Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

[Borealis]

Yes (Isn't it on Mars)

[Aokochan]

(Isn't it on Mars)

Ops yes, sorry
Another question: Are there martians?

[sstimson]

Just my opinion, but you are doing it again. My answer does solve your question, but is not what you are looking for. So after it is solved, you will need to explain why my answer can not work for your riddle, not why it is not what you are looking for. And I will stay out of answering it for now

[c-square]

Just my opinion, but you are doing it again. My answer does solve your question, but is not what you are looking for. So after it is solved, you will need to explain why my answer can not work for your riddle, not why it is not what you are looking for. And I will stay out of answering it for now

I think the response to this is because your answer is simply not the solution.  Riddles like this start off with many possible answers, but only one right one.  By asking questions, you can slowly weed out all the wrong answers (that are possible given the setup), to get to the right one.  For example, if you asked "Was a meteor involved in this scenario?" I'm guessing Borealis would have said "No", thus making your answer incorrect.

Still waiting to find out if there are any martians. 

A few more questions:
Did John die from lack of oxygen?
Did John freeze to death?
Will Jim die from lack of oxygen?
Will Jim freeze to death?
Does John kill himself to avoid a worse death?

[sstimson]

you are likely and that is part of the problem because of possible cheating. It is like a game of twenty questions where there person being asked changes the item they are thinking of. His riddle might as well be like this it is big, what is it . A TRUE riddle should provide all necessary information so cheating is removed. Question would be allowed later of after a period of time the riddle remands unsolved. The way he is doing it opens up too much and IMO is no longer fair.

By the way I can guess the answers to your questions but to avoid "cheating" I will Pm you what I think there are.

[Borealis]

Just my opinion, but you are doing it again. My answer does solve your question, but is not what you are looking for. So after it is solved, you will need to explain why my answer can not work for your riddle, not why it is not what you are looking for. And I will stay out of answering it for now

I think the response to this is because your answer is simply not the solution.  Riddles like this start off with many possible answers, but only one right one.  By asking questions, you can slowly weed out all the wrong answers (that are possible given the setup), to get to the right one.  For example, if you asked "Was a meteor involved in this scenario?" I'm guessing Borealis would have said "No", thus making your answer incorrect.

Still waiting to find out if there are any martians. 

A few more questions:
Did John die from lack of oxygen?
Did John freeze to death?
Will Jim die from lack of oxygen?
Will Jim freeze to death?
Does John kill himself to avoid a worse death?

thanks, c-square
I would have given you guys more details but I didn't have the book that one riddle is from with me so I could really only give you what was left in my brain.

To answer the questions:
Yes
No
No (he kills himself before that)
No
Yes

[Kogorou]

Spoiler:

John and Jim are on a Mars Mission with their rocket,
poorly John's oxygen tank went out first, and due to the fact that he was the Pilot of the Spaceship, Jim will die too,
because he doesn't know how to get home.

[Borealis]

@Kororo: No, but thanks for trying
I think we should collect everything (Tips, answers, etc) in one post, there was one tip (at least i hope I wrote it) that would have told you that you have forgotten something

[Kogorou]

Okay let me fetch them for you

Jim never went along well with John.
But now that John was dead, Jim knew that he couldn't live without him.

Question: Why does Jim think so and why is he completely right.


HINT: Hint: Their vehicle is rubish at best now and their wardrobe was specially made for them.

Reversed order:

Did John die from lack of oxygen?
Did John freeze to death?
Will Jim die from lack of oxygen?
Will Jim freeze to death?
Does John kill himself to avoid a worse death?

Yes
No
No (he kills himself before that)
No
Yes

+++++++++++++
Were they on Mars?

Yes

++++++++++++++
Was Jim in a planet that isn't the Earth?
Idem with Jhon.

Yes
Yes

++++++++++++++
Was John in the outer space?
Was Jim in the Moon?

No
No

+++++++++++++++
Is their vehicle a hot air balloon? No
Is their vehicle a spaceship or rocket? Yes
Are Jim and John in outer space? Yes/No
Are Jim and John in the air? No
Are Jim and John falling? No
Does the clothing they wear provide protection of some sort? Yes
Does it provide oxygen? Yes
Does it provide heat? Yes
Would Jim die if he removed his clothing? Yes
Is how John died important to solving the riddle?Yes
Is how Jim will die important to solving the riddle? With or without killing himself?
Did John die slowly (over a period of more than five minutes)? No
Did John die quickly (over a period of less than a minute)? (Not sure)
Will Jim die slowly (over a period of more than five minutes)? He commits suicide
Will Jim die quickly (over a period of less than a minute)? He wants to
Was John's death painful?
Will Jim's death be painful?
Are Jim and John blood or family related? Not important/Don't think so
Do Jim and John have the same profession? Almost

++++++++++++++
Are they brothers?
Are they siamese?
Was their vehicle a plane?

Doesn't matter /not likely
no
no

+++++++++++++++
Are Jim and John human?
Are Jim and John both men?
Are Jim and John related?
Are their occupations important to solving the riddle?
Does their vehicle have wheels?
Does the vehicle fly?
Does the vehicle run on fuel?
Would it be strange to see a person wearing their wardrobe walking down the street?
By 'wardrobe', do you mean the clothes they are currently wearing?
Did John die within the past six hours?
Was John murdered?
Did John commit suicide?
Did John die in an accident?
Is there anyone else with Jim and John?
Are Jim and John alone?

They are both human
they are both men
do you mean blood-related or related in the sense that they live in the same area/have the same job/one bought a car form each other/ their pet dogs are brothers.....?
Their occupations are important
I hasn't
It does
which kind of fuel?
It would be strange
yes, their clothes at the moment
Unimportant/Very likely
he was not murdered
he did not commit suicide
Yes
No
Yes

++++++++++++++

[Borealis]

thanks *glomps Kogoro*
At the beginning there could have been questions that I couldn't really answer mathematically corectly without leading you guys into a totally wrong direction (I think there was something with outher space) And there are some I couldn't really answer anyway so sorry if you are confused.

[Kogorou]

Well I wouldn't call on Mars "outer space" by fact they are on a Planet But still it's not on earth so it's okay to say that they are in space but not in OUTER space. If you know what I mean.

Did they leave their Spaceship ?

[Borealis]

(
That was the one, if I had said no, then anyone had thought they were still on earth)


Yes

[Kogorou]

Did they leave because they wanted to or where they forced because their shuttle crashed?

[Borealis]

I think I have already stated the state their vehicle is in right now.
And I nee Yes/No - answer - questions.^^

[Kogorou]

So their ship is gone for good.

Would John have died if they didn't left the spaceship? - Don't consider this.
Sure he would have died. The suffocated in any place on Mars without his Oxygentank or when his helmet plopped open.