Takagi knows Conan's identity (Theory)

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blackgin wrote:
Stopwatch wrote: Ah, I found it, [url=http://"http://www.mangareader.net/139-8226-15/detective-conan/chapter-180.html"]this page, right?[/url]

Anyway, back on topic... sorta, Conan has obviously lost all traces of subtleness he once had, agreed?
Takagi seemed to suspect Conan is another person.  :|

He probably didn't pursue it because he probably thinks he just one smart kid.  :-\

If Takagi ever get Conan's fingerprints and found out that he is really Shinichi Kudo.  :-X

He'll probably saying something like "I'm ready to go to the looney bin because this is not possible".   >:D
1) he seems to suspect that something is defenitely not normal concerning Conan
2) I think it was more in the lines of "That not-kid knows how to disable a bomb, doesn't even flinch when seing a body and solves practical riddles in the blink of an eye. Whatever that guy is up to, it is a number to big for me"
3) he had the opportunity to get them: they were at the mobile phone that Jodie gave him. If he has Shinichi's fingerprints is another question
4) I think he would be more like in pont 2. "Ok, this shouldn't be possible, better ceep out of this"
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Well, I don't know if that's going to happen but it is possible.  :-\

That is if Takagi would pursue it.  >:D

It will probably be like "Sherlock Holmes Freak Murder Case".  ???

When Heiji Hattori found out the truth that Conan is really Shinichi Kudo.  :)
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What do you mean by 'it'll probably be like Holmes Freak Murder Case'? Do you mean the way he'll discover it will be that Conan knocks him out or are you just talking generally...?
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blackgin wrote: Well, I don't know if that's going to happen but it is possible.  :-\

That is if Takagi would pursue it.  >:D

It will probably be like "Sherlock Holmes Freak Murder Case".  ???

When Heiji Hattori found out the truth that Conan is really Shinichi Kudo.   :)
were you referring to my post or someone elese's?  ???
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Borealis wrote:
blackgin wrote: Well, I don't know if that's going to happen but it is possible.  :-\

That is if Takagi would pursue it.  >:D

It will probably be like "Sherlock Holmes Freak Murder Case".  ???

When Heiji Hattori found out the truth that Conan is really Shinichi Kudo.   :)
were you referring to my post or someone elese's?  ???
I'm only saying in theory that possible maybe related to past cases.  :)
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i have been thinking that takagi knows conan's identity too. it just makes sense. takagi is smart.
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A situation to help Takagi's curiosity about Conan at full gear.  ???

OK, I agree because of the "Bombing Case" that rose his suspicion. :)

The question what kind of situation awaken Takagi's suspicion further. :|

Any ideas? >:D
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I've striked out the fingerprint point, but as it still lies a possibility, it's not fully removed. Knowing Takagi's personality, I suspect that unless another life and death situation arises, Takagi isn't likely to question his suspicions again. Then again, who knows how Gosho intends to plan this out.
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i hope life and death situations will happen again soon:P

i think takagi and sato knows conan's identity...conan is often with takagi and sato with agasa hakase and shounen tantei...

i feel like detective boys know his identity too though...or i hope they do...it'll be interesting :)
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KokoConan wrote: i hope life and death situations will happen again soon:P
*Agrees*
KokoConan wrote: i think takagi and sato knows conan's identity...conan is often with takagi and sato with agasa hakase and shounen tantei...
I don't think you can say that they know his identity just because they're seen with certain people more. It increases the probability of them knowing (for example, Conan deducts more normally around Yamato and Koumei while around Megure he's usually more childish) but you can say they know just because of that.
KokoConan wrote: i feel like detective boys know his identity too though...or i hope they do...it'll be interesting :)
It'd be interesting, young kids would be more likely to believe that he's shrunk than older people, but it goes against Aoyama's style IMO; if they knew it'd be like having Hattori around with all the slip ups they'd do, the DBs aren't that good at keeping secrets. Personally, I think they are going to (unintentionally) help another character (probably Ran) by saying about Conan's bowtie and the fact that he used it to talk as Shinichi during the Sera-bombing case. Beyond that, unless you have evidence of them possibly knowing I'd say it's unlikely...
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This is my first time posting so I'm hope I make myself as clear as possible. I think Takagi does know Shinichi is Conan because who remembers when Conan first managed to get the B.O's mail number the time Haibara says its 'Pandora's Box' Conan says "I'll just give it to Takagi-keiji to give them a call" then Haibara says "By doing that you will be putting him indanger" why would Conan even suggest to give the number to Takagi who's status as a police detective is not even as great/better as Shiratori-keiji or Megure but instead suggested giving such very important information about a secret sindicate to no other than Takagi-keiji. That's my reasoning of thinking Takagi knows conan is Shinichi.
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First time posting... hmm... well, welcome secretbeauty~! (Looks like you've not made an intro thread so I'll say it here)
secretbeauty101 wrote: This is my first time posting so I'm hope I make myself as clear as possible. I think Takagi does know Shinichi is Conan because who remembers when Conan first managed to get the B.O's mail number the time Haibara says its 'Pandora's Box' Conan says "I'll just give it to Takagi-keiji to give them a call" then Haibara says "By doing that you will be putting him indanger" why would Conan even suggest to give the number to Takagi who's status as a police detective is not even as great/better as Shiratori-keiji or Megure but instead suggested giving such very important information about a secret sindicate to no other than Takagi-keiji. That's my reasoning of thinking Takagi knows conan is Shinichi.
That's proof that Conan trusts Takagi, but you can't just presume that means Takagi knows Conan is Shinichi when there are plenty more logical and more likely explanations for why Conan trusts him. I do want Takagi to know the truth about Conan but it's best not to make such leaps without anything else to back it up. :)
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In the latest Manga caseV74-11 Page 6  Conan and Heiji told Takagi what was going on, and told him to hid it from everyone. "To fool ones enemies one must fool ones allies." I believe this is the same thing Conan and Akai used the same method to fool the FBI, meaning Takagi may very well know, along with other evidences, i'm positive
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Something pofa said in another thread made me realise something, I'm not sure how relevant it is but it should probably be noted. Takagi was listening when Kazuha mentioned that Kudou confessed, so he now knows that Shinichi just happened to be in London then and about the confession. If Takagi doesn't know (about Kudou and Conan being the same) then it's a very weird coicidence that he could wonder about, if he does know it's more evidence that Shinichi = Conan.
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It's fishy thinking why Takagi kept Conan's cell phone after matching the fingerprint of the corpse and that on the cellphone. Takagi had suspicions of whether Conan was really just a kid. The cell phone obviously contains Conan's fingerprint; I believe Takagi matched it with shinichi's but still can't make a conclusion since conan and shinichi seemingly share a close relationship.( shinichi may likely touch the cellphone and leave his fingerprints on it) But it may frustrate him since shinichi's fingerprints were all over it.
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