Forum reserved for discussing specific points of the story—mostly from the manga. Be warned, these discussions will be current with the manga and will spoil many plot lines for anime-centric fans.
Spimer wrote:@wizards: James Black can't be Anokata because he's got an alibi: in Ep 425 he's with Jodie and Conan while Gin rings up Anokata to get permission to kill Kogoro.
And, despite Karasuma's back story being suspicious, there's nothing to link him to the BO. The 2 men who brought marijuana to the mansion were surely some smart thieves that used that to steal all of the valuable stuff.
By the way, if you've made a mistake in one post, you should use the edit option to rewrite it instead of double-posting.
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to be honest it could always be RUM who sent orders this time and gosho made this to stop aiming at james as anokata
We know Nana to no...the crow song is about a crow mourning her death child all ............
So that must mean that the boss's son or daughter( since child specifies no gender) must have died some time ago and they are therefore running after the imortality thing
Other then that
There are so many awesome fans of detective conan who research in details ( hats off to them) . Can you spectulate the hideout of BO?
@geetp007: The choice of the song could be for other motives such, like Conan pointed, it's easy to remember what keys you need to press and thus avoid having to record it on the phone.
Regarding the hideout of the BO, I'd rather say they have many facilities that they use for diferent purposes: Sherry's lab was a public lab and the fire that happened on it after her escape was a press headline so it surely wasn't hidden to begin with.
Then Why are they running after the immortality thing just like Haibara(or vermouth?) said . They are trying to raise the dead against time.
I know antagonists often do 'evil' thing in anime or manga but mustn't there be some reason for them to chase the immortality thing. Someone important must've died or just like you(spimer) said this could all be coincidence
I agree with Chekhov that the BO doesn't have A hideout and they have different buildings for different purposes. The Boss' base of operations is most likely his/her residence, same with the other members. They do not have a "meeting building" They are probably told by various higher-ups "go here and meet us/them there" by text.
"Let's decide once and for all, Vermouth! No more hide-and-seek!!" - Conan Edogawa
@geetp007: because inmortality is one of humanity's earnest wishes? As in something that humans have forever been looking for or trying to achieve? Wouldn't that make them the most powerful humans ever? It's more than enough of a reason to chase that goal: ambitious people (and sometines not ambitious people) wish to be inmortal because it makes them feel above others.
The BO seem to be fond of using abandoned warehouses as meeting points: they used on Ep 425, Kir met with her father in a warehouse during the flashbacks of her past, and Akai was told that he was to meet Gin in a warehouse before he got found out he was a spy.
The port area also seems to be another favorite: Gin meets Kir there in Clash of Red and Black to give her the orders to kill Akai.
Oh. And speaking of 425, their first meeting is at a normal and vulgar underground parking: they just choose a time when there wasn't anyone around to listen into their chat.
So, like unclesporkums says, they don't have a HQ. It makes sense: they're always scattered across the city and/or nation making it harder to catch all of them in one sweep.
unclesporkums wrote:I agree with Chekhov that the BO doesn't have A hideout and they have different buildings for different purposes. The Boss' base of operations is most likely his/her residence, same with the other members. They do not have a "meeting building" They are probably told by various higher-ups "go here and meet us/them there" by text.
In that case, where do the Organisation train their assassins?
@rocketpropelledbear: maybe they've got an underground shooting range or something like that? That shooting range at the start of Ep 425 is anime-only so it's questionable wheter or not it's canon. Maybe they also go to the forest or the mountains, places where there is little risk of being witnessed by others.
Anyway a criminal syndicate of such caliber must have some deep connections inside the government, for example their government contacts can provide them locations and facilities for training as well as covering them up. It would make sense for part of the government or powerful individuals within the government to secretly cooperate with the syndicate if the ultimate goal of the syndicate is to attain immortality, I really doubt a Non-Government Organisation can become as lethal and secretive as the Black Organisation is in Detective Conan. *I am wearing a tinfoil hat now*
@rocketpropelledbear: we know through Ep 425 that the BO keeps an eye in politics because they wanted to assassinate that politician who might become prime minister in the future: they seemed to think that his strong sense of justice would hinder their dealings.
But from there to say that they're related to the government I think it's a bit too big of a leap: we've got nothing that hints at that insofar. And through drugs and blackmail and all it's possible for the BO to earn a lot of money: maybe there are hidden contributors who provide money behind the scenes as well.
unclesporkums wrote:I agree with Chekhov that the BO doesn't have A hideout and they have different buildings for different purposes. The Boss' base of operations is most likely his/her residence, same with the other members. They do not have a "meeting building" They are probably told by various higher-ups "go here and meet us/them there" by text.
In that case, where do the Organisation train their assassins?
Haibara went to school in America, and it's pretty clear that they (at least used to) operate in America, so they could easily fly to America for their gun shooting. There's vast regions in the south west were they could shoot off machines and detonate explosives and nobody would ever find out. Maybe Australia too, but I think gun control in Australia is probably better than America so it would be harder to get heavy firearms in (then again, they don't seem to have any shortage of weapons in Japan, so maybe it wouldn't be too hard).
@rocketpropelledbear: maybe they've got an underground shooting range or something like that? That shooting range at the start of Ep 425 is anime-only so it's questionable wheter or not it's canon. Maybe they also go to the forest or the mountains, places where there is little risk of being witnessed by others.
Then what about their supplies....bombs, guns, sniper rifles, and all the state-of-the-art gadgets..
@geetp007: black market suppliers or they themselves smuggle them from other countries. As for the gadgets, it may be similar: they have suppliers or contacts who get them in a secretive manner. Since they've got a lot of money then they surely can do all of that.
I believe that it isn't possible for us to know who the boss is, yet.One thing which really annoys me is that even though so many people have infiltrated the organization and Ai was even a member of them, we don't know it's real name yet(I know its because it is directly linked to the boss and it would make it very easy to tell)but we should atleast know the name, with so many infiltrators/members around...And Akemi.She could have told us something useful instead of just warning us that the org is dangerous and all.I really think Kir has to die for some plot development now, probably Rum finds her out for being a spy, Amuro and Akai finally reconcile and decide to fight the BO together
Touichi Kuroba wrote:I believe that it isn't possible for us to know who the boss is, yet.One thing which really annoys me is that even though so many people have infiltrated the organization and Ai was even a member of them, we don't know it's real name yet(I know its because it is directly linked to the boss and it would make it very easy to tell)but we should atleast know the name, with so many infiltrators/members around...And Akemi.She could have told us something useful instead of just warning us that the org is dangerous and all.I really think Kir has to die for some plot development now, probably Rum finds her out for being a spy, Amuro and Akai finally reconcile and decide to fight the BO together
This happened primarily because the author is determined to drag on the story, which is why we know next to nothing about the organisation even though characters who should know such information already appeared.
