Ai + Conan

[Introuble]

no cure for aptx = fail ending

[soratothamax]

Arg...sorry, going to go off on a semi-related note here.  Feel free not to read this.

I'm never a big fan of the "interesting versus normal" thing.  I guess it's because I'm someone who believes a good mangaka should be able to make all his or her characters unique and interesting.

With that said I think people in general are really boring on the outisde, but that's a whole different rant all together lol.

Anyways I think the "level of interest" a character gets depends not entirely on what happens in the story, but how much you love the character.


For example:  Hondou Eisuke.  To someone who doesn't like Hondou Eisuke, he's probably just a girly guy who's bad luck and dorky looks makes him so annoying xD.  For me, I really like Eisuke and think his background is very tragic and interesting.  His sister studies aboard and his father is always away.  Being sick ever since he's born, his mother was probably his entire world- all of which was ripped from him when he was 7.  Hospitalised and with his father "overseas" his sister Hidemi became his reason to fight the pain and live.  She soon vanishes, right after his sucessful operation.   His father soon vanished as well and Eisuke is left alone and left wondering why everyone he loves leaves him without saying anything...etc.

I feel for him but really there are probably millions of kids like him in the DC universe.  If you think about it there is nothing really special about him.  What makes him unique however is his personality ^^.  In the same way, I like to look at Shiho by the way she acts in manga, and if I were to pair her up, I wouldn't say "it's because her background is more tragic" but because "she can tell chocolates faces are sad".

I see how you feel about that. I love Eusike! Actually I think he looks better with Ran. They could get along very fine. Shiho's background gives people more sympathy causing others to feel she should be lucky for a change, when her life is so unfortunate. Ran seems almost too perfect.

[soratothamax]

I'm just dislike how sometimes the ShinichixRan relationship is seen, as I said before I support both pairings. I tend to arguie more for ShinxRan, because I think people misjudge it and think it i not as great as Shinichi+Shiho.

I always imagined something like: (fanfiction craze-bit off-topic, sorry)

Shinichi & Ran get married, have triplets (that is so cute, don't ask why, 2 boys and a girl btw.) but then Ran dies when the kids are 2-3(killed at Hattori's, because she is mistaken as Kazuha etc.).
A few years later, when the kids are 5-6, Shiho appears. She is at the airport, arriving from the US with her "boyfriend". But that relationship sucked, because that guy, happens to be a police guy or similiar gets to know about Shiho's past and though they were lovey-dovey, he becomes sick of her (that bastard >.>) and treats her very bad. Shiho says to her self: Do I really don't deserve love anymore?
Meanwhile Shinichi is seeing off his parents in the airport. He spent lots of time with his kids, basicly he couldn't focus on anything else, besides 3 kids, but he still felt lonely, so by the encouragement of his parents, friends (especially Hattori) he tried to go out with a woman, but in the end she couldn't accept Shinichi's emotions towards Ran and the kids were a bother too and she said that Shinichi won't ever find a woman who'd bare with his things. And Shinichi asks the same thing that Shiho did. And they meet. And a bit slowly but they get together, since Shinichi doesn't think that Shiho's past is relevant, and Shiho respects Shinichi's feelings to some extent. And some more things and happy ending. -definitely romantic pesron, me thst is XD;-
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Ran doesn't hate the cases as much as it is emphasized in the anime/movies. She only hates them, because she doesn't know yet what is more important to Shinichi. Shinichi uses his "cases" as excuses (you know, when he turns to Conan again in Desp. revival and fake-Shinichi case) and no wonder that Ran is upset. If she'd know that Shinichi truly loves her and stuff, she'd let him to go to 1000 cases if that's his wish. And Ran never asked Shinichi to choose between her and the cases. Because she knows they are important, maybe life-saving or just are for justice and that it is very important to Shinichi.

One more thing: We don't know when is Ran's birthday. In the first movie when Shinichi's birthday is given, we can see that Ran is also Taurus. Only that J-drama said differently, but after watching it, one wouldn't take it canon or anything. The first J-drama was sooooo argh!

Gohyo Aoyama said it was October 2. Based on manga and character profiles. That episode was meant to signify that they both shared Venus as their main planet. Forget the anime, it's not as accurate as the manga. Ran didn't want him talking about cases in the first episode/volume when they went to Tropical Land. She TRIED to play it off, but it was obvious that she thinks he puts cases over her, and therefore, doesn't like when he goes off on a case. And in the Desp. Revival, he left because of the case, and during the case started to turn back into Conan. If they get married, she's going to think a lot of the time that he puts cases before her, because he might be gone majority of the time, while she waits at home. I don't think she'd want him to go on as many cases as he wants. She didn't like it that much BEFORE he became Conan and wished he would spend time with her (go to Tropical Land etc rather than go on a case). She was even tired of hearing about Sherlock Holmes. She couldn't relate. I don't feel that Ai would be the same. She might contribute to the conversation, knowing her store of knowledge. She might even be a detective, or a scientist helping with forensics. Even if Ran was okay with it, she wouldn't be able to contribute much to his profession, and could find herself alone in the household or in danger. Ai could possible be with Shinichi in the field. She didn't ask him to choose, but she really feels that they are what is hindering him from her.

[baka1412]

1) i don't find it right to break up with someone who has been waiting for you for a long time
2) all episodes involving shinXran will be wasted...all of those scenes of shinXran in the movies will be wasted
3) i cant imagine ran with eisuke sounds horrible ran does not even like him
4) any episodes on aixconan none!......there might be scenes but conan shows 0% love interest for haibara
5) if gosho ever plans to make a change 690 chapters have passed too late

these are reasons why i think aixconan will not happen

The only reason i find reasonable, is the last one... Even i must admit, trying for plan change when the manga itself already reach 690 Chapter, is way too late..

Unless Gosho is already planning for some kind of "Open Ending" (a win-win solution, without anyone making out)

For example :

Near the ending -> Haibara confess her feeling to conan, but without giving him any chance to reply.. And some scene of Conan thought concerning his & her feeling...

Story continues -> BO destroyed, cure was found, both return to original Body

And the Ending scene -> Shinichi back to HighSchool, Shiho appear as transfer Student, Shinichi Blushed, and stories just end like that..

Which leave all the interpretation for the next possible outcome, all up to the readers Imagination.....

[soratothamax]

1) i don't find it right to break up with someone who has been waiting for you for a long time
2) all episodes involving shinXran will be wasted...all of those scenes of shinXran in the movies will be wasted
3) i cant imagine ran with eisuke sounds horrible ran does not even like him
4) any episodes on aixconan none!......there might be scenes but conan shows 0% love interest for haibara
5) if gosho ever plans to make a change 690 chapters have passed too late

these are reasons why i think aixconan will not happen

The only reason i find reasonable, is the last one... Even i must admit, trying for plan change when the manga itself already reach 690 Chapter, is way too late..

Unless Gosho is already planning for some kind of "Open Ending" (a win-win solution, without anyone making out)

For example :

Near the ending -> Haibara confess her feeling to conan, but without giving him any chance to reply.. And some scene of Conan thought concerning his & her feeling...

Story continues -> BO destroyed, cure was found, both return to original Body

And the Ending scene -> Shinichi back to HighSchool, Shiho appear as transfer Student, Shinichi Blushed, and stories just end like that..

Which leave all the interpretation for the next possible outcome, all up to the readers Imagination.....

Really, it's too late to just get rid of Haibara either. I feel this interpretation will be for the best as well. I don't feel Haibara is the type to confess, but if she did it would devastate Shinichi! lol I can see their relationship being a little awkward when he turns back, and IF she decides to turn back. To answer the first quote:

1) I  don't remember that they were dating yet, so it is technically not a break-up, it's just her idiotically waiting for a guy who never told her he loved her and can date who he wants.

2) All episodes of Haibara/Conan will be wasted as well if there is no closure. And the movies aren't even a part of the main story. Maybe the manga and anime should have two different endings??

3) Ran DOES like Eusike!  Then why was she crying before he left? And why was she in the room when he was naked and getting dressed? hmm? hm? I love them they look good together and are emotional and sensitive together, hah!

4) He may not show love interest, but something is there. Their relationship is growing, he is UNDERSTANDING and is confused by his feelings period. Ran is more in love with him, than he is her. To me, feelings can change and they will. Ran and Shinichi's relationship is dry and though they are "supposed" to be together, they don't LOOK good together. Conan has been able to talk to Haibara about everything SERIOUSLY. He barely has anything in common with Ran.

5) It is never too late to change anything in a plot-twisting anime detective story. If there isn't a twist, it wouldn't be interesting an interesting detective story. It'd be obvious.

Check out http://www.astrology.com.au/366bdays/profile.asp and see what I mean October 2 Ran's b-day and May 4 Shinichi's b-day.

[baka1412]

... Can you feel the irony..

It is too late to change the scenario from Ran, but it is also too late to get rid of Haibara...

It will be a waste to ignore all the Shinichi Ran moment, but it also unfair to waste all the moment of Haibara and Conan together..

That is, for Gosho, the Curse and Bless, since the later primary girl character, getting more popularity from the first main girl character 

Ah well, First Love Isn't Always your True love right ? It is never too late to fall in love with different person... 

[Introuble]

1) i don't find it right to break up with someone who has been waiting for you for a long time
2) all episodes involving shinXran will be wasted...all of those scenes of shinXran in the movies will be wasted
3) i cant imagine ran with eisuke sounds horrible ran does not even like him
4) any episodes on aixconan none!......there might be scenes but conan shows 0% love interest for haibara
5) if gosho ever plans to make a change 690 chapters have passed too late

these are reasons why i think aixconan will not happen

The only reason i find reasonable, is the last one... Even i must admit, trying for plan change when the manga itself already reach 690 Chapter, is way too late..

Unless Gosho is already planning for some kind of "Open Ending" (a win-win solution, without anyone making out)

For example :

Near the ending -> Haibara confess her feeling to conan, but without giving him any chance to reply.. And some scene of Conan thought concerning his & her feeling...

Story continues -> BO destroyed, cure was found, both return to original Body

And the Ending scene -> Shinichi back to HighSchool, Shiho appear as transfer Student, Shinichi Blushed, and stories just end like that..

Which leave all the interpretation for the next possible outcome, all up to the readers Imagination.....

Really, it's too late to just get rid of Haibara either. I feel this interpretation will be for the best as well. I don't feel Haibara is the type to confess, but if she did it would devastate Shinichi! lol I can see their relationship being a little awkward when he turns back, and IF she decides to turn back. To answer the first quote:

1) I  don't remember that they were dating yet, so it is technically not a break-up, it's just her idiotically waiting for a guy who never told her he loved her and can date who he wants.

2) All episodes of Haibara/Conan will be wasted as well if there is no closure. And the movies aren't even a part of the main story. Maybe the manga and anime should have two different endings??

3) Ran DOES like Eusike!  Then why was she crying before he left? And why was she in the room when he was naked and getting dressed? hmm? hm? I love them they look good together and are emotional and sensitive together, hah!

4) He may not show love interest, but something is there. Their relationship is growing, he is UNDERSTANDING and is confused by his feelings period. Ran is more in love with him, than he is her. To me, feelings can change and they will. Ran and Shinichi's relationship is dry and though they are "supposed" to be together, they don't LOOK good together. Conan has been able to talk to Haibara about everything SERIOUSLY. He barely has anything in common with Ran.

5) It is never too late to change anything in a plot-twisting anime detective story. If there isn't a twist, it wouldn't be interesting an interesting detective story. It'd be obvious.

Check out http://www.astrology.com.au/366bdays/profile.asp and see what I mean October 2 Ran's b-day and May 4 Shinichi's b-day.

1) RAN LIKES EISUKE LOL!!! JOKE OF THE YEAR

2) If this series ends up with ShinXRan how will that waste CoXAi scenes? conan does not even like haibara those scenes are just put in  for humor (mostly)

3) there not even ConanXAi episodes...what are you talking about?
as for the movies...imagine if DC ended with CoXAi people who would watch those movies again would say....WTF so many ShinXRan scenes why would they include this if they did not even end up together....so stupid

4) Shin&Ran are not dating but they are madly in love with each other...they just keep their feelings locked up

5) it is quite late for a change more than 10 years have passed...691 chapters
ShinXRan have had episodes involving their relationship
movie scenes and all that!
i dont think gosho would change from ShinXRan to CoXAi you dont really need a twist in romance...well at least in a detective anime

[kirite]

... Can you feel the irony..

It is too late to change the scenario from Ran, but it is also too late to get rid of Haibara...

It will be a waste to ignore all the Shinichi Ran moment, but it also unfair to waste all the moment of Haibara and Conan together..

That is, for Gosho, the Curse and Bless, since the later primary girl character, getting more popularity from the first main girl character  

Ah well, First Love Isn't Always your True love right ? It is never too late to fall in love with different person... 

The "meet one girl then meet another girl who's more popular" happens in all Gosho's stories actually.  It's like his thing .

Main guy meets first girl who's just there most of the time, but as the series progresses she slowly grows personality.  Guy also meets second girl who falls in love with him on sight, is awesome at fighting or whatever the series is about, most beautiful character in the series, has a tragic past, really brilliant, is not afraid to admit her feelings, becomes "love rival" to first girl without the first girl really noticing, etc...

But of course guy will like the first girl and is completely oblivious to the fact that the second girl likes him.  All the fans go to shipping war etc...

It's like how some Shojo mangas will have these two guys liking the main girl.  One guy will be extremely good looking, fall in love with the girl on sight, be really nice to her and does everything to cheer her up.  The other guy will be a complete jerk (but really good looking jerk), who calls the main girl ugly, has random short moments of being sweet, etc...yet he'll be the one who gets the girl in the end (and constantly picks on her anyways).

Really that's the way people's egos work.  When main character gets stuck with the "inferior" choice, people will be all like OMG S/HE'S SO DEEP AND LOYAL AND STUFF!  It's also how mangaka generates debate and interest ^_^ (which is smart).  Personally this whole thing annoyes me deeply and it's a reason why I don't match Haibara with Conan (she's too cool for him anyways).

(note:  Sorry I sounded a bit bitter there xD)

As to changing ShinxRan to S+S.  I think it's possible, but not the romantic way.  B.O. isn't something they can take down in a lifetime.  They'll probably stay together trying to bring down the B.O. in secret for the remainder of their days.  If that's the case then Conan will probably think it's too dangerous for him to be with Ran...but knowing Ran she'll probably look for "Shinichi" for the rest of her life without Conan even knowing, jumping in danger's way in every turn.

[Snowprincess]

And they're fighting again because of fictional people (Or better said because of pairings..)

I didn't read all the postings but I guess I have to agree with one thing:
This whole Ran x Shinichi-relationship isn't really proceeding. (Well, I actually want to see Ai and Conan ending up together.. *hides*)
And I also think that it won't be developing - It just stays the same "level". (It isn't only my opinion - A friend of mine, who's actually Ran x Shinichi-supporter, said the same..)

But it's completely different with Ai and Conan - Because first he kind of hated her and now she's a real ally to him and also a friend.
And I even claim that there's something more because, you know, couldn't it be possible he's in love with her as Conan and, of course, he's still in love with Ran as Shinichi? (Strangely, I do think that Conan and Shinichi are "different persons" because if you're stuck in another body, don't you think that you will change and actually even get a new "identity"?)


All in all I just hope that Gôshô's coming with a very good idea as ending because I just don't want a "Love, peace and harmony"-ending.. (I still hope, it'll be an open end or a really tragical ending.. That everyone should die isn't maybe a bad idea at all because this stupid shipping war will end..)

[soratothamax]

... Can you feel the irony..

It is too late to change the scenario from Ran, but it is also too late to get rid of Haibara...

It will be a waste to ignore all the Shinichi Ran moment, but it also unfair to waste all the moment of Haibara and Conan together..

That is, for Gosho, the Curse and Bless, since the later primary girl character, getting more popularity from the first main girl character  

Ah well, First Love Isn't Always your True love right ? It is never too late to fall in love with different person... 

The "meet one girl then meet another girl who's more popular" happens in all Gosho's stories actually.  It's like his thing .

Main guy meets first girl who's just there most of the time, but as the series progresses she slowly grows personality.  Guy also meets second girl who falls in love with him on sight, is awesome at fighting or whatever the series is about, most beautiful character in the series, has a tragic past, really brilliant, is not afraid to admit her feelings, becomes "love rival" to first girl without the first girl really noticing, etc...

But of course guy will like the first girl and is completely oblivious to the fact that the second girl likes him.  All the fans go to shipping war etc...

It's like how some Shojo mangas will have these two guys liking the main girl.  One guy will be extremely good looking, fall in love with the girl on sight, be really nice to her and does everything to cheer her up.  The other guy will be a complete jerk (but really good looking jerk), who calls the main girl ugly, has random short moments of being sweet, etc...yet he'll be the one who gets the girl in the end (and constantly picks on her anyways).

Really that's the way people's egos work.  When main character gets stuck with the "inferior" choice, people will be all like OMG S/HE'S SO DEEP AND LOYAL AND STUFF!  It's also how mangaka generates debate and interest ^_^ (which is smart).  Personally this whole thing annoyes me deeply and it's a reason why I don't match Haibara with Conan (she's too cool for him anyways).

(note:  Sorry I sounded a bit bitter there xD)

As to changing ShinxRan to S+S.  I think it's possible, but not the romantic way.  B.O. isn't something they can take down in a lifetime.  They'll probably stay together trying to bring down the B.O. in secret for the remainder of their days.  If that's the case then Conan will probably think it's too dangerous for him to be with Ran...but knowing Ran she'll probably look for "Shinichi" for the rest of her life without Conan even knowing, jumping in danger's way in every turn.

And you're right. It is obvious and the same in all of his works. I don't think the fanbase of the others are as harshly divided as this one is though. In every Shojo manga, I've seen divisions, but not to this greatest extent. I feel it is because Shinichi looks good with more than one girl. Though it is the situation for all of Goshyo's characters, I have different feelings for them. I like Aoko and Kaitou Kid! I think they look great together! But I think he's better with two girls (Akako), but I don't care who he ends up with, it'll still be cool! He just seems like he can get any girl he wants and be happy with it. He's a cool sort of naughty thief guy, he can get away with it! Heiji and Kazyua are the best childhood friends couple to me. I see chemistry! And don't get me wrong, I like Ran and all, and I know that Goshyo wants them to end up together, and I know that they love each other and all, and I know there's many episodes with them. But they still don't LOOK good together imo. They still don't seem like they can last very long beyond high school. They don't seem to work together. It just looks like a flop. At first, I didn't really care before Ai came. I just cared about the mysteries, but even then, I didn't see a spark. But Ai had a spark with Conan. I just feel they would've looked better if Goshyo would have gone that way. But he didn't, but still I'm all for it and for any episodes that have it.

I like RanXEusike!!! Why do the sweet girls have to like the arogant dudes? It's the dorks that'll treat you right! High School Girls.....ugh!...they never understand until they graduate and grow up. What annoys me is to see childhood relationships in every anime and NOT to see a plot twist. This is the first debate that I felt was worth it, because normally, the fan base is usually not as large for the "opposing" team. I feel Haibara can handle Shinichi being a detective in the long run. Ran will cry from lack of attention....

[soratothamax]

1) i don't find it right to break up with someone who has been waiting for you for a long time
2) all episodes involving shinXran will be wasted...all of those scenes of shinXran in the movies will be wasted
3) i cant imagine ran with eisuke sounds horrible ran does not even like him
4) any episodes on aixconan none!......there might be scenes but conan shows 0% love interest for haibara
5) if gosho ever plans to make a change 690 chapters have passed too late

these are reasons why i think aixconan will not happen

The only reason i find reasonable, is the last one... Even i must admit, trying for plan change when the manga itself already reach 690 Chapter, is way too late..

Unless Gosho is already planning for some kind of "Open Ending" (a win-win solution, without anyone making out)

For example :

Near the ending -> Haibara confess her feeling to conan, but without giving him any chance to reply.. And some scene of Conan thought concerning his & her feeling...

Story continues -> BO destroyed, cure was found, both return to original Body

And the Ending scene -> Shinichi back to HighSchool, Shiho appear as transfer Student, Shinichi Blushed, and stories just end like that..

Which leave all the interpretation for the next possible outcome, all up to the readers Imagination.....

Really, it's too late to just get rid of Haibara either. I feel this interpretation will be for the best as well. I don't feel Haibara is the type to confess, but if she did it would devastate Shinichi! lol I can see their relationship being a little awkward when he turns back, and IF she decides to turn back. To answer the first quote:

1) I  don't remember that they were dating yet, so it is technically not a break-up, it's just her idiotically waiting for a guy who never told her he loved her and can date who he wants.

2) All episodes of Haibara/Conan will be wasted as well if there is no closure. And the movies aren't even a part of the main story. Maybe the manga and anime should have two different endings??

3) Ran DOES like Eusike!  Then why was she crying before he left? And why was she in the room when he was naked and getting dressed? hmm? hm? I love them they look good together and are emotional and sensitive together, hah!

4) He may not show love interest, but something is there. Their relationship is growing, he is UNDERSTANDING and is confused by his feelings period. Ran is more in love with him, than he is her. To me, feelings can change and they will. Ran and Shinichi's relationship is dry and though they are "supposed" to be together, they don't LOOK good together. Conan has been able to talk to Haibara about everything SERIOUSLY. He barely has anything in common with Ran.

5) It is never too late to change anything in a plot-twisting anime detective story. If there isn't a twist, it wouldn't be interesting an interesting detective story. It'd be obvious.

Check out http://www.astrology.com.au/366bdays/profile.asp and see what I mean October 2 Ran's b-day and May 4 Shinichi's b-day.

1) RAN LIKES EISUKE LOL!!! JOKE OF THE YEAR

2) If this series ends up with ShinXRan how will that waste CoXAi scenes? conan does not even like haibara those scenes are just put in  for humor (mostly)

3) there not even ConanXAi episodes...what are you talking about?
as for the movies...imagine if DC ended with CoXAi people who would watch those movies again would say....WTF so many ShinXRan scenes why would they include this if they did not even end up together....so stupid

4) Shin&Ran are not dating but they are madly in love with each other...they just keep their feelings locked up

5) it is quite late for a change more than 10 years have passed...691 chapters
ShinXRan have had episodes involving their relationship
movie scenes and all that!
i dont think gosho would change from ShinXRan to CoXAi you dont really need a twist in romance...well at least in a detective anime

1) Ran SHOULD be with Eusike since she's so sensitive and wants attention. He would treat her well, and he would give her lots of time. She's so clingy, she's missing up a good catch for her!

2) Who cares about Shin Ran scenes? Anything Should be able to happen! Plot twist can and should happen to make it interesting. Feelings can change if they want to. Even if Conan doesn't like her now, who says he won't ever? You do? Oh, but then again, you aren't the writer.....

3) Conai episodes like 176? 177? maybe?? And there are just more interesting moments in episodes with Ai and Conan in general. All the Ran Shinichi ones are boring, sappy, uninteresting, same song and dance, and Ran crying AGAIN! I just can't get into them. I just don't like Ran and Shinichi together. Even if he doesn't end up with Haibara. I don't think it would be stupid, I think it will be great and  an interesting change in the story.

4) Madly in love...maybe...but they won't do well together. They are not compatible. Ran is too sensitive for the bottled-up Shinichi. She has too many emotions for him. They'll have many problems. Ran will think he is insensitive and does not pay close attention to her feelings, and Shinichi will feel strained from going on as many cases as he wants. She's expecting too much from a young high school boy!

5) 10 years have passed, and it is a new generation of viewers who are done with the sensitive 90s girl, and on to more independent and intelligent girls. Anything can change, and things have changed. There were many episodes of Shuu, but is he alive? No. Do you feel they were a waste? There may not have been as many, but there were plenty to feel that way.

I don't think Goshyo would change the relationship either, but I do feel it is the better one. I feel if it did exist, it would be stronger and more satisfying on both ends. They would not interfere with each other's duty as a detective or a scientist, and Haibara would not be so demanding on Shinichi.

[Introuble]

1) shinichi would also treat her well and give her lots of time
dont forget eisuke knows conan is shinichi so he wont try to flirt with ran
he even told shinichi make her happy for me or soemthing like that.

2) alot of people care about shinxran scenes/episodes..your one of those who dont

3) COXAI dont have episodes revolving around their relationship...conan does not even have feelings for ai
unlike shinxran
Detective Conan 100 - Memories of the First Love Case (Part 1)
Detective Conan 101 - Memories of the First Love Case (Part 2)
Detective Conan 191 - Desperate Revival - The Black Cloaked Knight
Detective Conan 192 - Desperate Revival - The Returned Shinichi
Detective Conan 193 - Desperate Revival - The Promised Place
Detective Conan 521 - Murderer, Kudou Shinichi 
Detective Conan 522 - Shinichi's True Colours and Ran's Tears

they even have more episodes with them in it
those childhood adventures,shinichi's first case,shinichi's new york case or something? and rans suspicions
and alot of scenes jumbled up in some episodes 
"All the Ran Shinichi ones are boring, sappy, uninteresting, same song and dance" well that's your opinion

4) LOL!!! THAT'S YOUR OPINION

5) "10 have passed, and it is a new generation of viewers who are done with the sensitive 90s girl, and on to more independent and intelligent girls" well 10 years have passed and theres still ALOT of people who go for the sensitive 90s girl

[haibarakudo]

Ai + Conan:


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from what episode is this picture?! it's my first time seeing it.. hehe thanks!

It's episode 533

[Introuble]

looks like conan is telling haibara something or telling her to do something? 

[kirite]

I'm sorry but from what I read do you guys have something against Japanese girls?  Sorry if I misunderstood (I'm not that good at English afterall xD). I kinda get the feeling that everyone thinks Japanese girls are clinging, annoying and weak...if that's your opinion, I hope you'll keep it to yourself.  I also hope your opinion changes when you meet some cool Japanese girls in real life ^^.

Lol sorry, let me make it short for you to read bluekaitou-kun!

Eisuke is planning to join the CIA soon and he'll probably vanish like the rest of his family since he wants to go against the B.O.  Ran will have no luck when it comes to guys, she's a main female character in Gosho's universe .

Ran likes Shinichi best when he's doing his detective deduction.  "Even though he's an idiot, he's cool and dependable." and her reaction to the baseball players during that "One evil in 53000" case.  Also during Desperate Revival she just lets him go.  The reason she cries is because she might never see him alive again.

By Conan x Ai scene she's talking about the scenes where they care about each other and risk their lives for each other (while you're thinking pure blown Gosho romance).  Conan might not like Ai that way, but you can't ignore the fact that there are moments between them (one sided or not).  If Shinichi isn't as slow as a snail when it comes to his emotions he should have noticed something by now (Yukiko noticed right away).

I'm no mod or anything (so you don't have to listen to me) but Intotrouble and Soratothemax.  Can you guys relax a bit before you start character bashing (if you haven't started already?).  Thanks in advance!