Akai (SPOILERS)

[SkyVenger]

why waste time on that? the fire would hav already wiped out any possible evidence.

How come it didn't wipe out the hands, eh? At least she could've left the bomb in his stomach if she wanted to kill Akai. BO won't leave a trace, after all...

P.S. To Quiet Lurker, mind putting more proofs of manga links and screenshots?

[Pocky]

more clues
By aluecard at 2008-08-11

who smile  wen there gana die rily that evan a biger clue       
By aluecard at 2008-08-11
By aluecard at 2008-08-11
and  as you can see she is shock from seen that   
By aluecard at 2008-08-11

he's only smiling cause he wants to look cool  8)

and he is ~! FWEEEE akai's so awesome.  8)




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switching bodies or not, HE SHALL BE ALIVE :3

[Aluecard]

only time will tell if his  alive or not : Pocky 
By aluecard at 2008-08-11
but there a 50%  that his Dead  8)

[Rellik]

why waste time on that? the fire would hav already wiped out any possible evidence.

How come it didn't wipe out the hands, eh? At least she could've left the bomb in his stomach if she wanted to kill Akai. BO won't leave a trace, after all...

will the hand connect it to BO at all? no

but the hand must be rely well protected, i mean how can a pocket stop the fire from incinerating his hand?

[SkyVenger]

why waste time on that? the fire would hav already wiped out any possible evidence.

How come it didn't wipe out the hands, eh? At least she could've left the bomb in his stomach if she wanted to kill Akai. BO won't leave a trace, after all...

will the hand connect it to BO at all? no

but the hand must be rely well protected, i mean how can a pocket stop the fire from incinerating his hand?

Exactly, why need to preserve the hand? If Akai was really killed that time, was there a need for BO to "preserve" the body in the explosion? I mean the BO would more likely destroy the whole body than leave those hands for "identification purposes". It might not directly connect to BO, but if it was really Akai, then the Tokyo police would know that something is going on with the FBI. Isn't that a risk for BO - having more enemies? So BO would not do something as reckless as leaving Akai's body behind.

However, if there was a body switch and Kir is on the FBI's side, then the body left in the explosion makes sense. Kir might have done it on purpose for the "fake death" plan to succeed.

[Pocky]

why waste time on that? the fire would hav already wiped out any possible evidence.

How come it didn't wipe out the hands, eh? At least she could've left the bomb in his stomach if she wanted to kill Akai. BO won't leave a trace, after all...

will the hand connect it to BO at all? no

but the hand must be rely well protected, i mean how can a pocket stop the fire from incinerating his hand?

Exactly, why need to preserve the hand? If Akai was really killed that time, was there a need for BO to "preserve" the body in the explosion? I mean the BO would more likely destroy the whole body than leave those hands for "identification purposes". It might not directly connect to BO, but if it was really Akai, then the Tokyo police would know that something is going on with the FBI. Isn't that a risk for BO - having more enemies? So BO would not do something as reckless as leaving Akai's body behind.

However, if there was a body switch and Kir is on the FBI's side, then the body left in the explosion makes sense. Kir might have done it on purpose for the "fake death" plan to succeed.

I agree too. A bomb explosion can burn the hand until there are no fingerprints. Kir's in on the plan  Now the question is, how did Kir/someone preserve the hand? Also, the hand's fingerprints belong to Akai. Can someone explain this? HE MUST BE ALIVE. 

& i like how this conversation's getting more detailed. heh. (:

[Rellik]

and also explain to me how can body switching suceed in a matter of 5 seconds. 

[Pocky]

and also explain to me how can body switching suceed in a matter of 5 seconds. 

I do not know. also, you don't know that it was just 5 seconds do you? 

[hakkaino7]

and also explain to me how can body switching suceed in a matter of 5 seconds. 

I do not know. also, you don't know that it was just 5 seconds do you? 

Yeah... and also you said that a "DEAD" person "CANNOT move their head and wipe blood from their mouth"...

[Rellik]

i explained b4, 5 seconds is most likely the time of Akai getting shot in the head to hearing the police and placing the bomb, if this time gets beyond around 8 seconds, Gin would be suspicious why Rena isn't doing anything.

yes i did say a dead person can't, that's why it is either a msitake made by Gosho or some1 moved his head and wiped the blood. If Akai was pretending to be dead, it is stupid if he moves his head or if they made a body switch (if possible), then it would still be stupid to not put him in the exact position he 'died' as.

[Nyarl]

i explained b4, 5 seconds is most likely the time of Akai getting shot in the head to hearing the police and placing the bomb, if this time gets beyond around 8 seconds, Gin would be suspicious why Rena isn't doing anything.

yes i did say a dead person can't, that's why it is either a mistake made by Gosho or some1 moved his head and wiped the blood. If Akai was pretending to be dead, it is stupid if he moves his head or if they made a body switch (if possible), then it would still be stupid to not put him in the exact position he 'died' as.

Aoyama didn't make a mistake with the head position and missing blood, because it's the same in the tankoubon. Aoyama will make revisions for the tankoubon release (note Kir's hand in the bottom panel is drawn differently in this version).

They probably couldn't pose the corpse perfectly due to rigor mortis. They were probably hoping Gin would be too distracted by the police (which they probably called) to keep watching the video feed (and presumably didn't record the feed). It is a dangerous weakness in the plan, though.

Anyway, your "5 second" time limit is arbitrary.

[SkyVenger]

Aoyama didn't make a mistake with the head position and missing blood, because it's the same in the tankoubon. Aoyama will make revisions for the tankoubon release (note Kir's hand in the bottom panel is drawn differently in this version).

Can't you show something more related to the scene? Those pics don't really confirm if Gosho made a mistake (or not) with the drawing of the "Akai death scene" stuff...

i explained b4, 5 seconds is most likely the time of Akai getting shot in the head to hearing the police and placing the bomb, if this time gets beyond around 8 seconds, Gin would be suspicious why Rena isn't doing anything.

I "timed" the dialogue and it reached 10-ish seconds, which is quite enough... But if it isn't, Akai might have moved his own head if he was really alive that time (It seemed to be OK because Gin didn't notice the "head thing"). I still believe that the real "body switch time" measure is the bomb timer, which, up to now, is still a mystery (timer revealed in the anime is "maybe" not canon, so...) well, that's the theory

[Nyarl]

Aoyama didn't make a mistake with the head position and missing blood, because it's the same in the tankoubon. Aoyama will make revisions for the tankoubon release (note Kir's hand in the bottom panel is drawn differently in this version).

Can't you show something more related to the scene? Those pics don't really confirm if Gosho made a mistake (or not) with the drawing of the "Akai death scene" stuff...
...

Meh, if you aren't willing to take my word that there's no difference between the two editions, how could you trust that I'm not just posting a scan from Shonen Sunday? It'd be better to look for yourself or find someone who can corroborate my claim. But anyway, here's what the page from the tankoubon scans looks like. Looks pretty much the same as the scanlation, unlike the revision with Kir's hand from the earlier story, and that's pretty strong proof there wasn't a mistake, or Aoyama just stopped caring for some reason.

[Pocky]

i explained b4, 5 seconds is most likely the time of Akai getting shot in the head to hearing the police and placing the bomb, if this time gets beyond around 8 seconds, Gin would be suspicious why Rena isn't doing anything.

yes i did say a dead person can't, that's why it is either a msitake made by Gosho or some1 moved his head and wiped the blood. If Akai was pretending to be dead, it is stupid if he moves his head or if they made a body switch (if possible), then it would still be stupid to not put him in the exact position he 'died' as.

I don't believe that it was a mere mistake. Do you think Gosho would make 5 mistakes just in one file? no way. Has gosho ever made such a visible and big mistake before? no. So the chances that it was a mistake are very low.

and also explain to me how can body switching suceed in a matter of 5 seconds. 

I do not know. also, you don't know that it was just 5 seconds do you? 

Yeah... and also you said that a "DEAD" person "CANNOT move their head and wipe blood from their mouth"...

I also agree with hakkaino7.






So yeah.

How many of you believe that Akai is alive?

[Pocky]

Aoyama didn't make a mistake with the head position and missing blood, because it's the same in the tankoubon. Aoyama will make revisions for the tankoubon release (note Kir's hand in the bottom panel is drawn differently in this version).

Can't you show something more related to the scene? Those pics don't really confirm if Gosho made a mistake (or not) with the drawing of the "Akai death scene" stuff...
...

Meh, if you aren't willing to take my word that there's no difference between the two editions, how could you trust that I'm not just posting a scan from Shonen Sunday? It'd be better to look for yourself or find someone who can corroborate my claim. But anyway, here's what the page from the tankoubon scans looks like. Looks pretty much the same as the scanlation, unlike the revision with Kir's hand from the earlier story, and that's pretty strong proof there wasn't a mistake, or Aoyama just stopped caring for some reason.

True.