Rum Arc Discussion Thread (Plot + Characters)

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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote:Since the "unknown passerby" wasn't addressed in File 991, and the blind man seems to be telling the truth about not hearing anyone leave the crime scene, I'm gonna assume that Iori was the person that passed by Conan and that observed the corpse and crime scene before leaving with his silent steps.
(Again with his assassin-like behavior)
are you sure those aren't just super butler powers?
all this really adds is that once again, someone could not sense his presence
He seems pretty active outside his house for a butler.....Wouldn't a butler be normally inside the house they work in? Odd he keeps ending up around Conan

Especially when he is not close to Momiji. I get if he was out and Momiji was always with him but there has been moments its him alone.

Anyway i'm waiting for us to see another appearance of Wakita
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alphajjc wrote: He seems pretty active outside his house for a butler.....Wouldn't a butler be normally inside the house they work in? Odd he keeps ending up around Conan

Especially when he is not close to Momiji. I get if he was out and Momiji was always with him but there has been moments its him alone.

Anyway i'm waiting for us to see another appearance of Wakita
Well... He is a combat butler.

For wakita... Yeah me too.. at least in case involving kogoro.
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Themaninarmor wrote:
alphajjc wrote: He seems pretty active outside his house for a butler.....Wouldn't a butler be normally inside the house they work in? Odd he keeps ending up around Conan

Especially when he is not close to Momiji. I get if he was out and Momiji was always with him but there has been moments its him alone.

Anyway i'm waiting for us to see another appearance of Wakita
Well... He is a combat butler.

For wakita... Yeah me too.. at least in case involving kogoro.
That hinted confrontation between Wakita and Bourbon... that's what I'm waiting for.
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
Themaninarmor wrote:
alphajjc wrote: He seems pretty active outside his house for a butler.....Wouldn't a butler be normally inside the house they work in? Odd he keeps ending up around Conan

Especially when he is not close to Momiji. I get if he was out and Momiji was always with him but there has been moments its him alone.

Anyway i'm waiting for us to see another appearance of Wakita
Well... He is a combat butler.

For wakita... Yeah me too.. at least in case involving kogoro.
That hinted confrontation between Wakita and Bourbon... that's what I'm waiting for.
Rei/Toru/Bourbon played a big role in the cases that preceded the last two big cases (before Mystery Train and before Scarlet Showdown)—maybe he'll play a big role in the case before the one that'll include File 1000, and make it 3 for 3.
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movie 21 guide book releases in 6 days, since it comes out before the movie it might not have much but Momiji is in the bottom corner
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote: That hinted confrontation between Wakita and Bourbon... that's what I'm waiting for.
Rei/Toru/Bourbon played a big role in the cases that preceded the last two big cases (before Mystery Train and before Scarlet Showdown)—maybe he'll play a big role in the case before the one that'll include File 1000, and make it 3 for 3.
Well, since File 1000 might be a ShinRan romance case, the pattern wouldn't hold, but I definitely believe that it's due time for a Wakita/Bourbon appearance(Since we just now got a follow up to Iori/Momiji since File 981-983, so it should follow up with the other components of that case, Bourbon and Iroha restaurant).
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Akai Shuichi:''Fear of death is worse than death itself''
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Shinichi Kudo:''following the smell of blood to arrive upon a crime scene, using every one of your senses to hunt the culprit, then once you've seized hold of him, sinking your sharp teeth(your evidence) until your opponent gives up the ghost, That's a detective''
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MeiTanteixX wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MeiTanteixX wrote: That hinted confrontation between Wakita and Bourbon... that's what I'm waiting for.
Rei/Toru/Bourbon played a big role in the cases that preceded the last two big cases (before Mystery Train and before Scarlet Showdown)—maybe he'll play a big role in the case before the one that'll include File 1000, and make it 3 for 3.
Well, since File 1000 might be a ShinRan romance case...
Oh, there's little doubt that's going to play a role in File 1000 case. Question is, is it going to be solely that (or even mainly)? Even so, there may be something(s) in the background. And then there's how many files that case will comprise.

If Shinichi's coming back, will it involve the BO? Or will it be a Desperate Revival/Shinigami/London situation? Or even both?
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Hopefully Heiji will appear in the file as he deserves it for being such a big part of the series.
Anyway I'm for damn sure not going to spoil it for myself.
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k11chi wrote:Hopefully Heiji will appear in the file as he deserves it for being such a big part of the series.
Well, it is File 1000. Might as well throw in as many players as you can.
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
k11chi wrote:Hopefully Heiji will appear in the file as he deserves it for being such a big part of the series.
Well, it is File 1000. Might as well throw in as many players as you can.
If shinichi will appear in F1000.Then, i want the first battle between shinichi (not in conan body) vs BO because i bet it will excalated the tension so much. But i think it's not gonna happen for now :(
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That could be troublesome since Shinichi is supposed to be dead and if the BO sniffed out that he was alive and this time it's not some prank (like Heiji in the off-season Halloween case) they could move on to finish him off, even.

Unless he manages to do something without them noticing.
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Spimer wrote:Unless he manages to do something without them noticing.
He's already managed to do that three times, already—unless this case winds up being the end of the Rum arc, and the following arc is all about building up to the series finale (making it the final arc of DC), I can't see the BO learning enough to try and take action against him through people like Ran. Unless we're getting a paradigm shift instead of the beginning of the end of DC—like if, after the case that will feature File 1000, Shinichi/Conan would no longer be living with Ran and Kogoro at the Mouri Detective Agency. Or we could even get both a paradigm shift and the beginning of the end of DC. But we could also get neither one of those, too.
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Well... dunno if it was mentioned yet, but the reason for the tap running might be the same as in CH 950?
To make it easier to cut the mirror under water.

Since at the moment there is a discussion about the correct translation going on, im wondering in which room the tap was left running.
[ ] Yonehara = Rum
[ ] Kuroda = Amuros Boss
[x] MG = Mrs. Akai
[x] Haneda = Brother Akai
[ ] Rumi = Asaka
[ ] Wakita = Bo-Member Whiskey (aka the RAT)
[ ] Iori = just a butler
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dccd wrote:Well... dunno if it was mentioned yet, but the reason for the tap running might be the same as in CH 950?
To make it easier to cut the mirror under water.

Since at the moment there is a discussion about the correct translation going on, im wondering in which room the tap was left running.
the Japanese text implies that the uploaded mentioned that the taps in Amanda's room were left running.

this doesn't mean that the taps in Kouji's room weren't running, but it was not stated in the manga
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Do we have something on Wakita? That guy is a something. Also is there something fishy(another interpretation) about the Knaji used in Asaka's name?
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