Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

[eworm]

Okay, I'm waiting patiently, but what about the rest of you, brave detectives?
Especially you, Edogawa4869, you haven't sent me any deduction yet...

I probably never mentioned that my hobby is writing? Right now I'm totally going to make a short detective story out of this riddle.

I'd rather you to solve it without my help... But here's a little hint. Open only if you're at your wits' end:

Spoiler: HINT

Okay, so you're desperate? Then accept this little hint from me:
There is some love involved... Though there are many kinds of love, aren't there?
...
Hey, I told you it was a little hint!

[Kogorou]

I finally found the thing that bugged me the whole time

[eworm]

You found... me?    Okay, should I get ready for your next deduction, Kogorou?

Okay, people... I mean - brave detectives... I've already written the deduction-answer out of pure boredom, so feel free to give up anytime 

Maybe I'm stalling the thread too much? It used to be more lively with those short and easy riddles, didn't it?

[Kogorou]

Sure but this is fun.
I have a deduction and another....

[Edogawa4869]

Yeah, my life is waaaaaay too busy.

I've got some ideas, but it isn't clear.  I'll give you a deduction later.

[eworm]

Ultimate Deduction Showdown Competitors:
- xpon (1 try)
- Kogorou (2 tries)
- Edogawa4869
- Tanner-kun (1 try)
- Akonyl (2 tries)

A new detective! New deductions!
I'm really curious who will be victorious... We're going to decide the forum's greatest detective ha ha!

[eworm]

It's been a week since I posted the riddle...
Are we going to set up a time limit or play until somebody deduct right? I'm fine with both, I think.

Waiting impatiently for new deductions~ Ganbatte, brave detectives! Fight-o, fight-o!

[xpon]

sorry..... life and paper work caught me................

[Akonyl]

I lost interest, tbh, so at the very least you probly shouldn't expect one from me

[eworm]

Too bad... Okay, one competitor down... But the show must go on!

Ultimate Deduction Showdown Competitors:
- xpon (1 try)
- Kogorou (2 tries)
- Edogawa4869
- Tanner-kun (1 try)

- Akonyl (2 tries - resigned)

[Kogorou]

This Show will continue for another week or this thread will die.

The Riddle isn't solved right?
So for the sake of this Thread (which we violated in many way of the given rules ) I think it's best to do so.
I hope you will give us more Riddles but the next time we stick to the Rules

[eworm]

The riddle remains unsolved, indeed.
Which rules have we violated? Except for the spoiler tagging the answers being replaced with PMing them...

OKAY, GUYS!

What about the BIG-MAYBE-CLUE to celebrate the one week anniversary? I offer you all the deductions I've received so far. What do you say? Maybe it'll help you - or maybe it'll confuse you even further? Tell me if you want it!

[Kogorou]

I didn't mean to cancel it I just want to spice it up a little.
We spend a lot of time on this one (because not everyone has 24/7 time to work on this like me now ).

It would totally confuse me to read deduction who wouldn't fit in the pattern but it's a way to go.
Put them in Spoilertags please.

[eworm]

Just a minute till I prepare the deductions maybe-hint...

[eworm]

It's time to take a look at the competitors' deductions so far. Here we go, in chronological order.

Spoiler: xpon

The dying message is Keyboard.. so it Mariya Yuki

Spoiler: Tanner-kun

He was stabbed from behind so he never saw the culprits or had time to leave a clue so the "ke" isn't related to the culprit. Since Kentaro Akito isn't around he most likely saw the body, so the culprit left before him. That leaves Tsukamoto Keiko, and Mariya Yuki. Since keiko is new she most likely wouldn't have any motivation to kill him. So the culprit is Mariya Yuki.

I probably got it wrong. xD

Spoiler: Kogorou 1

eworm: Prepare for a looong reading, people!

Facts:
Monday morning.

Suspects in several rooms, working on same project,
occasionally visiting the prof
night watchman in building, patroulling

Where does the knife come from? Who brought it?

Prof. Kentaro Akihisa  -
Sitting at his desk - after beeing stabbed in the back he must have fallen on this desk before collapsing
ambidextrous,
One pen in his right hand (very tight) the others in his left (5)
The pencils in his hands are also very intersting because there are 5 in his left hand and only one in his right.
That indicates that the prof was writing with his right hand before he was murdered. Still the question remains how the five pencils
got in his right one because nobody would hold five pens when he has the chance to write something.
Six pens is one too much! There are five people in the building. four who use pens and one who uses her PC to write.
His notepad (on his deskt is clean) "ke" can be read.
Ke can't be Kentaro because a father wouldn't write the surname of his own son.
If the prof had written on that notepad there would be blood on it!
But the first page was removed
Because the desk was covered in blood the notepad must have been placed there afterwards.
good with Englisch (ke maybe not (hiragana/katakana) => something/someone that/who was known by the prof
stabbed on front and back
The stabs in the torso can only happen if the was attacked from the front => maybe he tried to defend his
Son from the culprit.(1) That means that the stabs in his back only forced him to fall on his desk that explains the blood.
After he saw his son beeing attacked he forced himself to jump between the culprit and his Son. This forced the Culprit into
a Rage that lead to the several stabbing wounds. And due to this he collapsed on the floor.

Kentaro Akito -
son of the prof (may know more things about the project)
seems to get along with his dad very well because he works with him
It can't be said that he left because nobody saw him. Maybe the prof but he is dead.
wouldn't leave without saying good night => dad was alive when Kentaro left or already dead and Akito left in shock
(no son would say nothing about a dead/dying father)
left last
disappeard tuesday
His son went missing because he saw the culprit or wittnessed something important.
Only his figerprints were found on the knife => he has picked it up.
Maybe we struggled with the Culprit and was attacked during the fight.
1: Was maybe saved by his father
Maybe the knife was still in his fathers body and he pulled it out.

Mariya Yuki -
only uses her P.C. to write things down
portalbe computer - PC - small notebook
maybe she doesn't want her handwriting to be recognized or has some kind of disorder.
left after Keiko

Tsukamoto Keiko -
started recently as the profs assistant.
left first
Isn't it strange that the newbie goes first? Normally newbies are totally overpowerd and want to leave a good impression.
So she wanted everyone to notice that she is going home. => She had something important to do.

Shimida Eiji  -
watchman
maybe criminal record
found the dead prof at 1AM after he wanted to make him leave
The watchman didn't have a criminal background - first nobody with a criminal background can't be employed in a security job and
the Police would have found out about it.
If he was normally patrolling the university he must have checked on the prof more often than once at 1AM.
Given his statement that he tried to make the prof FINALLY leave he must have been there at least twice: around 1AM and earlier.
That means the prof was still alive when the watchman was visiting him for the first time.
The only funny thing is his name: Eiji with means european letter (aka ASCII 7-bit)

The only person who can proof that she left is the first Tsukamoto Keiko because she has a witness -> Mariya Yuki but this person can say that she#
left second because Kentaro Akito is nowhere to be found and would be the only person who could ruin her statement.

Given the fact that the nightwatchman didn't give any other statements makes him super suspicous!
He should be able to give any detail of what happened. He even should have seen the people leaving.
After the x times he asked the prof to leave he went crazy and hurried out to make sure that the profs personal is gone.
After seeing that Keiko left he jumped to the conclusion that the other two where also gone and went back to the profs room to murder him.
He stabbed the prof who fell over onto his desk covering it in blood. The watchman thought that the prof was dead but the prof was able to
write "Keeper" in his notepad. Keeper => Guard => Watchman
Not aware of the situation the guard went towards the door where he bumped into Akito.
The knife still in his hand he tried to kill him to but Akito is a good fighter and managed to push him back.
He knocked the prof out of his chair who woke up again seeing that his son is beeing attacked.
The prof forced himself in front of the victim beeing stabbed in the tosro.
The guard knocks the prof back down and is attacked by Akito who unarms the watchman by grabbing onto the knife => only the Sons fingerprints because
the Watchman has gloves on.
After beeing disarmed Akito was knocked out two and locked away.
The Guard sees that the prof had written something and got rid of the evidence (the only person to thing clearly enough for that)
He placed some more pens in the profs left hand to confuse everybody and left.
So the real culprit is Shimida Eiji the night watchman.

eworm: It's guessing. Not much to back up the theory, even after analysing the facts so thoroughly. But Kogorou shows promise  ;D

Spoiler: Kogorou 2

The true Culprit, the Mastermind, behind this case is Tsukamoto Keiko - who has a secrect crush on Akito.
The whole thing is pretty sad.

The fact that the Prof was sitting in his chair when he was attacked shows us that he was awaiting someone and that was Keiko who wanted to talk to him.
Keiko has a crush on Akito but the Prof doesn't allow relationships between his assistants. He talked that over with All three of them because he found out that Akito and Yuki were having a relationship. Keiko knows that too and she decided to frame Yuki for the Murder that's why she wrote Keyboard on the topmost sheet of the notepad.
After a few hours the son comes around to talk some sense into his father and founds him dead. Seeing the keyboard writing he snaps and things that it is impossible for his Yuki to do something like that. To confuse the investigation he stabs his father lying on his desk in the back and getting rid of the topmost cover is only logical.
Afterwards he vanishes to talk to Keiko never appearing again.

eworm: Another interesting theory from Mouri Kogorou. It might have happened - but we can't know for sure. Not the deduction we're seeking. xpon's Keyboard strikes again. BTW isn't it interesting how Akito suddenly becomes the bad son, while he was such a good one in the previous deduction?  ;)

Spoiler: Akonyl 1

one of the more important parts is that the notepad doesn't have any blood on it, meaning it was placed there after the murder and probably isn't the victim's at all. The notepad either belongs to the son or Keiko, because Yuki wouldn't have one as she uses a computer. As it's not the professor's, but still contains a "dying message", it's probably due to whoever left it covering up for the real murderer. Because the order of their leaving was Keiko, Yuki, Akito, Keiko couldn't have found the body after the original murderer to leave her notepad, this leaves the one who covered up the murder to be Kentaro Akito himself, which is also why he fled the scene afterward.

As you hinted at love being part of the riddle, and there's a cover-up involved, it's probable that Akito was covering up for someone he loved. Which, leaving out brotherly love of long-lost-brothers or homosexual love, negates the night watchman from being the true murderer.

This leaves the two women to be the possible murder suspects, and the conditions of the victim's death. There's the issue of the pens (which, I'm guessing is an English-related dying message but I can't find out what it is), and the fact that he was stabbed from behind, even though he was sitting at his desk in his office, where people would normally be in front of him (not to mention, if he's sitting in a chair, a back-attack should be impossible aside from the neck), so he probably has some relationship with the killer as well. Love triangle omg?!

it is also possible that the notepad is in fact the president's notepad as the first page was ripped off (is there traces of blood on the sides of the notepad?), meaning it was supposed to say "Keiko" in the first place.


so I'm going with the murderer being Keiko. How close am I? :V

Spoiler: Akonyl 2

eworm: (After clearing up the fact that assistants were informing both themselves and the professor when leaving...)

Anyway, that would then make the murderer/lover Yuki then, because if Yuki was innocent and Keiko was the culprit, Yuki would have seen the body and flipped out about it. So:
-Keiko said goodbye to the prof and left
-Yuki came in and murdered him from the front and he bloodied his desk
-The Son came in and saw the body, stabbed it himself in the back and got his fingerprints on the blade, drops his notepad at the scene and attempts to implicate himself with it

at this point the only question that remains is the pens, however I think that situation's a complete red herring set up by the son. First off, there would have been no notebook to write on at the time, and the professor has no reason to have pens in both of his hands. If I was the professor, and I was trying to write out a dying message, I would put one hand on my chest and then write with the other: If he had pens in both of his hands, then chances are, someone else posed him that way. And if I was going to use both hands with my ambidextrousness to write something, I wouldn't use five pens at once.

Unless, of course, all three of them were in on it, but if every suspect in a DC case was the culprit then many of the cases could go unsolved  :P

eworm: Just like Kogorou's previous deduction "Akito stabbed the dead body". Oh, Akito, detectives don't like you. But maybe it's true? I'm not saying anything.

Does it help? Or does it make things even worse?