Takagi knows Conan's identity (Theory)

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Bugattivr wrote: It's fishy thinking why Takagi kept Conan's cell phone after matching the fingerprint of the corpse and that on the cellphone. Takagi had suspicions of whether Conan was really just a kid. The cell phone obviously contains Conan's fingerprint; I believe Takagi matched it with shinichi's but still can't make a conclusion since conan and shinichi seemingly share a close relationship.( shinichi may likely touch the cellphone and leave his fingerprints on it) But it may frustrate him since shinichi's fingerprints were all over it.
Takagi kept the phone because it was evidence in the 'Akai' murder case. The rest of what you say has already been addressed earlier in the thread.
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he's too stupid..
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GIANLU5777 wrote: he's too stupid..
Not stupid. Just a bit naive.
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He's not stupid, just a little naive, and not even that much. The fact is that he knows that Conan is far from a normal child; has reasonable grounds to suspect that Edogawa Conan is a fake name or persona, from the whole elevator thing; and has handled Conan's prints. If he ever has the reason or inclination to handle/look up Shinichi's prints (the department may already have them around), he'd be on a solid track to figuring out Conan's identity. He just has bigger priorities right now, like doing his very demanding job, getting to dates on time and getting up the nerve for more kisses, and surviving the assassination attempts of every heterosexual male in the Tokyo PD.
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GIANLU5777 wrote: he's too stupid..
Judging intelligence is pretty hard in this manga (for instance, opinions on Kogorou's intelligence vary wildy) but it's your opinion so . . . sure, if you think that way.
Anyway, the real reason I'm posting here ( :-X): How quickly are you posting?! Every time I went back to the Manga section something new had been posted by you . . . it was slightly weird :P. And, welcome to DCTP, I suppose~! :D
*was RMed twice by people defending Takagi  :-X :D*
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Stopwatch wrote:
GIANLU5777 wrote: he's too stupid..
Judging intelligence is pretty hard in this manga (for instance, opinions on Kogorou's intelligence vary wildy) but it's your opinion so . . . sure, if you think that way.
Anyway, the real reason I'm posting here ( :-X): How quickly are you posting?! Every time I went back to the Manga section something new had been posted by you . . . it was slightly weird :P. And, welcome to DCTP, I suppose~! :D
*was RMed twice by people defending Takagi  :-X :D*
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mangaluva wrote: He's not stupid, just a little naive, and not even that much. The fact is that he knows that Conan is far from a normal child; has reasonable grounds to suspect that Edogawa Conan is a fake name or persona, from the whole elevator thing; and has handled Conan's prints. If he ever has the reason or inclination to handle/look up Shinichi's prints (the department may already have them around), he'd be on a solid track to figuring out Conan's identity. He just has bigger priorities right now, like doing his very demanding job, getting to dates on time and getting up the nerve for more kisses, and surviving the assassination attempts of every heterosexual male in the Tokyo PD.
I thought it too..about the fingerprints..and or Gosho has got wrong or the department hasn't Shinichi's fingerprints around in the database...so it's definitely the second one(hoping :) )
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It seems Gosho won't do anything about it for at least another year, so I don't care =/
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leokiko wrote: It seems Gosho won't do anything about it for at least another year, so I don't care =/
You're very patient :D
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leokiko wrote: It seems Gosho won't do anything about it for at least another year, so I don't care =/
How d'you know it?
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GIANLU5777 wrote:
leokiko wrote: It seems Gosho won't do anything about it for at least another year, so I don't care =/
How d'you know it?
Aoyama usually does plot points over a large amount of time (a year or more), with a bit of foreshadowing before the events actually happen. That's probably what leokiko was referring to. :D
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Wow...this thread just keeps getting longer  :D Anyway, it does get frustrating when the plot points take forever to come about.  I actually went through the lists of appearances of specific characters for a friend, since she's trying to get the plot of the story down without having to go through all of the episodes, and while it was (of course) a large number, it was spread into clusters here and there that ranged anywhere between a few episodes apart to a hundred.  It's sort of erratic and confusing, but I think it's what makes it realistic.  We're looking at the whole thing from Conan's point of view (with a few exceptions) and he doesn't know Takagi's state of mind, so neither do we.  We find out when Conan does.  It's up to Gosho to decide when that will be, is all.
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This topic has been bothering me for quite some time now (well, I guess ever since the Matsuda case to be exact), and I'm glad that I saw this thread and that there are several people who think it's possible as well. I really hope that Aoyama-san will do something about this. I believe the last time Takagi has thought about who really Conan is was the Matsuda case. After that episode, no continuation... until the "Shinichi-kun" part I guess.

It also bothers me that little is actually known about Takagi's background, considering he's a popular character. But then again, there's Mouri-tantei, whose background has not been explained in detail as well. Oh wait, Aoyama did say something in an interview about him in the future files. Hehehe, I'm kinda hoping Takagi is related to the Black Organization, i.e. estranged son of Anokata or something. /off-topic
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@ahrjay: It's been bothering me to, but as Dauszke said, we see things from Conan's point of view (or less/more). I think it has been in the back of his (Takagi's) head the whole time, but he didn't act on it. Maybe he has the whole "Conan-issue" labeled with "not immediately dangerous and not easy to get information about"

I also hope that we get some background infos about some characters. As said earlyer, I think that he has lost someone important to him. (could but doesn't have to be connected to BO)
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Actually, Takagi did say and think little things about Conan after and before the Matsuda case, even as late as episode 347 that I remember... just... it started to tail off when the Satou/Takagi stuff did for obvious reasons, less screentime (as in, when he's not just standing there with Megure-keibu) being one of the reasons D:... since then the Shinichi-kun thing has been the only indication, though it's worth noting that during the last time he saw Shinichi (after the Shirigami-sama case) he still referred to him as 'Kudou-kun' which makes me feel that if he made the connection, it was probably after that point...was the Hammer man case after that? :x
*needs to note down Takagi hint things*
Terry Pratchett wrote: The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
bash7353 wrote:I kind of always assumed that Haneda's parents might've had names.
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