Detective Conan Files 801-803 Discussion Thread: Domestic Vi

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Okiya Subaru
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Amuro Tooru who is not Scar Akai
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Masumi Sera
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Scar Akai who is not Amuro Tooru
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Scar Akai aka Amuro Tooru
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I think the same as IHKF...Trying to kill his wife instead of talking with her...What will happen when the child will be there,will all the problems and the stress that come with?The husband will stab both of them?He doesn't seem to be able to control himself...
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I'm OK with Conan taking the law into his own hands... (sometimes things are best left out of the courts.) But I'm appalled at how easily the wife forgave her husband!! I thought there should at least be some tension there -- even if there had been a misunderstanding, the husband's action was still really extreme and who is to know if he will react in the same way at another misunderstanding in the future? :S I don't like how Gosho made it into an overly sweet happy ending =.= almost makes it seem as though trying to kill someone is not a serious thing at all.
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caribou wrote: I'm OK with Conan taking the law into his own hands... (sometimes things are best left out of the courts.) But I'm appalled at how easily the wife forgave her husband!! I thought there should at least be some tension there -- even if there had been a misunderstanding, the husband's action was still really extreme and who is to know if he will react in the same way at another misunderstanding in the future? :S I don't like how Gosho made it into an overly sweet happy ending =.= almost makes it seem as though trying to kill someone is not a serious thing at all.
Well, we don't know what happend between the rooftop scene and the scene with the police officer interviewing them. they also seem to have come up with a story and everything. I can imagine a lot of fighting between those two in the meantime.
Also, a sweet ending like you said makes a good contrast for a big case as the next one ;)
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Borealis wrote:
caribou wrote: I'm OK with Conan taking the law into his own hands... (sometimes things are best left out of the courts.) But I'm appalled at how easily the wife forgave her husband!! I thought there should at least be some tension there -- even if there had been a misunderstanding, the husband's action was still really extreme and who is to know if he will react in the same way at another misunderstanding in the future? :S I don't like how Gosho made it into an overly sweet happy ending =.= almost makes it seem as though trying to kill someone is not a serious thing at all.
Well, we don't know what happend between the rooftop scene and the scene with the police officer interviewing them. they also seem to have come up with a story and everything. I can imagine a lot of fighting between those two in the meantime.
Also, a sweet ending like you said makes a good contrast for a big case as the next one ;)
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A sweet ending is good, but Shinichi isn't the law. :\ I just don't understand how he can justify this to himself.
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MadelineLime wrote: A sweet ending is good, but Shinichi isn't the law. :\ I just don't understand how he can justify this to himself.
*Nods* He's usually all stern about following the law. Is it a... *GASP* SIGN OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? :O
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Continually drugging people is legal? :P
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Stopwatch wrote: Continually drugging people is legal? :P
Well he has no choice on that, but he had a choice to let the man go. :P
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IHKF wrote:
MadelineLime wrote: A sweet ending is good, but Shinichi isn't the law. :\ I just don't understand how he can justify this to himself.
*Nods* He's usually all stern about following the law. Is it a... *GASP* SIGN OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? :O
it's not really something new, he's done this before like when Kid returned Ryoma's items and Conan decided to not try to arrest him (iirc, unless there was some other reason Conan just let him walk out), regardless of the fact that Kid is still a highly wanted thief.

maybe it's just me, but I don't remember any cases where the victim says "hey everything's cool between me and the culprit, don't arrest him" and Conan goes "NO I MUST EXACT JUSTICE!" regardless. :P
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Akonyl wrote:
IHKF wrote:
MadelineLime wrote: A sweet ending is good, but Shinichi isn't the law. :\ I just don't understand how he can justify this to himself.
*Nods* He's usually all stern about following the law. Is it a... *GASP* SIGN OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? :O
it's not really something new, he's done this before like when Kid returned Ryoma's items and Conan decided to not try to arrest him (iirc, unless there was some other reason Conan just let him walk out), regardless of the fact that Kid is still a highly wanted thief.

maybe it's just me, but I don't remember any cases where the victim says "hey everything's cool between me and the culprit, don't arrest him" and Conan goes "NO I MUST EXACT JUSTICE!" regardless. :P
My @$$ it isn't character development after all the times he's said that people need to pay for their crimes and wrong-doing's or implied it. Letting that dentist go would have been a better call than to let this guy go. :P lol
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IHKF wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
IHKF wrote:
MadelineLime wrote: A sweet ending is good, but Shinichi isn't the law. :\ I just don't understand how he can justify this to himself.
*Nods* He's usually all stern about following the law. Is it a... *GASP* SIGN OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? :O
it's not really something new, he's done this before like when Kid returned Ryoma's items and Conan decided to not try to arrest him (iirc, unless there was some other reason Conan just let him walk out), regardless of the fact that Kid is still a highly wanted thief.

maybe it's just me, but I don't remember any cases where the victim says "hey everything's cool between me and the culprit, don't arrest him" and Conan goes "NO I MUST EXACT JUSTICE!" regardless. :P
My @$$ it isn't character development after all the times he's said that people need to pay for their crimes and wrong-doing's or implied it. Letting that dentist go would have been a better call than to let this guy go. :P lol
Yes, and every time he's made people pay for their crimes it's because the victim is either a) dead or b) doesn't want the culprit to be let go. Just because this is a situation which hardly ever shows up (because the victims hardly ever survive / have a reason to forgive their attackers) doesn't mean that Conan wouldn't have let them go earlier on in the series had he encountered this same situation.
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Akonyl wrote:
IHKF wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
IHKF wrote:
MadelineLime wrote: A sweet ending is good, but Shinichi isn't the law. :\ I just don't understand how he can justify this to himself.
*Nods* He's usually all stern about following the law. Is it a... *GASP* SIGN OF CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? :O
it's not really something new, he's done this before like when Kid returned Ryoma's items and Conan decided to not try to arrest him (iirc, unless there was some other reason Conan just let him walk out), regardless of the fact that Kid is still a highly wanted thief.

maybe it's just me, but I don't remember any cases where the victim says "hey everything's cool between me and the culprit, don't arrest him" and Conan goes "NO I MUST EXACT JUSTICE!" regardless. :P
My @$$ it isn't character development after all the times he's said that people need to pay for their crimes and wrong-doing's or implied it. Letting that dentist go would have been a better call than to let this guy go. :P lol
Yes, and every time he's made people pay for their crimes it's because the victim is either a) dead or b) doesn't want the culprit to be let go. Just because this is a situation which hardly ever shows up (because the victims hardly ever survive / have a reason to forgive their attackers) doesn't mean that Conan wouldn't have let them go earlier on in the series had he encountered this same situation.
So... did Conan, like, go back and talk to the lady before confronting the guy or what? Did I miss something? XD IT looked to me like he just followed the guy straight away before even heading to talk to his wife. XD

Not to mention, we've never really gotten the victim's side of the story afterwords before the criminal is taken away. XD

If that's your theory what about the woman earlier in the series? The bride/teacher? XD I know that there were cops around to witness the whole thing, but the chick ended up marrying the guy afterwords which meant she forgave him which meant she didn't have any hard feelings. XD Did the police just take him in anyway or...? lol (I figure that they would... taking into account one of them was her father...)
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Also, the panel where Akemi was holding Akais arm. Akai looks like a ganster there xD
When does Akai NOT look like a gangster?
True XD But here he looked like one especially, since he had that pose to. Like: "Yo! Outta the way!" and then the long hair that we don't see so often either XD
But looking at that picture made me realize something. You can actually see Akai's entire neck and collarbones. That's about on par with seeing under Vodka's hat. It will probably never happen again.
By the way it already happened before in a flashback of Jodie.
it's not as clear as Haibara's flashback though.
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Incomplete-tantei wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Also, the panel where Akemi was holding Akais arm. Akai looks like a ganster there xD
When does Akai NOT look like a gangster?
True XD But here he looked like one especially, since he had that pose to. Like: "Yo! Outta the way!" and then the long hair that we don't see so often either XD
But looking at that picture made me realize something. You can actually see Akai's entire neck and collarbones. That's about on par with seeing under Vodka's hat. It will probably never happen again.
By the way it already happened before in a flashback of Jodie.
it's not as clear as Haibara's flashback though.
Yeah,you're right...
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AICHAN wrote:
Incomplete-tantei wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
Chekhov MacGuffin wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote: Also, the panel where Akemi was holding Akais arm. Akai looks like a ganster there xD
When does Akai NOT look like a gangster?
True XD But here he looked like one especially, since he had that pose to. Like: "Yo! Outta the way!" and then the long hair that we don't see so often either XD
But looking at that picture made me realize something. You can actually see Akai's entire neck and collarbones. That's about on par with seeing under Vodka's hat. It will probably never happen again.
By the way it already happened before in a flashback of Jodie.
it's not as clear as Haibara's flashback though.
Yeah,you're right...
*needs more Akai pics*
I just happened to notice that when I was re-watching the DB vs Robber Group case. Plus, Akai's neck is more visible in the anime than in the file.
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