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I don't think there were any other noticeable hints aside from when Eisuke was introduced and he purposely fell.
And the police should be able to access Shinichi's fingerprints, but if they ever had Conan's fingerprints, something odd should've come up.
Which might also lead to the question how the police (or specifically Takagi) knew that Jodie and Conan's fingerprints were on the phone. Jodie was present at the time, but were Conan's fingerprints simply determined by size or something else? If it was not just by size, how would they be able to discover that the fingerprints were Conan's, but not Shinichi's?
Shinichi's fingerprints might not be on material evidence, though. He's usually quite careful to use a cloth.
A Detective Conan & Magic Kaito Role Playing Game.
Characters particularly wanted for the RPG: Edogawa Conan/Kudo Shinichi, Mouri Ran, Haibara Ai/Miyano Shiho Mouri Kogoro, Jodie Starling, Hattori Heiji, Toyama Kazuha, Satou Miwako, Takagi Wataru, Kir, Snake and Gin.
In the red horse murders, didn't the police take Kogoro, Heiji and Conan's fingerprints and shoe prints? Or was it just shoes?
Also, yeah Shinichi's careful, but what happens if the proof is, "I touched (object) when I came into the room. How do you suddenly have it? If you check for my fingerprints..." Or the cases where he's not wearing gloves/handkerchief before the murder happens?
And what about when he's little with his dad at crime scenes? He'd probably touch stuff he shouldn't before he really understood what was going on. Shouldn't they at least have his little-self-fingerprints on file?
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." --Sherlock Holmes
Yeah Kogoro, did you read this one?
In case anyone is interested I have found some other instances that show that Eisuke knew who Conan was or was at least suspicious. If you're not interested just skip this post . Sorry if the links don't work.
I'm too lazy to go find more. This just shows that there are lots of subtle hints, sort of like the ones people already mentioned for Takagi. Hope this helps anyone who was interested.
I don't think there were any other noticeable hints aside from when Eisuke was introduced and he purposely fell.
And the police should be able to access Shinichi's fingerprints, but if they ever had Conan's fingerprints, something odd should've come up.
Which might also lead to the question how the police (or specifically Takagi) knew that Jodie and Conan's fingerprints were on the phone. Jodie was present at the time, but were Conan's fingerprints simply determined by size or something else? If it was not just by size, how would they be able to discover that the fingerprints were Conan's, but not Shinichi's?
Shinichi's fingerprints might not be on material evidence, though. He's usually quite careful to use a cloth.
Yeah, it would be impossible to ID Conan's prints without also having Shinichi's come up as a result. And I think the police would have access to either a database or actual medical files regarding the fingerprints.
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In case anyone is interested I have found some other instances that show that Eisuke knew who Conan was or was at least suspicious. If you're not interested just skip this post . Sorry if the links don't work.
I'm too lazy to go find more. This just shows that there are lots of subtle hints, sort of like the ones people already mentioned for Takagi. Hope this helps anyone who was interested.
Ah, I see. I really should rewatch stuff to pick up on the subtle stuff. I usually notice it, then forget it as I watch more and more.
Thought this for a while, ever since the Matsuda case. The fact that he asked Conan who he was right before Takagi and Conan were going to die (supposedly), means that Takagi caught that A) Conan is not who he says he is, B) He had thought this for a while but was courteous of Conan and didn't ask in public, and C) He is respecting Conan by asking when it would matter anymore (he thought). (Can I just say that I love love love Takagi??!?!?!?)
LOL ErixTakagi
It would be awesome Takagi actually knew that much but I can't shake the feeling that if he did, thye would have dedicated a case to it somehow by now... It seems more probable to me... that (if Gosho can't spare a chapter before) it will be lightly adressed in the chapters going to the final confrontation when probably Conan will ask something of Takagi that no nomrla 7th year old would... Granted this is no more than wild speculation
I have to say I'm a huge fan of this theory. I'm a big Takagi fan and I'm glad he's finally getting the credit for his suspicions. The fact that he's basically the only one to do fingerprints (as far as I can remember; Megure-keibu often hands the evidence to him to process) could be a possible reason why no one else has noticed - or they just don't check further than 'these are Conan's/Shinichi's prints so we can eliminate them from the scene'. Anyway, that's just my speculation.
"A thief is a creative artist who takes his prey in style but a detective is nothing more than a critic who follows our footsteps."
-Kaitou KID
Apparently Conan had forgotten he was pretty much a walking, talking example of Murphy's Law.
-Narrator about Conan Edogawa. Quote from fanfiction "Floral Delights" on fanfiction.net
DaisukeKazamatsuri wrote:
I have to say I'm a huge fan of this theory. I'm a big Takagi fan and I'm glad he's finally getting the credit for his suspicions. The fact that he's basically the only one to do fingerprints (as far as I can remember; Megure-keibu often hands the evidence to him to process) could be a possible reason why no one else has noticed - or they just don't check further than 'these are Conan's/Shinichi's prints so we can eliminate them from the scene'. Anyway, that's just my speculation.
That's true, he does handle all the evidence. Ooooh, now I want more Takagi!!! I mean, I want him in the manga even more than I normally want him...which is a lot...ok I'm done.
But why wouldn't he be like, "Conan, I'm going to need to talk to you in private" and confront him?
"I have no data yet. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." --Sherlock Holmes
Yeah Kogoro, did you read this one?
That's true, he does handle all the evidence. Ooooh, now I want more Takagi!!! I mean, I want him in the manga even more than I normally want him...which is a lot...ok I'm done.
But why wouldn't he be like, "Conan, I'm going to need to talk to you in private" and confront him?
Because that would require Takagi to be A) 100% positive and B) Assertive. Which, when he's not dealing with murderers, he's not.
Yukimi wrote:
LOL ErixTakagi
It would be awesome Takagi actually knew that much but I can't shake the feeling that if he did, thye would have dedicated a case to it somehow by now... It seems more probable to me... that (if Gosho can't spare a chapter before) it will be lightly adressed in the chapters going to the final confrontation when probably Conan will ask something of Takagi that no nomrla 7th year old would... Granted this is no more than wild speculation
if this theory is true, maybe gosho just didn't want to address it so that when takagi finally comes up and is like "hey kudo, we have stuff to do" we'll be like "OH SNAP, HELL YEAH TAKAGI!"