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AbEgho wrote: Okay, this riddle has almost the same principle as the last one I posted; there is background information, and you need to find them out.

Person A goes to Person B. Person A then becomes very happy. Person A goes back, and while he's on the way, he kills himself..
Why did person A kill himself?
Spoiler: Questions
Note: I'm using the short forms 'A' and 'B' in place of 'Person A' and 'Person B'

1) Did A and B meet?
2) Did A interact with B?
3) Did A talk to B?
4) Did A touch B?
5) Did A see B?
6) Did A give something to B?
7) Did A receive something from B?
8) Would figuring out how A killed himself help us solve the riddle?
9) Can we solve the riddle without figuring out how A killed himself?
10) Did A kill himself on purpose?
11) Was there something A was mistaken about that caused him to want to kill himself?
12) Is it important for us to find out where A killed himself?
13) Is it important for us to find out where A and B met?
14) Is it important for us to find out why A became very happy?
15) Is A's happiness euphoria?
16) Is A's happiness contentment?
17) Is A's happiness satisfaction?
18) Is A's happiness a sense of being loved?
19) Is A's happiness a feeling of acceptance or respect?
20) Is A's happiness due to taking some substance?
21) Is A's happiness the result of learning some news?
22) Is A's happiness the result of a realization?
23) Is A's happiness the result of a deception?
24) Does B wish for A to kill himself?
25) Is B alive when A and B meet?
26) Is B alive when A kills himself?
27) For the purposes of this riddle, do we need to concern ourselves with B's whereabouts aside from where A and B meet?
28) Is time of day important?
29) Is A's occupation important?
30) Is B's occupation important?
31) Is this too many questions?
32) Is the answer to this question 'no'?
33) Is Jd- really a red panda in disguise?
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c-square, I think you already solved the riddle with your last question.
And the 32nd one... is just... you know?

On another note - the Brain-Frying Riddle #4 is coming nicely... It's going to be amazing and feature new characters... My Brain-Frying Universe is expanding!
The Brain-Frying Riddle #4 - The Vice-President's Scheme
coming soon...
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Looking forward to the brain frying one!

I feel almost bad for AbEgho... he has a lot of questions to answer when he gets back...

Meanwhile...
Spoiler:
I'll keep it to two questions, (since c-square stole the rest of mine):
1) Did person A want to kill himself?
2) Did person B wish for A to die?
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You know, I wonder where Kogorou is... Haven't seen him here for quite a long time now. And there's no way I can publish my BFR#4 without him around.
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AbEgho wrote: Okay, this riddle has almost the same principle as the last one I posted; there is background information, and you need to find them out.

Person A goes to Person B. Person A then becomes very happy. Person A goes back, and while he's on the way, he kills himself..
Why did person A kill himself?
I'm gonna try this one ;)
Spoiler: My attempt
A went to Person B for a gun/killing device. B complied, gave A such a device. Thus, on the way back A used it
Heh~ I'm horrible at deduction :B
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Anybody else uses this link:
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=5201.new#new
to keep track of what's going on here?
Just thought I'd recommend it - it shows the first unread post in the thread, making it very convenient. No more "where did I end reading last time..?".
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Okay let's get started.......
eworm wrote: Yes/No questions again? A slight difference is that I will be a bit more flexible answering wh- questions.
Spoiler:
1. Are A and B humans? Yes. Just because the riddle is similar, doesn't mean you have to imitate c-square :P.
2. Is A a woman? (guess not since you said "he" killed himself but...). No; self-explanatory.
3. Is B a woman? It matters not; and I haven't personally thought about it, but since I'm a natural male-chauvinist, B is a man.
4. Did B die before A? No.
5. Was B in a hospital? Yes

Wow, c-square! You're really working yourself up; what I find puzzling, though, is the fact that after you ply me with questions, you abruptly abscond without any trace!
c-square wrote:
Spoiler: Questions & Answers
Note: I'm using the short forms 'A' and 'B' in place of 'Person A' and 'Person B'

1) Did A and B meet? Yes.
2) Did A interact with B? Yes.
3) Did A talk to B? Yes.
4) Did A touch B? Yes.
5) Did A see B? Yes.
6) Did A give something to B? Yes.
7) Did A receive something from B? Yes.
8) Would figuring out how A killed himself help us solve the riddle? Almost irrelevent; No.
9) Can we solve the riddle without figuring out how A killed himself? Yes.
10) Did A kill himself on purpose? Yes.
11) Was there something A was mistaken about that caused him to want to kill himself? Yes!!!!! You never cease to amaze me, c-square!
12) Is it important for us to find out where A killed himself? Yes
13) Is it important for us to find out where A and B met? Yes
14) Is it important for us to find out why A became very happy? Yes
15) Is A's happiness euphoria? Very comparable to such.
16) Is A's happiness contentment? more like satisfaction
17) Is A's happiness satisfaction? Definitely
18) Is A's happiness a sense of being loved? No
19) Is A's happiness a feeling of acceptance or respect? Acceptance, partially.
20) Is A's happiness due to taking some substance? No, that's called tripping.
21) Is A's happiness the result of learning some news? No.
22) Is A's happiness the result of a realization? Maybe, not fully.
23) Is A's happiness the result of a deception? No. (but still a clever Dick, who is versed in philosophy, would argue otherwise)
24) Does B wish for A to kill himself? No? At least he shouldn't; still, irrelevant.
25) Is B alive when A and B meet? Yes. (this question gave me the creeps, for some reason, when I answered it!)
26) Is B alive when A kills himself? Yes, or otherwise irrelevant.
27) For the purposes of this riddle, do we need to concern ourselves with B's whereabouts aside from where A and B meet? No
28) Is time of day important? At which instance?
29) Is A's occupation important? No.
30) Is B's occupation important? Yes.
31) Is this too many questions? No
32) Is the answer to this question 'no'? No, it's actually 'No, it's actually "No, it's actually 'No, it's actually "No, it's actually 'No, it's actually... ...'"'"'. 
Anyways, you get the point!
33)Is Jd- really a red panda in disguise? Opinions are divided on the matter.
Mystery Otaku wrote: Looking forward to the brain frying one!

I feel almost bad for AbEgho... he has a lot of questions to answer when he gets back...I suppose I sealed my fate when I offered the riddle!

Meanwhile...
Spoiler:
I'll keep it to two questions, (since c-square stole the rest of mine):
1) Did person A want to kill himself? Be more specific; when?
2) Did person B wish for A to die?No; see c-square qusetion no. 24
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AbEgho wrote: Okay, this riddle has almost the same principle as the last one I posted; there is background information, and you need to find them out.

Person A goes to Person B. Person A then becomes very happy. Person A goes back, and while he's on the way, he kills himself..
Why did person A kill himself?
I'm gonna try this one ;)
Spoiler: My attempt
A went to Person B for a gun/killing device. B complied, gave A such a device. Thus, on the way back A used it
Heh~ I'm horrible at deduction :B
No, but nice try, though; he'd certainly be happy for the circumstance you suggested!
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Spoiler:
11) Was there something A was mistaken about that caused him to want to kill himself? Yes!!!!! You never cease to amaze me, c-square!
Oh, come on, that was fairly obvious from the start - first very happy, next killing himself.
Spoiler:
1. Is B a doctor?
2. Was A sick when he killed himself?
3. Is the thing A gave B money?
4. Is the thing B gave A money?
5. Is the thing A gave B documents of sort?
6. Is the thing B gave A documents of sort?
7. Is the thing B gave A something that could be used to kill oneself?
8. Are A and B related somehow (I mean family relations)?
9. Did A see something on his way back that caused him to want to kill himself?
10. Did A hear something on his way back that caused him to want to kill himself?
11. Did A meet somebody on his way back?
12. Did B do something against the law?
13. Did A lie to B?
14. Did B lie to A?
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eworm wrote: Anybody else uses this link:
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=5201.new#new
to keep track of what's going on here?
Just thought I'd recommend it - it shows the first unread post in the thread, making it very convenient. No more "where did I end reading last time..?".
tnx for the link, i have been tired of going to the forum, fining this thread then looking for the last post,
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eworm wrote:
Spoiler:
11) Was there something A was mistaken about that caused him to want to kill himself? Yes!!!!! You never cease to amaze me, c-square!
Oh, come on, that was fairly obvious from the start - first very happy, next killing himself.
If it were obvious, why hadn't you ask about it? You did ask about A's gender, which was more than obvious!!

eworm wrote:
Spoiler:
1. Is B a doctor? Yes
2. Was A sick when he killed himself? Irrelevant; No.
3. Is the thing A gave B money? Yes, consequently.
4. Is the thing B gave A money? No
5. Is the thing A gave B documents of sort? No
6. Is the thing B gave A documents of sort? No
7. Is the thing B gave A something that could be used to kill oneself?No. At least not directly....
8. Are A and B related somehow (I mean family relations)?No
9. Did A see something on his way back that caused him to want to kill himself? No
10. Did A hear something on his way back that caused him to want to kill himself? No
11. Did A meet somebody on his way back? of relevance, no.
12. Did B do something against the law? Well, suicide is a crime, believe it or not; at least, attempting it is!
13. Did A lie to B? of relevance, no.
14. Did B lie to A? of relavence, no.
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Spoiler:
12. Did B do something against the law? Well, suicide is a crime, believe it or not; at least, attempting it is!
Wait, what? B too?
If it were obvious, why hadn't you ask about it? You did ask about A's gender, which was more than obvious!!
Simple - I always consider an option "the riddlemaker made a mistake" - so I just confirmed if your using "he" was correct. I, on the other hand, make no mistakes *eworm's laughter*.
Spoiler:
Was A giving B the money because B was forcing him to?
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eworm wrote: Anybody else uses this link:
http://forums.dctp.ws/viewtopic.php?t=5201.new#new
to keep track of what's going on here?
Just thought I'd recommend it - it shows the first unread post in the thread, making it very convenient. No more "where did I end reading last time..?".
alternately, you can click the "new" icon that appears next to the thread to skip to the first unread post.

also:
Spoiler:
does the riddle have anything to do with organ transplants? :V
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AbEgho wrote: Wow, c-square! You're really working yourself up; what I find puzzling, though, is the fact that after you ply me with questions, you abruptly abscond without any trace!
Sorry about that.  By the time I had returned last time, the riddle had already been solved!  :D

Okay, let's see what we know:
Spoiler: Previously Answered Questions
1) Was B in a hospital? Yes
2) Is B a doctor? Yes
3) Did A give something to B? Yes
4) Is the thing A gave B money? Yes, consequently
5) Did A receive something from B? Yes
6) Is the thing B gave A documents of sort? No
7) Is the thing B gave A something that could be used to kill oneself?No. At least not directly....
8) Was there something A was mistaken about that caused him to want to kill himself? Yes
9) Is it important for us to find out where A killed himself? Yes
10) Is it important for us to find out why A became very happy? Yes
11) Is A's happiness satisfaction? Definitely
12) Is A's happiness the result of learning some news? No
13) Is A's happiness the result of a deception? No
14) Is time of day important? At which instance?
From this, I have the following questions:
Spoiler: More Questions!
1) Did A give something other than money to B?
2) Did A receive a physical object from B?
3) Did A receive something organic from B?
4) Did A receive something living from B?
5) Did A receive medication from B?
6) Was A in the hospital for less than 10 minutes?
7) Wes A in the hospital for less than 30 minutes?
8) Was A in the hospital for less than an hour?
9) Was A in the hospital for more than two hours?
10) Did A receive some kind of medical assistance or procedure?
11) Did A receive some kind of surgical procedure?
12) Was A happy because of what he received from B?
13) Was A happy because of the specific instance of that thing he received from B?
14) Was A still happy when he decided to kill himself?
15) If no, is it important for us to determine why A became unhappy?
16) Would A have been happy if he had received another similar but different instance of the thing from B?
17) Was A mistaken about the identity of the thing he received from B?
18) Was A mistaken about the identity of B?
19) Was A mistaken about the details of an event in the past?
20) Was A mistaken about the implications that arose from his/her interaction with B?
21) Do family relations play any part in this riddle?
22) Is time of day important at all in this riddle?
Also, I have this strange feeling Akonyl's on to something...
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eworm wrote:
Spoiler:
12. Did B do something against the law? Well, suicide is a crime, believe it or not; at least, attempting it is!
Wait, what? B too?
OH CRAP, I MEANT A, IT'S A. I WAS CONFUSING B WITH A HERE.
I'm very sorry, everyone!

And the appropriate answer to that, B hasn't committed a crime of relevance to the riddle.

Now back to answering.
eworm wrote:
Spoiler:
Was A giving B the money because B was forcing him to? No.
Akonyl wrote:
Spoiler:
does the riddle have anything to do with organ transplants? possibly, but not an entire organ
c-square wrote:
Spoiler: More Questions & Answers!
1) Did A give something other than money to B? Of importance, no.
2) Did A receive a physical object from B? perhaps
3) Did A receive something organic from B? perhaps
4) Did A receive something living from B? perhaps
5) Did A receive medication from B? No
6) Was A in the hospital for less than 10 minutes? No
7) Wes A in the hospital for less than 30 minutes? No
8) Was A in the hospital for less than an hour? No
9) Was A in the hospital for more than two hours? N/A
10) Did A receive some kind of medical assistance or procedure? Yes
11) Did A receive some kind of surgical procedure? Yes
12) Was A happy because of what he received from B? Yes
13) Was A happy because of the specific instance of that thing he received from B? Yes
14) Was A still happy when he decided to kill himself? No
15) If no, is it important for us to determine why A became unhappy? Yes
16) Would A have been happy if he had received another similar but different instance of the thing from B? re-word...
17) Was A mistaken about the identity of the thing he received from B? not identity
18) Was A mistaken about the identity of B? No
19) Was A mistaken about the details of an event in the past? No
20) Was A mistaken about the implications that arose from his/her interaction with B? Yes
21) Do family relations play any part in this riddle? NO
22) Is time of day important at all in this riddle? In some instances, yes.
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Okay, there's no need to yell :)
Spoiler:
Did A killed himself because he thought he was going to die anyway?
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