.
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So who do you think Koruda or possibly Chikara Katsumata.
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I haven't ever really considered Rum to possibly be Chikara (I know there's a few on the forum who believe that). Rum is probably Rumi or Kuroda. Vodka only assumed Rum is male, Gin used gender neutral pronouns. So, it is still possibleit is either.
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Remember most likely there will be some connection that makes the antagonist a sworn enemy to the protoganist.

Such as Jodi having a deep rooted hatred towards Vermouth in the Vermouth arc(or in general) because 20 years ago she murdered Jodi's parents.

Akai having a deep rooted hatred towards Gin because Gin murdered Akemi Miyano who was Akai's girlfriend

so there has to be some type of history between Father Akai and Rum...one being that Rum probably gave APTX to Tsutomu's wife Mary and made her be in the state that she currently is in
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I agree with your points, one of the Rum suspects has to be a protagonist from a secret agency, one is Rum, and the third is someone who holds a grudge against Rum and an innocent bystander like Eisuke was. Until the recent chapter, I was inclined to believe Rumi is the third one, and I thought Wakita is Rum. Kuroda, in my opinion is less likely to be Rum, I don't think Rum has the patience it would take to infiltrate the PSB. Or the patience to let Bourbon be infiltrating the BO, especially that close to Vermouth, who is someone Rum seems to trust (with the disguise thingy she did for him)

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

I don’t think there is a reason if my conclusion is wrong , for me to stick to it, because this is just manga and everyone may mistake it once and hit another time , but clearly, this time I don’t see that it has been announced to say Wakita or anyone from three suspects is Rum .

All we found is two cars are used by different people , I think shade is RUM , while a Wakita is riding another different car , if there is someone who thinks it is just one car and the same people in both panels , I don't mind anyone expecting that, but all I saw after seeing the chapter in full after it was leaked is nothing has been announced yet . But my content is as follows :

1- We have Chikara, who appeared in the key hole in first volume of Arc Rum , and his eyes look different, so one of them may be artificial , he did not have an identification card even though he appeared more than once ,,, so I expect that his card will appear when The official announcement is made that it he is RUM , written on it : Chikara Katsumata , number 2 in the organization .

2- If Goshu does not want you to easily know the identity of Rum, then this Rum will be one of the most important people for Goshu to take all that time in revealing him and giving him that secrecy even among the members of the organization, so Goshu suffices to put down hints without showing any bad side of Chikara .

3- Rum's very first move in this arc , when he sent a message to Bourbon ,, do you know what happened in that same episode ? We knew that the founder of the organization was Karasuma Rynea, and the picture appeared which contain members of the organization, including Karasuma , but Rum did not appear even though we are in his arc .

4 - Wakasa spoke about Karasuma personally in Chapter 1051 and his traits refer to the same characteristics of Rum who moves through a group of people .

5 - The hints that I said completely refer to Karasuma case itself episode 219 , which is in Chapters 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 .

6- Everything in Chikara indicates that he is Karasuma , his name which means restoring power again .... change of order of letters of his name gives us the bright Karasuma , also the two hairs on his forehead represents a bird which is the crow .

7 - When Chikara appeared for the second time in Episodes 849-850, we know about the arc case, which is the killing of the shogi player Haneda Koji .

There are more hints that Karasuma is RUM but that I remember now ,,, Gosho always makes the members of the organization at first as normal people , but after revealing their identity, Gosho shows us their bad side ... So how do you expect what Gosho will do when he wants to show us the person who founded that black organization? He will appear like a very very normal person and won't make him appear much like Gosho does exactly now , by putting only hints .

Again , I don't know how it was officially announced that Wakita is RUM , and nothing has ever emerged to say or explain this. I watched the whole chapter and did not see anything indicating that except for two cars, one in which is RUM and in the other is Wakita ,, Wakita may be rich because he is from a rich family , I mean his wealth hasn't any relation with his position in the organization . But Wakita is not like what we heard about Rum in anything at all, even the only characteristic we know about Rum , which is the prosthetic eye .

[DCUniverseAficionado]

And I know this post may fall on deaf ears (of the relevant people) because "gosh, darn, Kor, you don't know for sure that the reveal won't be undone 2-20 years from now and Rum could still be Katsuma Matata!" but we do have over 25 years worth of manga to know how Gosho does things, and nowadays, when the release schedule is just 20 chapters a year, denying what was revealed isn't going to be a fun position to interact with the series.

Spoiler:

But sure, feel free to throw rocks at me if the reveal ever gets undone, if that's something you're willing to hold out for.

Of course, there's always the possibility (slim or otherwise) that this is but the first layer in a multi-layered reveal. I just don't think it's very likely.
As long as he doesn't pull the trigger on the big confrontation case with all the players he's set up, it could be argued that the setup is still ongoing, that Gosho is comfortable with keeping the series going for quite a while. But if we consider all the developments we've gotten the past 3 years, both for the Rum arc itself and the series overall, it's more likely the series is winding down:

• File 1,004–File 1,008: Shinichi and Ran become a couple

• File 1,008: Renya Karasuma is revealed to be the BO boss (at the very least, we can be sure he was the original BO boss)

• File 1,047–File 1,050: Reveal that Vermouth was behind Mary's de-aging/Reveal of why Masumi and Mary approached Shinichi/Conan

• File 1,066: Reveal that Kanenori Wakita is Rum

I think there have been many assumptions made because we don't have the entirety of 1,066 released. We have only images of a few individual panels, in regards to the reveal—so I suggest proponents of this reveal being a trick hold back until the full file comes out. The full file release will likely remove the many assumptions made about the figure in shadow and Kanenori being two separate people—assumptions that will maintain until the full file release removes the uncertainty. Plus, there's the text spoilers to consider:

"rum is wakita, it’s confirmed,
gin got a call from rum, and it was wakita who called”

- Gosho's first drawing of RUM in the file is as a silhouette without detail to the left eye
- All his orders so far have been in the car while he was heading to the restaurant
- We see Wakita put on fake hair (originally bald), fake teeth and mustache while accompanied by a body guard and driver.
- Wakita is extremely rich and his car is a Rolls Royce
- Last page, RUM exits his car and heads for the restaurant after he disguises as Wakita, and he looks at MOURI DETECTIVE AGENCY

There is no mention of two cars. And while people have talked all about the guy in the front passenger's seat, they seem to ignore that the driver is the same in both the panel with Rum in silhouette, and the panel with Kanenori.

Again , I don't know how it was officially announced that Wakita is RUM , and nothing has ever emerged to say or explain this.

Except the text spoilers and spoiler pics.

[Shinan-Kudogawa]

Spoiler:

Hey all, wighing in. After seeing the exposed panels, it is most likely Rum=Wakita, and like mentioned above, the ID of Rum isn't the focus, rather the information to be delivered.

Yet, I do take it that it is a highly unlikely reveal of RUM. Who in fact, I would like to, as I previousy did, claim he is the fittest candidate for RUM. This revealation, is likely to be a red herring. I do understand that all pieces fall together, and I do take it to be fitting for Gosho to do so. Yet, I have doubt whether he would want to reveal RUM in such a way. The reason being, RUM would not make this grand mistake; to reveal his face to the two drivers, specially if he works like Vermouth/Bourbon, and is super cautious to mislead others by claiming false characteristics.

Hence, to suit theories; I rather see him in more of a guardian role, to everyone's surprise, the red herring of RUM, is actually none other than Tsutomo/Shuu's father. And his true role, explained by the foreign drivers, is CIA. it's been quite a while since they did not engage in BO affairs, not to forget about Ethan Hondo and his daughter. Yet it has been a long of time before any CIA had any move on BO, not in the investigation nor scouting areas.

Hence, we can assume, Tsutomo is actually Wakita. An undercover CIA agent, who is not supposed to be part of this world. His purpose was actually to investigate RUM.
His curiuous filled comment, matches his earlier saying to his wife.

To my mind, it seems like a surprise reveal, a clever move, something I would do myself as a writer. To simply throw in the most suitable candidate in such a drop reveal to twist the revealation. Hence, again it is not for Gosho to easily reveal such an important character.

Again with the revealed pictures, while I believe the BO has international reach. Wakita's drivers seem more American/Blonde, rather than Japanese. Why would RUM bring outside agents to drive him and reveal his true face to them. To me it would be easier, to have a close ethnic character to be on the sure side of knowing the streets and the language (as we can see Jodie made the grand mistake within the current case). The foreign agents, mostly Americans, and Wakita's ease to reveal his face to them, inclines me to think he is a CIA most fittingly to be Tsutomo. While the real RUM, is Kurdoa.

I may be superbly wrong, however, the leak is mysterious in it's way of releasing certain pictures. It may as well be illustrated by Gosho/leaked in a manner, to seamlessly fit panels to misdirect us. Rum could be at another place, and this is another character, I'd say CIA agent Tsutomo, who wants to investigate Camel.

I still cannot get over the fact that RUM reveals his true face to two foreign agents even if he trusts them. Furthermore, his left eye is white/no iris. For Rum to wear a prosthetic eye, he could wear a normal looking one. Why would he resort to a mere white fake eye.

The mention of the Pirate's Spirit, and the weak horse, they allude to a different outlook on the character. It is more than likely. That the Tsutomo CIA personna, may have died when he was revealed to BO and could endanger him/his family, so he killed his ID. And instead used a made up personna to inflitrate BO (Like Shuuichi). Hence creating the Wakita character.

I may be going overboard, yet the old guess of the old man turned half true. However, I'm going to write it anyways; the Daikoku building explosion, back in earlier chapters, when Conan was tipped by the killer about BO, and he raced to the cafe that just exploded. I believe that is the case, that prompted Wakita/Rum/Tsutomo, to take a notice at Kogoro who was the detective that solved the case.

I take it, that if it is as it is, that Wakita=Rum. We are going to dive into the BO, and Conan will somehow know from Rum more info about them. I understand Gosho's mindset and gracefuly accept the reveal as it is, for it wasn't that big of a surprise to me. Yet in the light that Gosho may be playing us, to entertain our frustration with a better twist. Is still a possible way to go.

Is it still far fetched, to say Rum=Wakita=Tsutomo, a character who has been induced into BO?

*** An amusing thought; IS it me, or Wakita's true appearance, is way too similar to Anokata/Karasuma's appearance, both have hooked nose, droppy eyes shape, thick neck, and somewhat a stout body. Could he be the deaged Anokata, hiding his ID by masquerading as his own second in command . Or is he a possible Karasuma family member, perhaps the son of Karasuma, cannot believe a 90+ super rich person not having at least a child .

its not just that with the physical looks its other things like the personality traits. both Rum and Karasuma have been described as extremely impatient. way back in the day i distinctly remember in the early detective conan when we had that case that spoke about Karasuma Renya and the mansion or whatever he was described asgreedy and impatient

karasuma supposedly being the richest man in Japan, Rum may be rich himself and is being driven around in a rolls royce by foreign americans like he has numerous means of wealth

even if there is a new boss now like people theorize, its too weird that Karasuma and his #2 are both very impatient, both the boss and his #2 have the same exact personality traits? something isn't right.

I do agree with you on that point, I mean it may as well be that he is the 2nd in command due to his similarities to the Boss and hence they look alike. Or someone who is a relative and have picked up habits and mindset similar to his boss, we do take it that the current boss cannot be (most likely) the 100+ aged Renya himself. He is most likely deaged/dead/in a coma, this all in place takes us back to BO's goal, APTX true goal, Itakura's program/'raising the dead' and the whole Karasuma Renya mystery. Since Kudo Yusaku made the connection with Shuuichi, and Yusaku never failed in a deduction. I take it that the project that is over 50 years is definitely related to Renya himself, or his mother.

We know from the Renya episode about the golden mansion that he was willing to kill detectives to encourage the others to work quickly towards discovering the treasure that his mother left behind. If his mother is dead, and the whole quote about raising the dead, could allude to Itakura's program having something to do with it?.

Could the special effects pro (Itakura) be making a program about teasure hunting/Infrastructure remodelling to analyze a treasure location (explaining why the BO hires the best programmers from the world).

I apologize for going off-topic, but in the end it is all related within the BO's mystery. We are aware that the Miyanos did know about the BO before joining them and the bad rumors going around, and it does have a name according to Gosho, meaning the BO black members are it's agents behind the curtains, and the BO have a front that is shady. Most likely Rum is the 2nd in command and the leader of BO while the boss is the overall leader of the conglomerate. 'Daikoku' is both the name attributed to the exploded building back in Mantendo company case, and is the name mentioned in the registry at the Mermaid Island by a certian 'Daikoku Rentarou'. Even if I'm wrong, I cannot simply ignore the coincidence (if it's one), and I shall claim based on this reason, 'Daikoku Company' is BO official name, and 'Daikoku Rentarou' is the current leader, whether he is a descendant of Renya, or Renya himself deaged.

Also, while we still theorize and some may not agree with Wakita being Rum, I add this;

https://pasteboard.co/JDXvQaI.png

It appears Wakita/Rum is interested in Conan, while Bourbon is trying to save Conan by protecting him, while Conan is unaware of the true scenario. That Rum is trying to scout him for BO lol.

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Two cars being different has more probability now

I noticed that ,, I'd choose there are two different cars , the second choice

I agree with you, the shape of windows and seats seen clearly in the raw, show that the two cars are different ones.