Akai (SPOILERS)

[Kite]

5) Extended cab in Akai's truck
    -Back seat or storage for Rikumichi's body allowing for quick move and speedy escape out the other door?

now wait... what other door? only 2 doors in akais car, one of them is blocked by guardrail (or whatever it is in english)

4) OH! So 2 door sports cars have no back seat too, right? So where do I sit in my cousin's porche 911? I could have sworn it was a back seat. Oh well I must have been hallucinating... (You really need to think before you type, and read up, about 2 people linked to proof of the possibility of the existence of a back seat in the extended cab)

Okay ... I don't believe Akai is dead, but playing the devil's advocate always proofs to be very interesting.

First off: http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/608/15/ 2nd panel, only one (open) door visible, and something that looks like a small darkened window next to it. Too small to represent a backseat when taking proportions into account, but that can't act as conclusive proof as the author can make drawing mistakes too.

So next: http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/609/03/ 3rd panel, windows stays pretty small to be a backseat, and the back of the car is lower than the roof. Which makes me believe the car is the same kind as what sandam posted.

PS. Please refrain from typing overly ironic sentences. I'm not saying you can't react in an ironic way, but your reaction was borderline being rude, kyuuketsuki. It annoyed the hell out of me, to be frank. That's why I probably also typed in a kind of agressive way (well I think I managed to cover that up for the most part), my apologies for that. Everyone has his own opinions, and it can be interesting to read arguments which clash with your own opinion. Who knows, we can always discover new things that way.

[caribou]

Wow, after reading all the various things pointed out, I really do believe that Akai IS probably still alive. I find it quite believable that Gosho could do something like that. But, like kyuu, I would be disappointed. If Akai were still alive it would be way too much advantage on the 'good' side! So I'm hoping that all these vague inconsistencies and 'hints' that Gosho left us are really just red herrings.

Spoiler:

...maybe pulling off the same trick as Edogawa Rampo? read The Two-Sen Copper Coin 

[yukionna]

From the anime's rendering of the truck, there seems to be a backseat. My grandpa has an old truck (it's a Ford, though) and the window size of the backseat was so small, i didn't even think there was a backseat at all (it was a very small backseat). Although it was small, there seems to be enough space to keep an average sized body in there.

[Found]

Spoiler:

File 700 seems to be centered on Shuu.. basing on 699's last page. I hope there are color pages in commemoration of the 700th file.

[yukionna]

Spoiler:

File 700 seems to be centered on Shuu.. basing on 699's last page. I hope there are color pages in commemoration of the 700th file.

Color page would be nice.

[themarble1]

i don't think  vermouth diguise herself has akai. it would be too risky if gin saw her there and the next thing is why would she disguse herself as akai. i mean she knew he was dead and gin saw it his death first hand so unless they want to c the fbi reaction if they knew that he wasn't killed then there is no reason to be in disguise.

what do u think?

[yukionna]

So next: http://www.onemanga.com/Detective_Conan/609/03/ 3rd panel, windows stays pretty small to be a backseat, and the back of the car is lower than the roof. Which makes me believe the car is the same kind as what sandam posted.

I think that's definitely enough room for a backseat. I think two-door trucks that have extra windows (i.e. not attached to the door), such as Akai's, have backseats. Those backseats are usually really narrow, though. Nonetheless, there's enough space to stuff the body (assuming the backseat does exist).

*crossing fingers for a good file*

[sstimson]

This may seem like spam but here it goes anyway

1) the head shot was through his stocking hat. There could be something under it to protect his head.

2) The more I think about like the more I think that Gin is either a fool or Wants to make it possible for Akia to be alive
Why? Well The best way to to make sure someone dies is NOT to shoot them but to use a knife or sword and remove their head. I believe a cut off head leaves no doubt to the victim being dead. While with a gun you can not be sure unless you are shooting flesh. ( He could be wearing a bullet proof vest ) also a stab into the heart also will let you know (you do need to watch out for foldable knifes thought )

3) I think the police showed up way too fast. It seem they were there and just waiting.

4) Using the bomb to "clean up". Remember Camel escaped the bomb but for a while it looked like he died.

This episode just seem to be a setup and magician trick. (Do not believe all you see or you are asking to be fooled )

Later

[Found]

I think Gin asked to shoot him to humor Vermouth-- that 'Silver Bullet' thing and all.

[quote]1) the head shot was through his stocking hat. There could be something under it to protect his head.[/spoiler]

Good point. But wasn't he bleeding?

[caribou]

1) the head shot was through his stocking hat. There could be something under it to protect his head.

this one, I agree.. there could even be a small bag of fake blood inside his hat?

2) The more I think about like the more I think that Gin is either a fool or Wants to make it possible for Akia to be alive
Why? Well The best way to to make sure someone dies is NOT to shoot them but to use a knife or sword and remove their head. I believe a cut off head leaves no doubt to the victim being dead. While with a gun you can not be sure unless you are shooting flesh. ( He could be wearing a bullet proof vest ) also a stab into the heart also will let you know (you do need to watch out for foldable knifes thought )

not too sure about this... of course if you cut off someone's head it's easier to ensure that they're dead. but apart from the fact that it doesn't really fit the BO to kill with a samurai sword (hehe), i think it would also be quite a struggle on Kir's part - i think it requires a LOT of force and strength to cut through flesh and bone. rather than that, i think the BO would choose a quick, less troublesome way of using a gun. with a gun (and assuming he is unarmed) Akai as at Kir's mercy; with any other weapon there can always be a struggle and Gin wouldn't want to take that risk.

also, like what you pointed out, there are retractable knives and 'stabbing' someone is probably a commonly done magician's trick.

[Natsumi]

I find it really odd that people just say no bluntly without any manga evidence or whatever else they can get their hands ahold of.

Anyway, i agree with anyone who pointed out all the evidence that he is, indeed alive.

With a gun, you can`t ensure anyone`s dead.
Shoot their heart? Bullet proof vest.
Shoot their head? There could be something under there.

So before everyone just starts jumping into conclusions that akai is "dead" they should really look up some manga.

[yukionna]

I don't think Gin is the type of guy who double-checks to make sure the target is dead. One example would be when he "took out" Shin'ichi. Gin didn't even shoot Shin'ichifor good measure.                           

[TheBlind]

I don't think Gin is the type of guy who double-checks to make sure the target is dead. One example would be when he "took out" Shin'ichi. Gin didn't even shoot Shin'ichifor good measure.                           

I agree that he isn't the type double check a kill but that's probably because he's certain they are dead. In Shinichi's case, he gave him a poison that was known to be fatal, so he had no reason to double check. Guy probably kills someone everyday, you know how irratating it would be to check EVERY time, , be like checking if 2+2=4 every time you add them up.

Also, shooting Shinichi after he had been heavily poisoned would of just been overkill and extremely evil(not double checking)...you are right, kinda out of character for Gin not to do it...but he was riding a roller coaster, maybe he had motion sickness and wanted to get home quickly .

[sstimson]

I don't think Gin is the type of guy who double-checks to make sure the target is dead. One example would be when he "took out" Shin'ichi. Gin didn't even shoot Shin'ichifor good measure.                           

I agree that he isn't the type double check a kill but that's probably because he's certain they are dead. In Shinichi's case, he gave him a poison that was known to be fatal, so he had no reason to double check. Guy probably kills someone everyday, you know how irratating it would be to check EVERY time, , be like checking if 2+2=4 every time you add them up.

Also, shooting Shinichi after he had been heavily poisoned would of just been overkill and extremely evil(not double checking)...you are right, kinda out of character for Gin not to do it...but he was riding a roller coaster, maybe he had motion sickness and wanted to get home quickly .

That's one of the curious things about the BO. I heard that the bubble in the blood stream is almost also fatal and near impossible to trace, Yet the Bo which is trying to stay hidden does not seem to use that method. The question is why!?

[caribou]

in any case i think the point of the whole encounter with Akai was to test Kir's loyalty. If the whole point was just to kill Akai, Gin might have just gone and done it himself. :/ (get vermouth to disguise him as Kir, etc? many possibilities..  ) maybe he figured, if Kir is indeed loyal and Akai is dead - one FBI agent down. if Kir fails to kill him - he knows she's a traitor - one FBI's lead gone. either way it's a 'win' for the BO...