Rum Arc Discussion Thread (Plot + Characters)

[MeiTanteixX]

How Conan observe that, if he hasn't met him yet without the disguise in the manga?

Sorry, just added some bit for correction. Was meant to be as an example.

[Zerozaki4869]

Dude(assuming you're one), You misinterpreted me. Strong=Likely, weak=unlikely. Weak Rum suspect==Less likely Rum Suspect.

I see, in that case, It's a matter of how you measure how "likely" and "unlikely" the suspects are of being Rum. From the narrative that Gosho is going with, he is trying to put Rumi into the front-line of suspicion. He also threw very obvious hints about Wakita's potential of being Rum, and before that, we had a moment of suspicion about Kuroda(until Haibara dismissed him)(while Mary and Kansuke might as well be confirmed to not be Rum).

Based on Gosho's obvious narrative attempts(of red-herrings), this is the order of "strong=likely":
1. Rumi
2. Wakita
3. Kuroda
4. Kansuke
5. Mary
6. Iori

That would make Iori more likely, since he's the "weakest", since from the narrative, he's not made to seem suspicious at all(like Conan taking notice of his effeminate similarity to Rum's description for example).

How Conan observe that, if he hasn't met him yet without the disguise in the manga?

Also, what about the Bourbon suspects in this? Their suspicion strength was:

1. Subaru
2. Amuro
3. Masumi

So there, in the only other arc with multiple suspects presented in the narrative, it wasn't the weakest suspect.

There wasn't a hint about a race and the winner being one of the speculated weak Horse, during that Arc.
Betting on Iori is like betting on the weakest horse to win a derby. But at the end all those bravest will make a killing.

[k11chi]

There's literally no speculation of it being a "weak horse," there's only Wakita's subjective opinion on the matter... The weak don't win races.

[dccd]

Sometimes they do.

[Zerozaki4869]

There's literally no speculation of it being a "weak horse," there's only Wakita's subjective opinion on the matter... The weak don't win races.

That's right, weak horses don't win races. Similarly apparently weak suspects aren't weak genuinely, all the time.

[k11chi]

There's literally no speculation of it being a "weak horse," there's only Wakita's subjective opinion on the matter... The weak don't win races.

That's right, weak horses don't win races. Similarly apparently weak suspects aren't weak genuinely, all the time.

They don't win races because they're not even qualified to enter the race.
I'm looking at these races and this has a really bad starter horse (number 7) though. But it's just common sense to get rid of the ones that stay behind since everyone else is equal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLGZbeC1kzc

[Kor]

Okay guys, I think you're taking this analogy a bit too far, so let's not derail this topic with literal horse races.

[MeiTanteixX]

Okay guys, I think you're taking this analogy a bit too far, so let's not derail this topic with literal horse races.

Agreed.

[alphajjc]

Okay guys, I think you're taking this analogy a bit too far, so let's not derail this topic with literal horse races.

Agreed.

Can you guys fill me in on what happened to the new chapters?

[Zerozaki4869]

We were discussing about Possible Rum suspects. Discussions are till file 989.

[Zerozaki4869]

We were discussing about Possible Rum suspects. Discussions are till file 989.

I do have a theory about Kuroda and Rumi based on their conversation.

Spoiler: Possible theory

It appears to me that both Kuroda and Rumi refresh each other's memory and remind them of two persons from the past.

At the last panel of the file 987 we see Rumi glaring at Kuroda and the previous panel showed Rumi being shocked after seeing Kuroda.

Probably Kuroda's appearance reminds her of a person with a dysfunctional right eye.

For Kuroda it was someone whom he knew at personal capacity and the said person didn't like camping.

So from Kuroda's perspective Rumi is resembling someone who hated outdoor activities and Kuroda knew that person at a personal level.

(Some might argue that Kuroda was referring to Rum and a killer won't be going to camping trips with kids, but the choice of words of Kuroda proved otherwise, he said that "That person wasn't like this."

This means he is referring to the habits of person, which the said person had in the past, not about the M.O. of that person.)

[andrasb]

Hi everybody!

My name is andrasb, and that's my first post in DCTP Forum. I am very happy, that there is a place, where can I read opions, theories regarding DC. I'd like to share one, which can be read in the spoiler box (I put it for safety).

Spoiler:

I have recently developed a theory about Koji's death, particularly about his dying message. I have read some infos about chess, which can be found for example on the WP. First, perhaps you have heard, that there are some abbreviation for the chess figures, like for Pawn "P", King "K" or Knight "N". Then I went deeper in this topic, and I found, that a pawn should be promoted to queen, knight, rook, or bishop, if it reaches the eigth rank (=row). Of course, it's a free choice of the player. You can expect, that the chess players choose the queen.
What if the dying message was "simply" PTON = P TO N = Pawn promoted TO Knight? That's a chess move at the first glance, but it could be a coded message for a special someone, who can resolve it...

I know, that's rather a speculation at that moment, because of the ASACA RUM solution. But for me that's a really big luck, that names of two people can be puzzled from the mirror subscription.

What's your thought about this theory/speculation?

[Spimer]

Welcme to the frums, Andrasb!

it's a new take but i don't think it's the case.

Spoiler:

Kouj, was a shogi player, not a chess player. Shogi pieces namng doesn't relate to english chess naming.

Also, why leave such a complicated message if he was trying to leave a clue for the police to figure out the killer?

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Spoiler:

Also, why leave such a complicated message if he was trying to leave a clue for the police to figure out the killer?

Spoiler:

Especially considering the track record of police characters in figuring such things out. Unless it's Heizo (Heiji's dad), the police have typically had circles run around them by certain private detectives and certain government agents.

[MeiTanteixX]

Hi everybody!

My name is andrasb, and that's my first post in DCTP Forum. I am very happy, that there is a place, where can I read opions, theories regarding DC. I'd like to share one, which can be read in the spoiler box (I put it for safety).

Spoiler:

I have recently developed a theory about Koji's death, particularly about his dying message. I have read some infos about chess, which can be found for example on the WP. First, perhaps you have heard, that there are some abbreviation for the chess figures, like for Pawn "P", King "K" or Knight "N". Then I went deeper in this topic, and I found, that a pawn should be promoted to queen, knight, rook, or bishop, if it reaches the eigth rank (=row). Of course, it's a free choice of the player. You can expect, that the chess players choose the queen.
What if the dying message was "simply" PTON = P TO N = Pawn promoted TO Knight? That's a chess move at the first glance, but it could be a coded message for a special someone, who can resolve it...

I know, that's rather a speculation at that moment, because of the ASACA RUM solution. But for me that's a really big luck, that names of two people can be puzzled from the mirror subscription.

What's your thought about this theory/speculation?

Welcome! Nice to have u here.

I like your line of thought. If Kohji wasn't that good in english, I wouldn't be surprised if he misspelled "Knight" and left behind "P T O N" instead of "P T O K". However, considering that he was well familiar with chess and was playing in the US, it's a bit unlikely that he wasn't familiar with the "Knight's spelling".

What would "Pawn TO kNight" entail anyway?