Ai + Conan

[Introuble]

they are not dating but it is obvious that they love each other
oh they have been going out with each other tech dating they just dont want to call it/think of it as a date
come on people are even calling shinichi rans husband.....thats also why sonoko is important
childhood friends,going out,showing tons of feelings for each other and episodes and movies behind their backs

soragirl who do you honestly think will end up with shinichi?
soratothemax even admits shinxran will most likely happen

[Introuble]

btw nosebleeds in manga are portrayed as lust 
you know what that means 

[Misztina]

Shinichi can talk about Sherlock Holmes and deductions with Hattori. He only talks about that with Ran, because he tries to brag and he doesn't really know what to talk about with her, because he is embarassed., He thinks if he can talk-and-talk non-stop about Holmes then he wouldn't get in embaressing situation. Just think about desperate Revival. He didn't talk about Holmes, because that's a super topic, but to avoid to speak about what tehy should, about their relationship. Clearly, Shinichi & Ran have avoided talking about their feelings to eachother. Shinichi is arrogant around Ran, because he tries to hide his weakness.

He can solve cases with Ai. That's great too in a sense, but not a real reason to fall in love with her or anything. Haibara is a good friend to Shinichi, but love is not about similarities all the time. Shinichi needs someone who is more "worldly", Haibara is sort of a "freak" like Hattori, or him as well. Ran is more like a normal person, a common girl, who is sensitive and can pull back Shinichi from the detective realm. Ran sometiumes cries and such, and Ai only cries when... when it is time for her. Ai is more tough than Ran, seen more horrible things in the BO, but would you expect a normal girl not to be a crybaby seeing corpses everyday and thinking about love-life.

Btw. she says that she hates Shinichi's cases, because they drive him away from her, but (see: Desperate Revival) Ran was the one who encouraged Shinichi to go solve the case. Ran is extreamely understanding and patient in this sense.

[Rellik]

btw nosebleeds in manga are portrayed as lust 
you know what that means 

no its when you hit your nose against a wall or recieve one of Ran's lampost breaking punches

I want to bring this up; Shinchi is arrogant around Ran, too. That's cause she's not an intellect and he knows that.  Haibara can and actually did humble him. She meets that intellect and is calmer than Conan/ Shinchi and especially Ran. She doesn't act a fool around him whining and screaming, especially when it comes to listening to others. In fact, she calms Shinchi/Conan from time to time.

well i think Ran's intellect is perfectly fine, you may not be that far ahead, but in the manga there was a case where Ran solved it all by herself.

You can also tell she solved it all because of the influence of Shinichi, she recalled everything that Shinichi said to her about how to solve a case.
She even recalled Sherlock Holme's most famous phrase whilst trying to solve it.

so technically she does 'care', if she hates Shinichi's case solving then she would not have remembered everything Shinichi said about case solving perfectly.

they may not be dating but we can already tell they are really close together, since they have some kind of telepathic communication with each other - sounds weird but it happened in the manga.

[kaitoushinichi]

To be honest, I prefer ShinxRan rather than ConxAi. But the fact that Ai/Haibara/Shiho is in love with Conan makes the story better. Here's why:
1) Ai's love is one sided
2) she's jelous of Ran, but loves her at the same time because of her similarity to Akemi
3) she acts very coldly towards Conan
4) She still seems to blame herself a little about APTX4869
5) She often ends up getting saved by Conan, even though he is not in love with her
6) Conan is always so tactless ("Is there something on my face???")

[Rellik]

that's what i think too

though i want RanxShinichi to happen, i'd happily accept Coai if it's perfectly done.

[lavender2009]

I don't like the Ai x Conan pairing at all. Either as a child or an adult.

If they end up together at the end, I'll be so mad, I might toss my hard drive that has all my Conan on it out the window.

She just isn't meant for him. Ran is the girl who is angelic enough to wait for Shinichi for 12 years and stay devoted to him. They need to be together.

Haibara is just a nice friend, and that's it.

I am with you in that and i would probably break my computer.And there's a difference with pairing Ai and Conan/Shinichi and Ran,I think it would be better if Shinichi and Ran go together in the end cause they both have feelings for each other,while on the other hand Conan just sees Haibara as a friend.

[Soragirl6]

To answer everyone...first off, I never said that I didn't know where Goshyo is going with this ran/shinchi thing.  But no one here on the board is the writer.  Who knows what he is thinking in his home.  Anyway, it doesn't matter if Ran ends up with Shinchi...Ai is a better match intellectually and personality wise as well as the fact that she's another girl that he is very close to and will get closer to as time goes on. That fact is obvious to happen.  Hittori is not as close to Shinchi as Ai is.  The fact that he would be able to converse with her not only on serious matters but also on what he likes without always having to talk about feelings makes Ai a good match for shinchi.  Shinchi really only likes Ran because that was the only girl he knew at the time and she said she loved him.  But what other reasons?  I'll admit some writers don't care if a Romance is interesting.  They'd just rather portray some ditzy girl who falls in love so easily with the main character, knowing that the only reason he loves or even likes her is for her appearance.  Sure she's caring, but that is about it. 
And hey, regardless if Ran ends up with Shinchi, they are still a terrible match with a bunch of sappy scenes and a boring relationship to boot.  Now if there wasn't a strong connection between Ai/ Conan, than I wouldn't have much to say.  But because their relationship (whether or not they end up together) is actually going some where and rising into a changing feeling, that is why I say Ai/ Conan, EVEN AS FRIENDS would look better together than Ran/Shinchi as lovers.  If Ai/ Conan ever were to get together, Ran and Shinchi's supposed realations would look even more like crap and even more boring.
And it doesn't matter how obvious their supposed love, which to me Shinchi's is more of a crush, THEY ARE NOT boyfriend and girlfriend.  Ran herself doesn't even know that Shinchi knows how she feels. He hasn't confessed anything. Ran at first was his only friend and thats why when he went out, Ran was with him.  I mean really, Shinchi didn't really talk to anybody else on a friend level. Him liking Ran is natural when a guy is around a girl too long. 
But he's been around Haibara almost anywhere to the point it is impossible to see them apart as well.  So whether or not he has something for Ran, a new feeling and a new bond, (who knows how far it will go) is forming between ai and Conan.  Ran/Shinchi's romance is like dried up chewing gum that still has its color, but lost its flavor.
To add about similarities...Its great to be in love and all, but a person has to have something in common with their mate for it to be a lasting partnership.  Because Shinchi's LIFE is cases, he would definitely need someone who could be helping him and not hindering.  Why do you think the highest divorce rate in the world is from the detective/police/CIA/FBI? I'm serious about that.  Ai and Conan aren't similar, but they are in fact different in a way that they could be balanced financially and mentally as well as in the way they want their lifestyles.  They just have another basis for a growing relationship when I mention that they have a lot in common.  When they go out it, they would enjoy each others company having fun doing the same things together. Ran and shinchi's dates would be boring because they wouldn't have much to talk about and Ran wouldn't like any of the places that shinchi would like to go.  The best they could do is a restaurant if he's not caught up on a case. 
Love has to be on the basis of more than just knowing someone for a long time.  The quantity of a relationship is not as important as the quality.  Second of all, Haibara is more his speed and would make a calmer girlfriend/wife for him who won't whine to him all day long because they'll be in the business together.  She'll humble him when he gets his head blown up and helps Shinchi think about things he's never thought about before.  Added, Ai can actually be a caring person for Shinchi without losing herself.  Unfortunately, some writers don't care about quality in relationships anymore....(sigh) (Ran/shinchi, some Puppy love) (Ai/ Conan, profound relationship.)
But hey, thanks for listening to my poin of view. Over and Out. 

[Rellik]

^ $£%$%^$%$$%£"*&^!!!???... i give up...

[soratothamax]

sigh.....

ran and shinichi will end up together gosho made it that way and thats how he planned it
ran is shinichi's love interest in the story that's what makes her so IMPORTANT

What a weak importance. As we said before she's only there to be a lover! Thats what we said in the first place, other than that she has no importance to the main story : BO, mysteries, etc.

[Misztina]

So  an argument for ShixShiho would be that she is an important character? 

Spoiler:

We should fetch him Vermouth then. 

[Rellik]

So  an argument for ShixShiho would be that she is an important character? 

Spoiler:

We should fetch him Vermouth then. 

lol the more disturbing thing is, it makes sense...

[kaitoushinichi]

sigh.....

ran and shinichi will end up together gosho made it that way and thats how he planned it
ran is shinichi's love interest in the story that's what makes her so IMPORTANT

What a weak importance. As we said before she's only there to be a lover! Thats what we said in the first place, other than that she has no importance to the main story : BO, mysteries, etc.

Ran's main role is Shinichi's love, but she also affects the other characters' personalities A LOT. Without her, the storyline would be really different. With Conan/Shinich, she's someone he wants to protect no matter what, Haibara is jealous of her but still wants her to be safe because she's thinking about Conan's feelings and Ran is so similar to Akemi, her father wouldn't act as funnilly because he's so protective of her, Vermouth was kept from killing both Ran and Haibara because she felt a guilt complex towards Ran, Eisuke wouldn't have been able to trick Conan into revealing his identity if Ran wasn't there (because he told Conan about his love towards Ran)... so Ran really isn't just some useless person. And there have been lots of times when Conan would have died without her.

[rushx5]

sigh.....

ran and shinichi will end up together gosho made it that way and thats how he planned it
ran is shinichi's love interest in the story that's what makes her so IMPORTANT

What a weak importance. As we said before she's only there to be a lover! Thats what we said in the first place, other than that she has no importance to the main story : BO, mysteries, etc.

Ran's main role is Shinichi's love, but she also affects the other characters' personalities A LOT. Without her, the storyline would be really different. With Conan/Shinich, she's someone he wants to protect no matter what, Haibara is jealous of her but still wants her to be safe because she's thinking about Conan's feelings and Ran is so similar to Akemi, her father wouldn't act as funnilly because he's so protective of her, Vermouth was kept from killing both Ran and Haibara because she felt a guilt complex towards Ran, Eisuke wouldn't have been able to trick Conan into revealing his identity if Ran wasn't there (because he told Conan about his love towards Ran)... so Ran really isn't just some useless person. And there have been lots of times when Conan would have died without her.

Very true. And when you say Ran isn't "interllectually" on par with shinichi you are talking about deductions and obsure factoids. I bet Ran does excellent in school not to mention she has karate to protect herself if one of the perps tries to get revenge on shinichi by harming her. What would Ai have done? Shoot? Poison? Then Shinichi will need to put her in prison lol. I just don't like how Ran is deliberately weakened in recent episodes when compared to earlier ones (1-200).

[kirite]

^ $£%$%^$%$$%£"*&^!!!???... i give up...

There there it's okay *pats*.  If we all have the same opinion this thread won't be half as entertaining~

Gosho meant for Conan x Ai to be a variable in the whole DC love equation.  It's what makes it so much fun <3.

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Investigating Ran? she's not a hard girl to figure out. Haibara is enigmatic, and as Shinichi slowly learns to understand her, he will be interested in her personality and realize how much the BO has dirtied up her mind. She has gotten stronger, but where she is going Ai has already been.

It also doesn't exclude the fact that she has NOTHING in common with Shinichi. Neither does it prove that she can actually be of use to him in a marriage bond later in life. I can see Ai being by his side as support for his detective working for life. Ran will pretty much lose all interesting points after Shinichi returns. Then what? If he solves anymore cases, Ai would be more useful.

I don't understand is why Ran and Ai is always seen as "support" to Shinichi?  In what way does Shinichi need supporting from the two ladies?  If anyone the only person who can really support him in a case is Heiji, Akai, and other detectives.  Haibara is brilliant but, unfortunately, the way cases go is that she doesn't figure out the case until Conan explains it.  Same with Ran.

If Shinichi and Ai gets together why is it that people see her as a "support" to Shinichi's cases?  Why is it that she's following him around to help him achieve his goals but have none on her own? So here we have a genius scientist living with a (slightly) crazy inventor while she's being chased down by a evil organisation and people's opinion is that she'll be safest and happiest following Shinichi as he chase down murderers?  Maybe xD.  But I was thinking of the lines of living a peaceful life and actually doing what SHE wants to do instead (be a doctor, open a pet shop, make chocolate that's good for your teeth because Ayumi won't go to the dentist, etc...).  Whatcha guys think?