Discussion Thread: Detective Conan Files 818-824 "Mystery Tr

[ShinRan4ver]

gosho also takes part on the movies to make sure that it does not contradict anything with the manga, so i think we can at least take the detail of kaito knowing about tranq gun from the movie..

Just because it's in the movies does not mean it's in the manga (we have no proof that Kaito knows or even cares who Conan truly is). And don't be so sure about Gosho actually working with them closely enough. If I recall correctly there was a conflict between the movie and the manga regarding the meetings between Heiji and Hakuba. In both occasions, Heiji was needed to be informed by Conan who Hakuba is. It's true that in the tenth movie Hakuba was actually Kaito Kid in disguise, but that's beside the point.

okay.. but i still believe that kaito knows something.. i'll find an evidence first.. sorry..

Now considering the Patriot KID case where Conan and KID shared info on each other's mother, it wouldn't surprise me if KID looked up the famous Ryoma movie(this was Yukkio's debut movie so it should be very easy to find) Conan talked about and figure out Conan's Yukkio's Son and therefore Shinichi.

As far as conclusive evidence on KID knowing Conan's identity in manga I don't think there is any.

[mihai]

Kid is ok with knowing he is a great detective, just like Yuusaku most likely knew the previous one was Kuroba Touichi and just enjoyed preventing him from stealing what he was stealing

[gryxyz]

1) I think it'd be pretty interesting if Amuro did, in fact, stay, but most plot relevant characters know he's Bourbon and can't do anything without proof that doesn't make them look susp.
2) Akai may not be the only lefty, but left-handed people are nowhere near as common as right-handed ones. And even if they weren't, Okiya doesn't want to give himself in any way possible. Just think of it like the glasses. Him acting right-handed is just an extra layer of disguise in case Sera sees through the rest. The only problem that could come up is if he has to write right-handed or Ran/Sonoko notice he's acting right-handed when before he was left-handed. He can type instead of writing, ask someone else to write something down or simply get rid of Sera quickly in order to find a way around the first and, otherwise, unless you're a detective-type in DC, it's unlikely Ran/Sonoko will see he's changed handedness without seeing him write.
3) About the comb, when the spoilers first came out, me and several others did a search on wig combs. Okiya's didn't match with the majority of them, which had a very unique kind of design to suit the wigs. So, I doubt that it's something to do with the comb unless Aoyama didn't research it properly, in which case, why highlight it?

1.) Well I doubt Conan will allow Bourbon to be near them. I hope he dies - there has to be some killing after all at some point. It's stupid everybody survives everything.
2. 3.) I know you might be right but it just doesn't feel right for me that he acted on this. Maybe this was just some trolling after all - firt we've seen Okiya using his right hand, so we'd think "wtf?" and then it's shown he had the comb in the other hand - so it could be his dominant. So the highlight was probably just an detail to get us to the right line again.

[El Huesudo II]

1.) Well I doubt Conan will allow Bourbon to be near them. I hope he dies - there has to be some killing after all at some point. It's stupid everybody survives everything.

I disagree. A BO high-rank dying, any of them, without an apparent reason, is pretty bad news for the main cast. Questions will be asked, an investigation will begin, and the main plot's key characters will all begin to walk on thin ice.

It's pretty obvious. That man is cautious. Too cautious. If for some reason one of his henchmen is offed and he gets no immediate explanation, I guess all hell would break loose. These are people who were willing to blow up a hospital chock-full of people to erase their footprints. If they're alerted that someone new is going against them and that he's getting dangerously close to them, who knows what they'd be capable of doing.

And even if Vermouth puts a lid on all of that like usual, I don't think her big cover-up can last forever, hell, if that man orders an investigation on her for some reason, it's all over.

Someone has to die at some point, yes. But right now, the ones actually in life-threatening danger, speaking from a plot structure standpoint, are everyone on Conan's side besides him. The BO currently has the biggest amount of plot armor simply because the demise of any of them would mark the beginning of the end (of the story).

[pofa]

I'd prefer it if Bourbon didn't die two files after he revealed himself. If a BO has to die, let's have it be one of the older cast. :x

But if Akai wants to die for real this time, I'm totally cool with that.

[shihokudo]

my words.  WOW. YOU GUYS WERE ALL CORRECT. I THINK I'M SLOW. BUT OMG. I'M EXCITED.

[Fennec]

Oh yeah, by the way... Does Ai know that Shuichi Akai and Dai Moroboshi are the same person? If I recall correctly, she's aware that there's an FBI agent named Shuichi Akai, but I don't think she ever met Akai face-to-face in a situation where she knew he was Akai. They've run into each other and saw each other, but she never heard his name except possibly in the bus-jacking—and at the time, she may have A) been too paralyzed with fear to pay too much attention to names, and B) been unable to identify him due to his face mask. Even when he removed it, she was still trembling in fear.

She may think of the names as belonging to two separate people. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

[Atraos]

Oh yeah, by the way... Does Ai know that Shuichi Akai and Dai Moroboshi are the same person? If I recall correctly, she's aware that there's an FBI agent named Shuichi Akai, but I don't think she ever met Akai face-to-face in a situation where she knew he was Akai. They've run into each other and saw each other, but she never heard his name except possibly in the bus-jacking—and at the time, she may have A) been too paralyzed with fear to pay too much attention to names, and B) been unable to identify him due to his face mask. Even when he removed it, she was still trembling in fear.

She may think of the names as belonging to two separate people. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

I don't think she knows, even Akemi was calling him Dai, this might be a habit, but, considering that  he didn't wan't to hurt Akemi or endanger his sister (if I recall right, Sera went overseas right after Akai was found out) by revealing his true identity, he might have never (had the chance to have) told Akemi his real name. So Ai shouldn't know either. Even when he Okyia told her "not to make this face" she recalled him as Moroboshi Dai.

What I'm more concerned about is if Ai's behaviour in the Bus hijacking still holds up, now that we know she is able to recognize him by face. Another question if she would tell Conan about the presence of an FBI agent, if she had to reveal that much delicate details about her past, Gosho still has some leeway

[S.Vineyard]

Well, she knows that a FBI agent named Shuichi Akai saved her. (Vol. 46; she overheared a conversation between Agasa and Conan).

But you are right, she doesn't seem to know that Dai and Akai are the same person.

[MagicianUndertheMoonlight]

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that the mystery train is headed for Nagoya and the song "Nanatsu no ko" was published there?

[El Huesudo II]

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that the mystery train is headed for Nagoya and the song "Nanatsu no ko" was published there?

Interesting. Very interesting.

Who knows, maybe this arc's finale is gonna have a surprise for the readers.

[leokiko]

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that the mystery train is headed for Nagoya and the song "Nanatsu no ko" was published there?

Interesting. Very interesting.

Who knows, maybe this arc's finale is gonna have a surprise for the readers.

It would certainly be cool for the boss to have his first appearence. Not showing his face or anything though, of course. Just a ''shadow'' figure sending messages on his phone.

[s.pel]

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that the mystery train is headed for Nagoya and the song "Nanatsu no ko" was published there?

and it was also published in july..

[El Huesudo II]

It would certainly be cool for the boss to have his first appearence. Not showing his face or anything though, of course. Just a ''shadow'' figure sending messages on his phone.

LOL

Finally, That Man revealed: A "culprit" figure on a fancy office.

[leokiko]

It would certainly be cool for the boss to have his first appearence. Not showing his face or anything though, of course. Just a ''shadow'' figure sending messages on his phone.

LOL

Finally, That Man revealed: A "culprit" figure on a fancy office.

Better than nothing, and Gosho isn't going to reveal such an important person right now. I'm sure he will give some minor hints though.