Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 894-898: Scarlet Series!

[Jeichan]

Not sure if I need to put this in spoilers, but just in case I will.

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I think Yusaku should definitely be involved in this arc/series simply because it will be suspicious for him not to be. The Black Org. thinks Shinichi Kudo is dead, so they would assume that his family would get involved at some point to figure out why and who did it. If Yusaku doesn't get involved then that would raise suspicion on Shinichi's 'death' and lead to discovering that he didn't die.

Thus this arc/series, if Yusaku gets involved, will dissolve any possible suspicion that the Black Org. has about Shinichi's death as well as lead to Bourbon being dealt with and possibly captured. If Conan's plan includes a twist that involves Akai showing himself as another person disguised (even if it is the real Akai disguised as someone else disguised as him), then Akai being alive can also be kept secret from the Black Org.

[k11chi]

Not sure if I need to put this in spoilers, but just in case I will.

Spoiler:

I think Yusaku should definitely be involved in this arc/series simply because it will be suspicious for him not to be. The Black Org. thinks Shinichi Kudo is dead, so they would assume that his family would get involved at some point to figure out why and who did it. If Yusaku doesn't get involved then that would raise suspicion on Shinichi's 'death' and lead to discovering that he didn't die.

Thus this arc/series, if Yusaku gets involved, will dissolve any possible suspicion that the Black Org. has about Shinichi's death as well as lead to Bourbon being dealt with and possibly captured. If Conan's plan includes a twist that involves Akai showing himself as another person disguised (even if it is the real Akai disguised as someone else disguised as him), then Akai being alive can also be kept secret from the Black Org.

They can't even remember Shinichi so no it's the opposite... During the Vermouth arc Gin asked about it from Vermouth I think.
Also it's not clear whether this is Amuro as BO or Amuro as someone else trying to catch Akai.

[MeiTanteixX]

my own cover of the Scarlet series!

[mihai]

This was an interesting way to make Bourbon believe Okyia is not Akai without Okiya having to unmask himself as someone else. It may also lead Bourbon to doubt himself a little bit, though his logic about how the trick was done was spot on. What I found most interesting though is that Bourbon now knows about Agasa's voice changing machine. Though we're not sure if he's aware of the shrinking effect, it will definitely sure up his suspicious of how Conan is using Kogoro as his puppet. I can't wait to not only see how this all resolves itself but also what role Bourbon will play in the story moving forward.

True, leading things so that Okiya doesn't have to uncover his identity(which is Yuusaku at the moment) is the safest way to divert Amuro's deductions. If Yuusaku is revealed, Amuro would be even more suspicious after he deduced Akai's trick spot on and the Kudou family would be in more danger in the future for working with FBI.

All the talk in the Kudou mansion was probably to stall Amuro until Akai revealed himself on Raiha pass and force him to go after Akai and/or wrap things up at Kudou mansion quicker so that it'll be easier for Conan to make Amuro believe what he's serving him on the plate.

[IShinichiKudo]

in chapter 896Bourbon said*Mask*
and then okiya took off his Gag(he understand it like this).
but bourbon want to take off his mask not the gag,there'sn't any B.OMembers talk with ENG except Vermouth!!
so she disguised as bourbon
and two more things
1-when vermouth recieved the call from her Colleagues said that akai is infront of us..so bourbon expected that if Okiya is masqueraded. he will be in another place.
2-the person in jodies&camel's car isn't akai for that reason up^
and for this reason
*in car* focus on it..when (real akai) is an car..he put his left hand above his right,but as can we see in chapter896,akai put his right hand above the left..so he isn't the real akai..
one more thing..
Okiya subaru in chapter894-896 isn't the real(akai)
because he's right-handed as we can see
look@the cups stick and the spoon..it's Bounded to the right direction.
well ican't understand why yusaku will be(Okiya) why he not anyman who can disguise as him!
even ican't understand why he would travel from U.S.A to Japan to do something like this!
and last not least..maybe the trick that Okiya used it to change his voice like in episode345..ican't remember the chapter so watch the

that's how it works..

why this trick??
because when Okiya took-off his gag..he didn't talk with his real voice! because the gag was near his mouth!




so the important things is..
•Bourbon is fake
•Okiya is fake
•Akai is fake
•the trick of Okiya's voice is like the trick in episode345.

[Okiyakaivan]

Picture not belong to me

i love this scene, XD Akai Kakkoi

[Ice9455]

All the talk in the Kudou mansion was probably to stall Amuro until Akai revealed himself on Raiha pass and force him to go after Akai and/or wrap things up at Kudou mansion quicker so that it'll be easier for Conan to make Amuro believe what he's serving him on the plate.

Yeah that was my thought, kind of distract Amuro and split his focus, since his search for Akai seems to trump the mysterious Okiya. Though I don't think he'll simply let the fact there are multiple cameras watching this exchange, if anything it will lead him to ask what did they want to see.

[ALAKTORN]

Does the way you fold your arms mean anything in terms of handedness? I’m right-handed and my left arm is above my right arm when I fold them. Also, the way Aoyama draws folded arms is totally unrealistic, the hand of the under-arm should be open and grabbing the other arm, not be tucked in under the arm. Or is that actually something people do…?

This is how I do it:

Spoiler:

[RoboG55]

Does the way you fold your arms mean anything in terms of handedness? I’m right-handed and my left arm is above my right arm when I fold them. Also, the way Aoyama draws folded arms is totally unrealistic, the hand of the under-arm should be open and grabbing the other arm, not be tucked in under the arm. Or is that actually something people do…?

This is how I do it:

Spoiler:

I'm left-handed, and my right arm is over my left one. Yeah, some people can do it.

[IShinichiKudo]

what I mean that when real akai in car..he never change his way get it?

[PhantomWriter]

what I mean that when akai in car..he never change his way get it?

But he also, as Subaru, crosses his arms that same way as in the car.



I'm a bit skeptical of the theory of the Akai in the car being fake, as we haven't yet been given other pieces of evidence that might support the theory. The Subaru in the Kudou house is clearly fake and is clearly right-handed.

[IShinichiKudo]

what I mean that when akai in car..he never change his way get it?

But he also, as Subaru, crosses his arms that same way as in the car.



I mean in the car
look it's like real akai's
the Okiya and Akai in the left and below those are the real Akai's way when he get in a car.understand?
the right one isn't the real one cause the way is different to akai's real way!

[~>Absinthe<~]

I think that's just how Gosho draws crossed arms.



And hey, I just noticed! Shuukichi crosses his arms the same way Backseat Akai did, so...

[Okiyakaivan]

Yusaku just helping conan n akai plan to distrack amuro plan to capture akai?

[Dyka_13]

what I mean that when akai in car..he never change his way get it?

But he also, as Subaru, crosses his arms that same way as in the car.



I mean in the car
look it's like real akai's
the Okiya and Akai in the left and below those are the real Akai's way when he get in a car.understand?
the right one isn't the real one cause the way is different to akai's real way!

Hmm... I get you man... this is interesting...

We should also check what chapter was that standing okiya with his arms crossed, was it the right handed or left handed okiya? I dont think Gosho will show 3 identical scene, of akai, with different crossarms... That must mean that it is someone else... So I do agree with your points(except Amuro being fake, as theres no solid evidence yet)

If that Akai in the car is fake, I dont think that okiya is the real akai though(in this file)like others have pointed out, I think akai should be 'floating' just in case. So still think that Yuusaku is Okiya.