Ai Only

[ProfParanoia]

Ai's character died after the Vermouth arc.

It died during 345.

[AICHAN]

Ai's character died after the Vermouth arc.

true...the Ai that I used to love disappeared...
now she still better than most of the other characters,but she's not the awesome Haibara anymore... she's just the head of the DB when Conan isn't here...
I really hope she'll be involved in the next BO arc,maybe she will turn to the old Haibara... I don't want Gosho to ruin one of the best characters in DC

[ProfParanoia]

I really hope she'll be involved in the next BO arc,maybe she will turn to the old Haibara...

Well that would just make everyone complain about her development being pointless and making her "whiny" again.

But it's not like you couldn't make Ai interesting now .

[kkslider5552000]

I've said before that anything I know about good storytelling suggests she has to be an important part of the Bourbon arc by the end.

[ProfParanoia]

I've said before that anything I know about good storytelling suggests she has to be an important part of the Bourbon arc by the end.

Well, in all honesty we don't know that.She could just be a diversion of interests. The FBI seemed to think Bourbon wanted Ai but we never got any real proof of that unless Okiya is Bourbon.

[kkslider5552000]

I've said before that anything I know about good storytelling suggests she has to be an important part of the Bourbon arc by the end.

Well, in all honesty we don't know that.She could just be a diversion of interests. The FBI seemed to think Bourbon wanted Ai but we never got any real proof of that unless Okiya is Bourbon.

yeah but even if that happens there are certain other reasons why she should be a part of this (particularly because of Akai)

[AICHAN]

I really hope she'll be involved in the next BO arc,maybe she will turn to the old Haibara...

Well that would just make everyone complain about her development being pointless and making her "whiny" again.

But it's not like you couldn't make Ai interesting now .

hmm,true...
I also like her development,but I want her having a bigger role than"a member of the DB"...she can use what she learnt from her friends to be more active into facing the BO,and not being just a victim...it would be interesting for me...

I've said before that anything I know about good storytelling suggests she has to be an important part of the Bourbon arc by the end.

Well, in all honesty we don't know that.She could just be a diversion of interests. The FBI seemed to think Bourbon wanted Ai but we never got any real proof of that unless Okiya is Bourbon.

yeah but even if that happens there are certain other reasons why she should be a part of this (particularly because of Akai)

that's what I think too...

[ProfParanoia]

I really hope she'll be involved in the next BO arc,maybe she will turn to the old Haibara...

Well that would just make everyone complain about her development being pointless and making her "whiny" again.

But it's not like you couldn't make Ai interesting now .

hmm,true...
I also like her development,but I want her having a bigger role than"a member of the DB"...she can use what she learnt from her friends to be more active into facing the BO,and not being just a victim...it would be interesting for me...

Or do something about Conan and actually confront him with her problems of Okiya instead of sometimes bring it up but only as a burn.

[AICHAN]

I really hope she'll be involved in the next BO arc,maybe she will turn to the old Haibara...

Well that would just make everyone complain about her development being pointless and making her "whiny" again.

But it's not like you couldn't make Ai interesting now .

hmm,true...
I also like her development,but I want her having a bigger role than"a member of the DB"...she can use what she learnt from her friends to be more active into facing the BO,and not being just a victim...it would be interesting for me...

Or do something about Conan and actually confront him with her problems of Okiya instead of sometimes bring it up but only as a burn.

exactly...

[kkslider5552000]

I really hope she'll be involved in the next BO arc,maybe she will turn to the old Haibara...

Well that would just make everyone complain about her development being pointless and making her "whiny" again.

But it's not like you couldn't make Ai interesting now .

hmm,true...
I also like her development,but I want her having a bigger role than"a member of the DB"...she can use what she learnt from her friends to be more active into facing the BO,and not being just a victim...it would be interesting for me...

Or do something about Conan and actually confront him with her problems of Okiya instead of sometimes bring it up but only as a burn.

But then we wouldn't have an arc. :p

I do hope at the end of this arc like...everyone complains to Conan for not telling anyone anything while this plays.

[ProfParanoia]

But then we wouldn't have an arc. :p

So it's not "good storytelling" it's "good storytelling with a heavy hand of plot convenience"?

[kkslider5552000]

But then we wouldn't have an arc. :p

So it's not "good storytelling" it's "good storytelling despite a heavy hand of plot convenience and emotionally slowed characters like every other part of this series ever"?

fixed. I'm not in a mood to rant about this anymore than I have.

[ProfParanoia]

But then we wouldn't have an arc. :p

So it's not "good storytelling" it's "good storytelling despite a heavy hand of plot convenience and emotionally slowed characters like every other part of this series ever"?

fixed.

Well that was implied.

[kkslider5552000]

But then we wouldn't have an arc. :p

So it's not "good storytelling" it's "good storytelling despite a heavy hand of plot convenience and emotionally slowed characters like every other part of this series ever"?

fixed.

Well that was implied.

Nah, I just like using "because the plot says so" related lines.

[ProfParanoia]