Takagi knows Conan's identity (Theory)

[Stopwatch]

blackgin, that only happened in the anime. In the manga version Akemi died before she could have spoken to Shiho, and manga is canon...

[Detective Kudo]

@Stopwatch Thanks for your points, i was going to say the same thing, but you already posted it. Its like you read my mind

@Chek But Conan does a lot of illegal things

[thorongil]

no.. you're wrong... that appeared in the manga as well.... V18 F180 P15 ...
i'm kinda confused how she could talk with her about that with the few encouters she had before her death though

[Sato]

One thing we know is Satou and Takagi find Conan is an extraordinary kid to be true. Let's say they don't know his identity as Shinichi, but exactly meet Conan when his parents around, they going to say about it as they have instinct based on their interactions. But Takagi isn't persistent to know, and he may mislead us to think he don't know Conan's identity. Conan is bright for his own good and Takagi notice it, he has ask once.

As for Akai's death, it become uncertain, we don't know does he know or really don't know as he's good acting and reliable to keep secrets. But to figure out the story behind the doors, Takagi has evidence and have a choice to discover the truth. Has Conan tell Takagi the fingerprint on cellphone is Shinichi and it belong to Shinichi? Probably he look like he admit the truth but can tell him it's 'not' his cellphone but 'Shinichi'. Takagi is compelled to talk to Conan about deduction as he find it coincidence and already think Conan does sound like Shinichi but everything come out like an elephant has been colour to blend in wallpaper with colour.

Or maybe he wish to know but think there's no need to know if he realized if he know he has to risk his own life protecting the truth. He has to act like Ethan from mission impossible, pretend not to know the truth but pull strings behind the back. If he know, he know what to do and what to say as to ward off suspicion off Conan.

And Conan doesn't mind to reveal himself more to Takagi as he find Takagi is trustworthy to help, probably waiting for him to nail the evidence of Shinichi being shrunken kid. I think Conan want Takagi know the truth and waiting, abide his time.

[Stopwatch]

For a while now (since maybe a bit before he met Yamato) Conan seems have realised just how much he get away with, recently he's really been pushing it though. I reckon that most people who come into contact with him during the last 200 files are all somewhat suspicious of him so Takagi is almost definitely harboring some sort of idea about him. The fact that Takagi trusts Conan enough to let him practically run an investigation when Satou's life is on the line really speaks volumes (the one with Satou hancuffed to the suspect). Admittedly he wasn't aware of the danger for most of the time, but when it's just him and/or Satou they let him do stuff no sane adult should put a child in charge of. Even if they thought he was a genius kid they wouldn't let him 'cause at that age most kids don't handle responsibilty well and wouldn't have the experience to deal with it. So, at the very least they subconsciously must be aware he cannot be an actual seven year old, the question is whether they have consciously adressed it. We know that Takagi had known consciously that Conan wasn't who he said he was during the Matsuda case because he asked Conan, 'Who are you, really?' (it doesn't vary much depending on translation). If we say that he doesn't know that Conan is Shinichi all he needs is something to link Conan and Shinichi together and he's figured it out. The 'Shinichi-kun' thing during Sera's introductory case can't really be interpreted in many other ways than 'Takagi knows' because we've seen absolutely no contact between Shinichi and Takagi since the Shiragami case, when he still called Shinichi 'Kudou-kun'. Plus, Takagi was obviously suprised so it's unlikely he had time to think to call him something else, like when Hattori is suprised and says 'Kudou' instead of 'Conan-kun'. Last point is that it is very unlikely to be a mistake on Aoyama's part because the way characters talk about each other has so much significance and I'm sure he checks through for mistakes, also, considering it was the first case with Sera I think he really wouldn't want to mess it up.
Wow, that turned out longer than expected...

[blackgin]

blackgin, that only happened in the anime. In the manga version Akemi died before she could have spoken to Shiho, and manga is canon...

Are talking about Ai Haibara first appearance? 

[Shuusgirl]

So, at the very least they subconsciously must be aware he cannot be an actual seven year old, the question is whether they have consciously adressed it.

I think that's at the heart of the matter.  Takagi has obviously addressed it with the whole "who are you really?", but Satou almost seems to just go with the whole "he's incredibly smart" and leaves it at that.  However, I agree with Borealis, in that Takagi might think it's a little deeper than he's willing to go.

@Stopwatch Thanks for your points, i was going to say the same thing, but you already posted it. Its like you read my mind

@Chek But Conan does a lot of illegal things

He does, but I can't think of a time he's made someone else do something illegal for him.  He seems to take the responsibility.  (Although as a child, he can get away with a lot more).

[blackgin]

So, at the very least they subconsciously must be aware he cannot be an actual seven year old, the question is whether they have consciously adressed it.

I think that's at the heart of the matter.  Takagi has obviously addressed it with the whole "who are you really?", but Satou almost seems to just go with the whole "he's incredibly smart" and leaves it at that.  However, I agree with Borealis, in that Takagi might think it's a little deeper than he's willing to go.

@Stopwatch Thanks for your points, i was going to say the same thing, but you already posted it. Its like you read my mind

@Chek But Conan does a lot of illegal things

He does, but I can't think of a time he's made someone else do something illegal for him.  He seems to take the responsibility.  (Although as a child, he can get away with a lot more).

I remember it well. 

So far, there's doesn't seem any signs from Takagi that shows his suspicions and pursuing.

The questions is when will it rise? 

[Sato]

Probably Takagi realize Conan is in deep involvement and don't know which enemy he's up against.

[blackgin]

Probably Takagi realize Conan is in deep involvement and don't know which enemy he's up against.

If its true, I afraid there's no signs of being curious, interest or suspicion on both anime or manga on Takagi's face. 

[Dus]

Yes there is. When Shinichi "called" and Cpnan was there (Sera's first appearance) Takagi seemed confused and mildly distraught.

[blackgin]

blackgin, that only happened in the anime. In the manga version Akemi died before she could have spoken to Shiho, and manga is canon...

Can you show the manga that prove your claim?

I read the manga of the 1 billion yen heist case.

Akemi hired a taxi driver and a strong man.

The strong man killed the taxi driver for double crossing them.

The strong man was killed by poison drink by Akemi.

Finally Akemi was killed by Gin at the Piper or Docks.

Ai Haibara first appear have shows at two cases:

The Counterfeit Case and Masami Hirota Murder Case.

Ai Haibara is having a flashback during the Masami Hirota Murder Case about She and her sister having a conversation about Conan Edogawa and Shinichi Kudo at a coffee shop then a day or two later she read the paper that her sister is dead. She even saw the photo of Conan standing at body along with Ran, Mouri, the police and the paramedics.

This is the manga that I read.

[Stopwatch]

Ah, I found it, this page, right?

Anyway, back on topic... sorta, Conan has obviously lost all traces of subtleness he once had, agreed?

Fixed your link - Abs.

[Dus]

Ever since Diana Kingston first appeared he completely stopped giving a s***.
my theory: He's getting bored with how slowly the plot is progressing and wants the BO to find out. Unfortunately, neither Diana nor Sera were BO.

[blackgin]

Ah, I found it, [url=http://"http://www.mangareader.net/139-8226-15/detective-conan/chapter-180.html"]this page, right?[/url]

Anyway, back on topic... sorta, Conan has obviously lost all traces of subtleness he once had, agreed?

Takagi seemed to suspect Conan is another person. 

He probably didn't pursue it because he probably thinks he just one smart kid. 

If Takagi ever get Conan's fingerprints and found out that he is really Shinichi Kudo. 

He'll probably saying something like "I'm ready to go to the looney bin because this is not possible".