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@Akonyl: I also thought Okiya's thought "I see, that's how it is..." was a "I see that's how he changes his voice to speak as Shinichi", assuming Okiya already knew Conan=Shinichi, but then it could have been that it was confirmation, because wasn't sure back then if Conan was really Shinichi or not.

About file 814, what Sera said about being a "bad kid" could mean she knows Conan=Shinichi but can't tell it to Ran and thus it hurts her. But then it could have another meaning.

Okiya's obviously telling Conan he knows his identity there even if he says "...is the one who said so..." in the next page it is obvious he's telling to him he knows who he is.
And Conan's stuff with the bowtie attached to the phone is fashion to school... xD
Really Conan looked pitiful in this case...

By the way Okiya/Akai>Conan <33
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Come on Conan, reveal your identify to Okiya and Ran. Ran already sees the shadow of Little Jimmy (Jimmy is Shinichi's English version name) on your side. Reveal the truth will set you free.

Recent resolution case last page had no small window, all series had hints about 3 Bourbon suspects Okiya, Sera, Amuro. File 808 is about Amuro had relationship to Date, File 811 is about Subaru's area, now File 814 is about Sera's "bad child" pharse.

Sera's smirk is very identical to Kaito Kid, huh. The reason for Sera crying and think "I am a bad kid" is when she sees Ran and Conan acted like siblings and recalled about her childhood memory for being siblings. If Akai is really her brother, then Sera was punished by her brother frequently for being mischievous.

My silly prediction for File 815 page 2 is the childhood memory of the moment between little Sera and little Akai, but their faces are covered in darkness (in order not to reveal they are siblings). Suddenly the scene changed to school, Ran and Sonoko called Sera who is in a daze then Sera noticed they called her.


Example like that for Jodie and Vermouth 20 years ago
http://www.citymanga.com/detective_cona ... er-426/03/

Then it will reveal Jodie's face later
http://www.citymanga.com/detective_conan/chapter-433/
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whoawhoawhoa! What a file :D"
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Conan was very careless with his identity on that case! I wonder when will be the next time he slip up again, and if Ran is going to notice!
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theory about Conan's forgetfulness: it's due to the apoptosis, which caused his brain to revert to that of a child. As the child's brain can't maintain all the connections of the teenage Shinichi's brain, his mind is slowly withering away to that of a normal child. It's the beginning of the tragic end of the series, where Conan slowly forgets who he really is, and stops chasing after the BO as he fully becomes Conan.

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Akonyl wrote: theory about Conan's forgetfulness: it's due to the apoptosis, which caused his brain to revert to that of a child. As the child's brain can't maintain all the connections of the teenage Shinichi's brain, his mind is slowly withering away to that of a normal child. It's the beginning of the tragic end of the series, where Conan slowly forgets who he really is, and stops chasing after the BO as he fully becomes Conan.

... :V
Yeah that must be it, poor Shinichi. -_-
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Akonyl wrote: theory about Conan's forgetfulness: it's due to the apoptosis, which caused his brain to revert to that of a child. As the child's brain can't maintain all the connections of the teenage Shinichi's brain, his mind is slowly withering away to that of a normal child. It's the beginning of the tragic end of the series, where Conan slowly forgets who he really is, and stops chasing after the BO as he fully becomes Conan.

... :V

...Is it bad I actually think this sounds pretty awesome?
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sonoci wrote:
Akonyl wrote: theory about Conan's forgetfulness: it's due to the apoptosis, which caused his brain to revert to that of a child. As the child's brain can't maintain all the connections of the teenage Shinichi's brain, his mind is slowly withering away to that of a normal child. It's the beginning of the tragic end of the series, where Conan slowly forgets who he really is, and stops chasing after the BO as he fully becomes Conan.

... :V

...Is it bad I actually think this sounds pretty awesome?
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Hello guys, even though I read DC regularly here on the site, I'm a newbie in the forum and this is my first post.

Have anyone considered that Okiya might be Conan's dad, Yuusaku?
- He lives quite comfortably in Kudou's house
- If he really hides a voice changer in his neck (I agree with this theory), it's highly plausible that Agasa made it for him, hence they are close friends
- Yukiko would have a reason to be living in the house, as many of you suggested. She helps Yuusaku with the disguise, and more importantly, she's his wife lol
- And most important, only Yuusaku can be superior than Conan. It also explains why he suggested the solution but not solved it himself
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I don't think this is that surprising for Okiya to be superior than Conan in solving cases...He is a very good detective and have more experience than Conan(if we assume that Okiya is Akai)...
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AICHAN wrote: I don't think this is that surprising for Okiya to be superior than Conan in solving cases...He is a very good detective and have more experience than Conan(if we assume that Okiya is Akai)...
Exactly, being in the FBI.. and has entered the Org, pretended he was someone bad.. until he gets discovered plus it wasn't even his fault.. was waiting for the Org to appear near the Detective Mouri Agency just in case if the BO found out for the transmitter that was on Kir's shoe.. (I wonder if Conan had predicted something like this could have happened)

While Shinichi has difficulties to hide his identity in front of someone like Ran....
==> Okiya/Akai>>Conan
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Incomplete-tantei wrote:
AICHAN wrote: I don't think this is that surprising for Okiya to be superior than Conan in solving cases...He is a very good detective and have more experience than Conan(if we assume that Okiya is Akai)...
Exactly, being in the FBI.. and has entered the Org, pretended he was someone bad.. until he gets discovered plus it wasn't even his fault.. was waiting for the Org to appear near the Detective Mouri Agency just in case if the BO found out for the transmitter that was on Kir's shoe.. (I wonder if Conan had predicted something like this could have happened)

While Shinichi has difficulties to hide his identity in front of someone like Ran....
==> Okiya/Akai>>Conan
I completely agree with that...
That's also  why I disagree with the thery Okiya=Yusaku...
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Point is, Okiya never shown to have superior ability to Conan before, even when he can't hold back since hedeal with life and death matter, like the paper airplane case (the victim could starve to death). Why just now he suddenly superior ?
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Okiya has been shown to be far more cunning than Conan. Better in deduction? Not so much, but I'd say they are pretty close to par.
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