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Olive wrote: Gosho = the Boss is probably the most sensible theory I've heard so far. xDD
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I am beginning to suspect that the boss is Eri Kisaki. Kisaki means queen. The woman who called itakura was acting like a queen. Kisaki means queen .Also itakura heard a cat's sound (goro chan) . She is a successful lawyer and a highly influential person .
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vk_dragon wrote: I am beginning to suspect that the boss is Eri Kisaki. Kisaki means queen. The woman who called itakura was acting like a queen. Kisaki means queen .Also itakura heard a cat's sound (goro chan) . She is a successful lawyer and a highly influential person .
but why should  vermouth be her "lover" ? xD
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vk_dragon wrote: I am beginning to suspect that the boss is Eri Kisaki. Kisaki means queen. The woman who called itakura was acting like a queen. Kisaki means queen .Also itakura heard a cat's sound (goro chan) . She is a successful lawyer and a highly influential person .
In Gosho's "disney" anime, no character who is part of a loving couple would be the boss. Not to mention it would be too cruel for Ran. Gosho is never cruel towards anyone BUT Haibara. plus, Haibara never met Eri, so

Even if it would be a twist, it would be a bad twist - the character who appeared a few times and didn't seem to have any relation to the plot whatsoever except giving some more personality to Kogoro. and what the heck is her relation to Vermouth is, also, why from all we learned about this character until now, would she be interested in a drug that may ressurect zombies/be against the stream of time/whatever?
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I know! It's ASUZA! She's been watching Shinichi the whole time!  :D
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ShinRan36 wrote:
vk_dragon wrote: I am beginning to suspect that the boss is Eri Kisaki. Kisaki means queen. The woman who called itakura was acting like a queen. Kisaki means queen .Also itakura heard a cat's sound (goro chan) . She is a successful lawyer and a highly influential person .
but why should  vermouth be her "lover" ? xD
The correct question is, "Why shouldn't Vermouth be her lover?"  ;D

Sadly, we actually don't know that Vermouth and "That Person" are lovers.  Just that Vermouth is "That Person's" favorite.
Kor wrote: Even if it would be a twist, it would be a bad twist - the character who appeared a few times and didn't seem to have any relation to the plot whatsoever except giving some more personality to Kogoro. and what the heck is her relation to Vermouth is, also, why from all we learned about this character until now, would she be interested in a drug that may ressurect zombies/be against the stream of time/whatever?
We don't know anything about Ran's grandparents.
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Abs. wrote: We don't know anything about Ran's grandparents.
Later Edit: This is outdated. Please refer to here for the most recent version.

We don't know anything about Kogoro's family either and its ususual and suspicious considering he is one of the top three freaking main characters. Conspiracy theory rant time! (a repost)
There is a conspicuous absence of anything pertaining to Kogoro's family background. He's a main character and absolutely nothing has been mentioned even in passing about any of his kin beyond Ran. Considering the length of the manga and that character history stories are otherwise quite common, I believe this omission is intentional. I can think of three situations that would account for the censorship.
a) Someone(s) in Kogoro's family has a critical connection or position in the Org. I do not support the theory that Kogoro himself is part of the Crow Corps, but with the family name "Mouri", and its difficult-to-ignore resemblance to "Moriarty" from the Sherlock canon, I think that this theory concerning relatives on the dark side holds thematic appeal.
b) Someone(s) in Kogoro's family was a victim of the Org, and that the circumstances/mystery behind it are a major clue to one of the central mysteries like the identity of the boss, or the org's name, etc.
c) Kogoro's background relations are not important or non-existent. I think this explanation is weak because it goes against Gosho's style. The vast majority of the main and secondary characters have had some member of their family brought up, often as participants or suspects in cases, as motivation for why the character is where they are now, or simply mentioned in passing. The idea that Gosho would ignore using Kogoro's family for any case/plot purposes without a genuinely good reason for (as of now) 717 chapters is unreasonable.
The reasons why a relative of Kogoro can't be introduced too early could be one or more of the following:
a) It would be too big of a hint.
b) It would call unwanted attention and suspicion where Gosho does not yet want it.
c) It serves as a major plot key which will enable Conan to solve a very important mystery.
Given that this censorship on Kogoro's kin has been going on since the very beginning of the manga, it would be logical to assume that the reason is pertinent to the overarching mysteries - namely what is the true nature of the Org, who is the boss, and what is its goal.
In short, I believe it is reasonable to assume that Kogoro has (or had) one or more plot-significant family members who have (or had) vital connections to the Black Org, as either victims or members.
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... goddamnit Chekhov, now you've gone and ruined everything.  (Again.)
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is there any point in which there is a refrence to one of Kogoro's other family members? (Gosho said that the boss was shown in some form.............then again, Gosho said many other things that didn't really happen...)
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Kor wrote: is there any point in which there is a refrence to one of Kogoro's other family members? (Gosho said that the boss was shown in some form.............then again, Gosho said many other things that didn't really happen...)
No. I searched high and low, but there is not a single sentence about his family members beyond Eri and Ran. We know about Kogoro's past with Eri and a little bit about his time in the police force but that's it. It's a black box lurking quietly in the corner hoping we won't notice it if it doesn't say anything...
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Dear Chekhov, Resident Researcher  ;D

Can't the same be said of Eri, Yukiko, and Yuusaku?
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Abs. wrote: Dear Chekhov, Resident Researcher  ;D

Can't the same be said of Eri, Yukiko, and Yuusaku?
True, but they are less important characters. Kogoro is in the top 3 along with Ran and Conan. Eri shows up maybe once every 75-100 one case out of 35 to 50, Conan's parents even less. Kogoro shows up in something like half of the chapters. Also, if Gosho had something to hide about Kogoro's family, he might avoid the backstories of Eri at least because Gosho doesn't want anyone to wonder about when then will we get Kogoro's now that we have seen one of the other parents'.
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lol I hope not as that reminds me of the stupid Dante plot twist in the first FMA series.
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