DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
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takiko
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DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
So I need DC scenes which defied laws and principle of Science/Physics. I'll really appreciate it if you help me out. We kind of need it in school. XD
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Jd-
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
Movie 5 finale. I don't care what anybody (including Haibara) says--my favorite Conan movie or not, that had no basis in reality. 
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kyuuketsuki
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
Oh dear lord... most of the movies have some form of physics defying action...
M4 Ran breaking a knife... (Possible only if the wielder of the knife is strong enough to oppose the force of the kick, and the load force of the wrist is simply not strong enough to do that, unless the knife is REALLY REALLY brittle)
M13 the whole light thing at the end of the movie.... can't explain that still...
ANY scene of a person dodging a bullet... I believe Makato did that... At close range or long range, no matter what anyone says.... it is impossible to dodge a bullet. (Not unless the gun is shaking and the distance is far enough for that to make a difference)
M4 (again) Conan's skateboard run.
I'm sure there are more... but I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.
M4 Ran breaking a knife... (Possible only if the wielder of the knife is strong enough to oppose the force of the kick, and the load force of the wrist is simply not strong enough to do that, unless the knife is REALLY REALLY brittle)
M13 the whole light thing at the end of the movie.... can't explain that still...
ANY scene of a person dodging a bullet... I believe Makato did that... At close range or long range, no matter what anyone says.... it is impossible to dodge a bullet. (Not unless the gun is shaking and the distance is far enough for that to make a difference)
M4 (again) Conan's skateboard run.
I'm sure there are more... but I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.
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Suutashi
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
Akai shooting Gin (well grazed) from seven hundred yards away through Gin's rifle scope. The lenses in the scope would've stopped the bullet in its tracks if it was fired even from a short distance, let alone seven hundred yards away.
This isn't quite physics but Vermouth causing a car is explode by shooting its gas tank just creates more 'Myth Busting' fuel.
This isn't quite physics but Vermouth causing a car is explode by shooting its gas tank just creates more 'Myth Busting' fuel.
That and Conan jumping the gap between the two buildings on the dang skateboard.Jd- wrote: Movie 5 finale. I don't care what anybody (including Haibara) says--my favorite Conan movie or not, that had no basis in reality.
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User 4869
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
Camel, sit in a car, wait a bomb on his shirt's pocket to goes off, and then jump of the car without anybody (who looking) notice.
Conan, Haibara's transform scene LoL.
Conan, Haibara's transform scene LoL.
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dilbertschalter
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
The transformation is simply the best example. Conan/Haibara can gain or lose huge amounts of matter and the matter goes... nowhere. In reality, there would be a pretty huge explosion. if something like that happened.User 4869 wrote: Camel, sit in a car, wait a bomb on his shirt's pocket to goes off, and then jump of the car without anybody (who looking) notice.
Conan, Haibara's transform scene LoL.
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"The energies of our system will decay; the glory of the sun will be dimmed, and the earth, tideless and inert, will no longer tolerate the race which has for a moment disturbed its solitude. Man will go down into the pit, and all his thoughts will perish. The uneasy consciousness, which in this obscure corner has for a brief space broken the contented silence of the universe, will be at rest. Matter will know itself no longer. 'Imperishable monuments' and 'immortal deeds,' death itself, and love stronger than death, will be as though they had never been."
"The energies of our system will decay; the glory of the sun will be dimmed, and the earth, tideless and inert, will no longer tolerate the race which has for a moment disturbed its solitude. Man will go down into the pit, and all his thoughts will perish. The uneasy consciousness, which in this obscure corner has for a brief space broken the contented silence of the universe, will be at rest. Matter will know itself no longer. 'Imperishable monuments' and 'immortal deeds,' death itself, and love stronger than death, will be as though they had never been."
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Treyvoni
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
Conan and Haibara de-aging is more a problem with biology than physics (after all, you gain and lose mass every day). Mostly because of the RATE at which they do so. Even eternal cancer cells (cancer cells that can divide seemingly indefinitely) cannot replicate that fast. As well, the toll that it would place on the cells in terms of energy needed would be astronomical. They should suffocate and starve at a cellular level. And that's just on the 'growing' part! (Which, as far as I understand is simply rapid aging)
'Shrinking' has even more problems. Unfortunately because I'm not really certain of the method of action I can't refute it. De-aging cells is not something that can be done or explained by current science.
'Shrinking' has even more problems. Unfortunately because I'm not really certain of the method of action I can't refute it. De-aging cells is not something that can be done or explained by current science.
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dilbertschalter
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Yes, you gain and lose mass every day, but not to the degree that Conan and Haibara do. Where does the 35 kg of extra mass come from? Where does it go? You would need a truly immense amount of energy to effect such a transformation.Treyvoni wrote: Conan and Haibara de-aging is more a problem with biology than physics (after all, you gain and lose mass every day). Mostly because of the RATE at which they do so. Even eternal cancer cells (cancer cells that can divide seemingly indefinitely) cannot replicate that fast. As well, the toll that it would place on the cells in terms of energy needed would be astronomical. They should suffocate and starve at a cellular level. And that's just on the 'growing' part! (Which, as far as I understand is simply rapid aging)
'Shrinking' has even more problems. Unfortunately because I'm not really certain of the method of action I can't refute it. De-aging cells is not something that can be done or explained by current science.
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"The energies of our system will decay; the glory of the sun will be dimmed, and the earth, tideless and inert, will no longer tolerate the race which has for a moment disturbed its solitude. Man will go down into the pit, and all his thoughts will perish. The uneasy consciousness, which in this obscure corner has for a brief space broken the contented silence of the universe, will be at rest. Matter will know itself no longer. 'Imperishable monuments' and 'immortal deeds,' death itself, and love stronger than death, will be as though they had never been."
"The energies of our system will decay; the glory of the sun will be dimmed, and the earth, tideless and inert, will no longer tolerate the race which has for a moment disturbed its solitude. Man will go down into the pit, and all his thoughts will perish. The uneasy consciousness, which in this obscure corner has for a brief space broken the contented silence of the universe, will be at rest. Matter will know itself no longer. 'Imperishable monuments' and 'immortal deeds,' death itself, and love stronger than death, will be as though they had never been."
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Treyvoni
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Re: DC Scenes Defying Phyisics
The real answer would be nowhere, as the cells would die of starvation once they ran out of glycogen/glucose that would be needed to fuel mitosis which would produce the cell splitting needed to result in that extra mass.dilbertschalter wrote: Yes, you gain and lose mass every day, but not to the degree that Conan and Haibara do. Where does the 35 kg of extra mass come from? Where does it go? You would need a truly immense amount of energy to effect such a transformation.
As for where it goes, a possible explanation is that the mass is digested by the body in order to fuel the change when it is 'de-aged'. However, that is partially speculation. The body does digest itself in times of poor diet, but it can't change the bone structure to the extent shown in the series.
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Suutashi
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I couldn't resist quoting this from Tv Trope under the Art Major Biology entry....
The whole Apotoxin plot in Detective Conan, which stated the Million To One Chance Fountain Of Youth (and for the other 999,999, poison) acted by initiating an uncontrollable cascade of apoptosis. The apoptosis thing is true, when explained. But where did Haibara and Conan get enough nutrients for their cells to multiply so quickly? And wouldn't their risk for cancer exponentially increase each time they take the antidote? Let alone the antidote... This is critical to the series, mind you.
* Extensive fan research and investigation has been done into the workings of APTX-4869, and the science behind it is more or less sound, if bizarre and improbable. Apoptosis is the natural death cycle of cells. The toxin also causes, in the victims that survive the poison, activation of telomerase. The initial effect of the poison is easy to explain — the body heats up and the rapidly dying cells become vapor. Eventually, the rapid cell regeneration and rapid cell death balance and cancel each other out, resulting in the "turned into a child" effect. Since the cells of the body are then locked into a perpetual cycle of mitosis and apoptosis, and the dying cells are perfectly healthy, the dead cells are most likely re-absorbed by the new dividing cells as nutrients. Then the dividing cells die, and are absorbed by the next generation of cells, and so forth and so on, possibly for infinity. Going by the stated properties of the poison, and the uninterruptable cycle of mitosis and apoptosis with no reduction in telomere length, it's conceivable that any victim of APTX-4869 is effectively unaging—though trapped in their age-impaired form for the rest of their life. *
Don't ask where the temporary cures and the 200% increase in mass comes from, though.
o Apoptosis on such a large scale would more than likely result in TLS in the initial phase of APTX-4869 in the scenario described above. Lengthened telomeres do jack-all for acute end-phase renal failure. On the other hand, we need a live protagonist...
* And none of this explains why the new form would be identical to their actual past childhood form. But you've gotta admit, it's convenient.
* Nor does explain the simultaneous and proportionate shrinkage in all the non-cellular components of the body, such as bone matrix or collagen fibers.