Mafia Round 14 - The town strikes back (Town Wins!)

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Re: Mafia Round 14 - The town strikes back (Town Wins!)

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Well... here is the list of PO. Decide for yourselves...

Spoiler: Personal Objectives
01. Calvados (Akonyl):

Legacy
You don't have a specific desire. You are content the way your life is now. You are living for your Comorades - so if one of them dies for your cause, you feel obligated to carry on their legacy for them.
Objective: Wait until one member of the BO dies who had not finished their Personal Objective yet. You will gain their Personal Objective and can continue it.
Reward: You will gain the same reward as the dead member would have gotten.
Failure: You fail your task under the same condition as the player you got yor quest from. You also fail your quest if: a) All BO members finish their Personal Objectives before they die, or b) The other members of the BO learn about your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: none (failing to get a task from another member)-
or the punishment from the BO member you got your Personal Objective from.


02. Bourbon (Yurikochan)
Those, who betrayed the Organisation
You are searching for those who betrayed the organisation: Akai and Haibara. Are they around? Can you kill them?

Objective:Kill either Akai or Haibara with your own hands (killing or APTX). Or - if neither of them is in the game from the beginning - write the GM (me) a PM claiming that you succesfully scared them away.
Reward:You gain the ability to slander yourself (similar to Gin) instead of using Detect during the night.
Failture: You will fail your task if you: Falsely claim they are not in the game; or if they get killed by someone else. You will also fail if the other members of the BO learn what your objective is before completing it.
Punishment: The town will learn that there is a "Bourbon" in the game. They will not learn that it is you, though.


03. Conia (Shiratori)
Something is missing...
You are feeling strange. Like you should have been someone else. Like if someone stole your identity. And aren't some of you clothes missing? Or maybe you are just imagining things?
Objective:Arrest another player for disguising, or have another member of the police arrest him/her. The arrested could be Kid, Vermouth or Yukiko.
Reward:You will learn their identity, their disguise and whom they took their disguise(s) from.
Failture:You will fail your task when there is no more KID, Vermouth or Yukiko in the game.
Punishment:none


04. Kleene Onigiri (Mitsuhiko)
Proving yourself
You want to impress your friends. Everyone of them. To do so, you must show that you are able to work like a real Detective, without the help of people smarter than you.
Objective: Succesfully identify any other player before Ayumi (PhoneixTears) completed her own task.
Reward:You will finally be acknowledged. And you will be able to use "Investigate 2" during the nights afterwards.
Failture:You will fail your tasks if Ayumi finds your friends (who will surely try to help you with their knowledge) before you completed your own task.
Punishment:The next day you will feel discouraged. You will be treated like you were frightened by Tequila.


05. pofa (Anokata)
Absolute control *Intrigue

(Intrigues are tasks that might be directed against other BO members.)


Being the boss isn't easy. Intrigues against you and the organisation are no rare occurence. But so far you have crushed them long before they could pose a danger.
Objective:Find your BO members who are sheming against you and the BO (Their personal tasks will be marked with *Intrigue just like yours). Either expose their plans (Post what you think their Personal Objectives are in a PM to me and all BO members), or have them killed.
Reward:Exposing them will have their Personal Objectives fail and be loyal to you once more. If you have to kill them you will be able to use their actions/abilities from that moment on. You may not use more than one action per phase.
Failture:If the other members of the BO learn about your own onjective, you will fail your task. Killing an innocent member - or exposing a wrong objective - will have no influence on your task (Though you will not get the benefit either).
Punishment: The other members will be told what your task was. You will no lon  ger be able to use all the powers you gained from killing up to that point.


06. PhoenixTears (Ayumi)
Friendship and courage
YOu are working together with Mitsuhiko and Genta is out of town. But what about teh Professor and Ai-chan? And Conan-kun? Maybe they could need some help? Or maybe they could help you?
Objective:Try to use identify on any player who is either Agasa, Haibara or Conan. You don't have to guess their identity correctly. (If the player Schillok was Conan, you could try to "Identify if Schillok is Takagi" and you will still be able to finish your task.
Reward:Using identify on such a player will tell you their correct role. It only works on the first time you succeed, so even if you identify another player with a "friendly role" (Haibara, Conan, Agasa) later, you will not be notified.
Failture:If no more Haibara, Conan or Agasa are in play, you fail your task.
Punishment:Failing would mean that (some of them) were killed... You will feel very sad the following day and be treated like you were frightened by Tequila.


07. xpon (Irish)
Deja-KAWUUM!
You are asked to bring a Black Suitcase to the meeting of a Game Company and exchange it for a suitcase full of information. Sounds easy... but you get the earie feeling like you have heard about a story like that somewhere before...
Objective:Get the Black Suitcase. During the night you can now use the ability "Exchange Black Suitcase". And... say your prayers. ::)
Reward:Uhh... SURPRISE! ::)
Failture:You can not this ability when you are the last Mafia alive. You also fail if the other BO members figure out your Personal Objective.
Punishment:No SURPRISE! for you. :P


08. Abs. (James)
Busy, busy
All your agents are ready to be deployed, the BO is moving into possition and the big confrontation will beginn soon. You are too busy now for anything to get into your way.
Objective:Do not get discomboboulated or frightened during the first 3 nights and days.
Reward:You will get a random report from each of your subordinates still alive at the beginning of night 4. You wil only learn their action during one of the nights, but not which players your subordinates are or from which night the report was from.
Failture:You are getting discomboboulated or frightend during that time.
Punishment:You will have to work down the pilled up work during the next phase. If you got frightened you will not be able to use your abilities during the next night. If you got discomboboulated you will not be allowed to partcipate in the lynch vote the following day.


09. Sherlock3 (Conan)
Dangerous Dance with the BO
To keep those close to you, you will risk everything. Even your own life.
Objective: Have the BO trying to kill you in any way (either by nightly killing or by APTX) - and survive! You will need someone to heal or protect you, or to distract or arrest your killer during the night. Or make them waste and APTX on you by having them think you are someone else or be protected by Kazuhas charm.
Reward:You will get a Stun-Gun Watch that will protect you from being killed (except by snipers) during the night. You will keep the watch until you had to use it. You will also get another charm that will protect you from poison, which you will also keep with you until teh BO tried to poison you again.
Failture: You get yourself killed.
Punishment: You are the strongest weapon of the town... everyone will surely miss you. 


10. Edogawa4869 (Eisuke)
Paradoxon
"May NOT discombobulate themselves, because it will discombobulate the GM." - excerpt from the rules
Objective: Create a discomboboulating paradoxon by discomboboulating another discomboboulating player with discomboboulate or become discomboboulating by another player with discomboboulat yourself. ::)
Reward:You will know the identity of the other player.
Failture: You fail your task if no more players with discomboboulate except for yourself are in play.
Punishment: none


11. CTU (Araide)
Feinted Death
Your live had been threatened by the BO before, but you were saved by the FBI at that time. Why shouldn't things work again that way?
Objective:Get "killed" during night 1 or night 2.
Reward: Your body will be "missing", town will think you were erased and only the BO will know something went wrong. You will have to follow the same rules as a normal dead player (Can't talk, no actions, no voting). However, once your murderer is being arrested or killed, you will be able to return to the town and continue playing normaly.
Failture: Get not killed by the BO. Or get killed by lynching or APTX.
Punishment: You will not die if they don't kill you. ::) Or you are dead if you were killed during the day.


12. Commi-Ninja (Sonoko)
Center of Attention
You are used to be in the spotlights. Actually, that is the time you shine most. It gives you confidence and allows you to show your true abilities. Talking about abilities... after befriending Agent Black you picked up some of the skills of his subordinates. Maybe you should try observing other players as well?!?
Objective: Become the center of attention for one night = Become the target of 6 or more night actions from different players during the same night.
Reward: You will feel confident enough to try "Observing" yourself starting with the following night, allowing you to find out the age and gender of other players.
Failture: You will fail your task if there are 6 or less players (including yourself) left in the game.
Punishment: The BO will get the results as if they observed you themselves (= female teenager).


13. breva (Kobayashi-sensei)
"Now I know my ABCs"
Teaching is your life. Even in a crisis you can't stop doing it. So time to teach your pupils the western alphabet.
Objective: Start each with your sentences in the thread with the letters of the alphabet in the correct order. (Start your first sentence with "A", the second sentence with "B" and so on, until you reach "Z").
Each sentence must start with a capital letter. You are not allowed to have any sentence starting with another letter in between.
However, you are allowed to interrupt the order at any time and continue in your next post. (If you put the letters A-F into your first post, you can continue with "G" in the next one and so on.)
If you interrupt the order, you have to start with "A" again. Once you are done, write me a PM giving the link to the first post that starts your sequence.
When you are done you can continue talking normaly.

Reward: You will be told whom of your pupils (Ayumi, Mitushiko, Genta, Ai, Conan) are in the game. Your pupils will be told that "Kobayashi-sensei tried to teach them something". They will have to figure it out themselves that you are Kobayashi-sensei.
Faiture: You will fail your quest if anyone notices that your posting is "odd" or figures out what you have to do. Keep your task to yourself. Note that the people in the thread will be given some time to notice before you succeed in completing your task. You will also fail if all of your pupil are out of the game before you completed your task.
Punishment: During the next phase change it be noted that you behave strangely.



14. blufbreg (Chianti)
Ignoring order *Intrigue

(Intrigues are tasks that might be directed against other BO members.)

You hate listing to orders. Killing others is what you are living for, and you prefer to search for your own targets. Even if it means acting against the orders of your superiors.
Objective: Kill a threat to the BO instead of the target assigned to you by the BO leader. (A threat is: A FBI agent, someone from the police, Haibara and another BO who is having an intrigue). If another BO is sent to kill, your own killing will take priority and the other BO will fail his/her killing.
Reward: You will be treated as if you were assigned one time less to kill. Meaning you get to kill again sooner.
Failture: You fail our task if all threats are eliminated. Ignoring an order and not killing a thread will not make you fail. Furthermore, you will fail if anyone in the BO figures out your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: Failing your objective will have the BO take away your sniper rifle from you. You will no longer be able to snipe your victims. You can still use your handgun to use "revenge" though. 


15. shihokudo (Camel)
Feinted Death
Your live had been threatened by the BO before, but you were saved by a clever tactic at that time. Why shouldn't things work again that way?
Objective:Get "killed" during night 3 or night 4.
Reward: Your body will be "missing", the town will think you were erased and only the BO will know something went wrong. You will have to follow the same rules as a normal dead player (Can't talk, no actions, no voting). However, once your murderer is being arrested or killed, you will be able to return to the town and continue playing normaly.
Failture: Get not killed by the BO during that time. Or get killed by lynching or APTX, or during any other night than 3 or 4.
Punishment: You will not die if they don't kill you. ::) Or you are dead if you were killed during the day.


16. Hakuba (nomemory)
The enemy of my enemy...
Catching Kaito Kid is important, but right now there are more important things at hand... Beside, you know by chance that Kaito Kid is not in Japan as well. Maybe you can use that information to your advantage?
Objective: Make the BO believe you are Kaito Kid! Get them to poison you as the internatinal thief 1412 instead of your true identity.
To help you achive that you can "fake steal" from other people. Stealing is a crime, but pretending to do so... not. Atleast that is what you tell yourself. (Fake stealing will not take away an item from your target and you can't be arrested for it.)
Reward: You will get the APTX the BO tried to use on you. You can use it to produce an antidote for yourself (You can not be poisoned for the rest of the game), or use it against any other player (including BO) during the day.
Failture: Your gamble is risky... but other than the BO not falling for your sheme you can not fail.
Punishment: none


17. Haibara (Dus)
Mysterious Mail
You have been sent a mysterious letter from... unknown. It is heavily encrypted, but you think you will be able to figure out what it says with some work. However you need to fully concentrate on that task... almost impossible, now that the BO had moved into the town.
Objective: Concentrate one night on decryption. You will succeed if noone targets you with ANY night ability.
Reward: You will know what was written in the letter. It might contain important information.
Failture: You will try every night - however the longer it takes the more likely it becomes that the information in the letter become outdated.
Punishment: none 


18. Agasa (James Rye)
Failed Antidote... or maybe not?!?
You had worked on an Antidote to APTX4869 in secret - you didn't want to get the hopes of Shinichi-kun too high. Like expected it was a failture... However you noticed that it will give you (and only you) the same immunity as Shinichi and Shiho: You would shrink.
Objective: Get poisoned by the BO successfully without them noticing that you want to be poisoned. If they notice your odd behaviour they will likely observe you... and kill you in the defenceless state while you are shrinking or take the antidote away from you.
Reward: You will become GENTA. Genta is with his grandparents and out of town, so you can take his place as an Detective Boy instead. When you were youngh you looked similary to him.  If there are other DBs still in the game you will group up with them. If not, you are on your own. When you become Genta you can be killed by APTX if they use it on you again (either as "Agasa" or "Genta"), so be careful!
Failture: If the BO notices you want to be poisoned, you will fail your task and be killed by the poison normaly.
Punishment: none


19. Holmes (Akai)
Sacrifice
You are ready to give everything it takes to bring down the BO. Everything.
Objective: Get killed by an BO with who has an *Intrigue as their task during the night. (Intrigues are tasks that might be directed against other BO members.)
Reward: Your body will be "missing", the town will think you were erased and only the BO will learn your identity and know something went wrong. You will have to behave like a normal dead player (no lynch voting, only 1 post per day, no talking about the game, no contact to other players). However, you are still allowed to investigate5 at night. At any point during the game you may "return" and participate normaly in the game. Just don't expect to last long with the BO knowing you are back...
Failture: Getting killed by a BO who is not distracted by an intrigue will... well, kill you normaly.
Punishment: You are dead. You will stay dead.


20. delsie29 (Satô)
Something is missing...
You are feeling strange. Like you should have been someone else. Or like if someone stole your identity. And aren't some of you clothes missing? Or maybe you are just imagining things?
Objective:Arrest another player for disguising, or have another member of the police arrest him/her. The arrested could be Kid, Vermouth or Yukiko.
Reward:You will learn their identity, their disguise and whom they took their disguise(s) from.
Failture:You will fail your task when there is no more KID, Vermouth or Yukiko in the game.
Punishment:none


21.KainTheVampire (Jodie)
Setting up a Trap
You are trying to lure out the BO with your own life. A dangerous gamble, but you did not become a FBI agent for nothing!
Objective: Catch a BO! Once during the game you are allowed to "set up a trap" at night. Your fellow FBI colegues will protect you from being killed during that night. If a BO tries to kill you during that particular night, you will survive and the attacker will be auto-arrested instead.
Reward: An arrested BO member should be enough of a reward, don't you think so? ::P
Failture: You will fail if you were attacked by a sniper - the sniper will kill you and escape the trap. You will also fail if the BO does not attack you during the night you set up your trap.
Punishment: The BO will be notified that someone had used FBI agents to set up a trap for them. They will also be notified that this was a once-per-game action.


22. Kaia (Kazuha)
Alone?
You lost contact to Heiji and the Moris. Even worse, you are now in Beika completely alone. Better find out where everyone is, right?
Objective: Find out who of the following people is in the game: Heiji, Kogoro, Ran, Conan. You don't have to figure out who they are, just if they are ingame. Write the GM (me) a PM when you want to guess the correct solution.[/b]
Reward: If you are correct, you will be told the identity of one of them. They will not know about your identity though.
Failture: You have to give your answer before the end of the 3rd day. If you fail to give an answer - or if your answer was wrong - you will also fail your task.
Punishment: The BO will be told that they observe a "teenage girl is walking around the streets alone and in confusion" during the next night.


23. Detective Tommy (Akemi)
For your sister... *Intrigue

(Intrigues are tasks that might be directed against other BO members.)

Your little sister Shiho does probably not know that you are still(?) alive. You had a hard time figuring out what happened to her, but now you know. You have sent her a message, but she did not answer yet...
Objective: Try to keep your sister and the people close to her alive. (Those people are: Agasa, the Detective Boys, Conan/Shinichi and Ran.) When YOU are sent to kill one of them (at night or by APTX) they will not be killed, but instead they will be "fleeing". However if another member of the BO is going for them...
[Detective Boys can't be killed in this game, even by other BO. However, you will not be able to get in contact with them if you were not the one attacking them.)
Reward: If they and you are all alive at the end of the game, you will win the game together with them if the town won. Or, they will win the game together with you if the BO wins.
(If you are the last BO you can give up to stay alive. Or if you are getting arrested you can also win together with the town. Haibara and her friends will also win if the BO outnumbers the town but they are among the survivors.)
Failture: You will fail if any of Haibaras friends, Haibara herself, or if you die. You will also fail if anyone in the BO figures out your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: You can no longer win the game this way. And the town will notice that you "behave odd" when one of the people you tried to protect dies.


24. Sebolains (Vermouth (Okiya))
Silver bullets *Intrigue

(Intrigues are tasks that might be directed against other BO members.)

You have your own ideas what to do with people who pose a danger to your organisation. You prefer having them around... and under control.
Objective: Use "first aid" on the silver bullets when they are about to be killed. The silver bullets are Akai and/or Conan/Shinichi. (At least one of them is in this game.)
Reward: You will be told their identity when you healed them. They will be told that you are Okina, and that your Personal Objective was to heal any other player. Of course they will remain injured.
Failture: You will fail if there are no more "Silver Bullets" in the game. You will also fail if anyone in the BO figures out your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: Your "BO rank" will be below everyone else for the rest of the game. (Determines who can use APTX first and whose orders will get priority in case the leader gives no order during a phase.


25. Parkur (Makoto)
Things more important than sports
So far, sports have been your life. However... you also worry about your girlfriend Sonoko. You would feel much better if you knew that she is well... and what she is doing. You should hurry to find her, since the BO seems to be targeting everyone now.

Objective: Find Sonoko before the end of day 3. Send a PM with the player you think is Sonoko to the GM at any time. You can only send one PM, if it is wrong you fail your task.
Reward: You form a group - similar to lovers - with Sonoko and whoever she befriended. You will both have each others identities be confirmed by the GM. If one of you dies, the others can continue to play.
Failure: You fail your task if Sonoko is killed, if you suspect the wrong player or did not reply until the end of day 3.
Punishment: You will be shaken by your inability to find Sonoko and will be unable to do anything during the next two phases.


26. Eevee (Asami)
"I'm Eisuke!"
You love to play pranks on people and you figured it might be useful during a time like this. Not everyone will agree with you, though...

Objective: Get arrested. Then claim to be Eisuke (and try to prove it, somehow) 3 times in a single phase. Prevent spamming the thread.
Reward: You will be released from prison just as if "lawsuit" had been used on you.
Failture: If anyone shows that you can't be Eisuke, you will fail your task. And remain in prison. So... maybe it is better to not become arrested in the first place?
Punishment: none 


27. Xcommando (Yukiko)
Encore, encore!
You are a great actress... and you feel like nothing can stop you this week. Maybe you can try for an encore?

Objective: Do not get discomboboulated or frightened during the first 4 nights and 3 days and use all of your disguises during that time.
Reward: After you have proven your skills you feel confident that you can try one more role. You may use the disguise of Officer Satô once later in the game.
Failture: You are getting discomboboulated or frightend during that time.
Punishment: none


28. Paix672 (Yumi)
Learning from the Pros
You are just a traffic officer and not that good in investigating yet. Maybe watching someone who knows how it is done can give you a few hints?
Objective: Successfully investigate another player investigating. It does not matter who you investigated, or if it was a "fake" or "special" investigation.
Reward: You will be able to use Investigate: 3 instead of Investigate: 2 for the rest of the game.
Failture: It is never to late to learn. You can't fail this task.
Punishment: none


29. Beastly (Pisco)
Bitter, old man *Intrigue

(Intrigues are tasks that might be directed against other BO members.)

You are old, have killed so many people and seldom achived happyness for yourself. So why should you grant happiness to others?!?
Objective: Figure out the Personal Objectives of 9 other players in the game. Tell the GM (me) what you think they are (Like: "Trying to arrest KID", or "Trying to find Ran") by PM. You can try for each player only once and only while they are still trying to complete their tasks. You can also try to figure out the tasks of yor fellow BO.
Reward: If you guessed correctly, the players task will fail automatically. (You will not be noticed if you were right or not). Once you have figured out a total of 9, you will win the game, no matter the results of your faction.
Failture: You will fail if you can no longer complete your own objective because too many people have completed their objectives, you guessed too many wrong or too many people are out of the game. You will also fail if anyone in the BO figures out your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: Those who failed their objectives because of you will be notified that it was you who stopped them. Fear their wrath...
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Re: Mafia Round 14 - The town strikes back (Town Wins!)

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Dus wrote:
Eve wrote:
pofa wrote:
Kleene Onigiri wrote:
You didn't tell each other? D:
We couldn't or we failed them. And like I said, if we'd done it behind Schillok's back (like xpon and Yuriko did), we couldn't be sure we weren't telling a traitor who would rat on us to Schillok.
::) no seriously, ::)
Which was why I seriously do not like the idea of PO, one bit :P
it's so easy to have "betrayed your group"
:P
Nope, not at all
Dus wrote:
Eve wrote: As someone who did not participate :P
I wanna ask how much everyone likes PO? :-\
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Personally, I knew the POs were the hindrance for BO for sure :P
if we'd been allowed to tell each other what our POs were, maybe it woulda been a bit better, but yeah. Also, if they're anything like xpon's (which was the bomb), they were mostly killing based, which combined with the restrictions on who kills what night would make fulfilling them pretty difficult.
Sorry Schillok but I totally pegged you for a biased GM XD b/c of the PO Idea :P

1. I didn't think you guys would be allowed to tell the other your PO in the first place anyway, and personally, I think PO, since it would be given by the GM, it will be more or less affecting each side.
2. Leading to my point that BO, being their objective of the WHOLE game is to kill, and having to hold up a poker face, PO is not going to be an advantage considering their PO might as well will reveal them anyway. Town on the other hands have not much restriction on PO since their PO, even if it's a hindrance to their ability, they can still gain from it, and have no problem of completing POs without suspicions :P
3. The fact that players who traveled will be notify directly in the phase post? I don't get it? it should not have been that obvious?
4. xpon's way of playing is practically suicides for BO
In conclusion:
I'd rather the game stay originally with no POs, and back to vague hints, since there will be more town roles anyway, and PO is pretty one sided... :-\
@ Kleene, ohhhh, yours and Dus, and James Rye came out as Undefined, :P
And that's why our alliance is awesome. :P
How does this calculator of yours work, anyway?

I thought the POs were a genuinely good idea, if it wasn't for the balancing issues. Maybe there should have been a lot more BOs to make up for that?
HAHAHA.... you cracked me up :P How does having a more concentration of Bo among a large number of townies help? I can bet you anything that it will further decreases BO chances of winning
PO is a good idea if you're town, what I believe is town has 1. Number advantage, 2. Identity advantage which balanced out with BO 1. Less number among more 2. Trust among members
And Po tipped the scale significantly, from my point of view

My Calculator based on keywords that are often used, and like a map it leads to the end result of U, N, and B
Spoiler: My result for this round after Night 1
01. Akonyl B
02. Yurikochan B
03. Conia N
04. Kleene Onigiri U then N then U
05. pofa B
06. PhoenixTears N
07. xpon B
08. Abs. N
09. Sherlock3 N
10. Edogawa4869 B
11. CTU N
12. Commi-Ninja N
13. breva N
14. blurfbreg B
15. shihokudo U
16. nomemory N
17. Dus U then confirmed N
18. James Rye U then confirmed N
19. Holmes N
20. delsie29 N
21. KainTheVampire N
22. Kaia N
23. Detective Tommy B
24. Sebolains B
25. Parkur N
26. Crap4869 N
27. Xcommando N
28. Paix672 N
29. Beastly B
It's NOT 100% accurate though, as result have shown :P
Since some of the BOs PO made them traitors, the BO would have been forced to kill some of their own. They can use to that to better blend in, but if it's true what I've heard then 4 out of 8 BOs were traitors. You can't very well have them all lynched without forfeiting your chances of victory. And a bigger concentration of BOs should make it easier for them, even if it makes it more likely for some of them to be discovered.

And are you just  using keywords from the thread, or from all over the forum or what? Because I doubt you should have had enough material by the end of night one to make such an accurate guess.
Nope, I can guarantee you that with PO, no matter the theoretical reasoning behind it, coupling with Bo's concentration, if it were to increase, chances to win will decrease significantly, if you search into the results a little more, you would noticed ;D

Yep, key words, but not from just mafia thread though, past threads, except round 2, I only take about 6 key words and 3 tones , and yes, from threads in the off topic, mostly FI, etc. but only ranging from the time of round 11 starts to round 13 ends :P
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Re: Mafia Round 14 - The town strikes back (Town Wins!)

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Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Akonyl you should have known that from the Start, I mean I explicitly stated such in the first page, dear :P, should have trusted me more XD
you expect me to remember what other people said that long ago?

anywya, I'm curious, up until the day when I was gonna be lynched, and I just pretty blatantly went around as BO, what did it say about me?
:P I've made it so clear LOL yet :P
musta just skipped over it, oh well. But that includes all my posts I would guess, so I was wondering if it always said I was B or just from the day when I was gonna get lynched.
Schillok wrote: It was no rule. It was just written in your PO. :P
it wasn't just my PO, it was the PM you sent out to everyone at the start:
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Schillok wrote: You have all arrived safely in Beika. Welcome members of the Black Organisation. The ones trying to bring down the town are:

pofa - Anokata
Sebolains - Vermouth
Yurikochan - Bourbon
xpon - Irish
Beastly - Pisco
Akonyl - Calvados
blurfbreg - Chianti
Detective Tommy - Akemi


I hope I did not mess up that one PM because it would ruin EVERYTHING.  ::)
Since I would love to know and understand the strategies and reasonings of you people, I kindly ask you to include me in the PMs you send among each other. Thank you very much.   ;D

Ohh , and you should all have noticed that you should not tell your Personal Objectives to each other. They are personal and not a group work.  ;)

Now, have fun during the game, and good luck everyone!
and my PO also blatantly said that I failed if they learned about it:
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Schillok wrote: 01. Calvados (Akonyl):

Legacy
You don't have a specific desire. You are content the way your life is now. You are living for your Comrades - so if one of them dies for your cause, you feel obligated to carry on their legacy for them.
Objective: Wait until one member of the BO dies who had not finished their Personal Objective yet. You will gain their Personal Objective and can continue it.
Reward: You will gain the same reward as the dead member would have gotten.
Failure: You fail your task under the same condition as the player you got your quest from. You also fail your quest if: a) All BO members finish their Personal Objectives before they die, or b) The other members of the BO learn about your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: none (failing to get a task from another member) -    or the punishment from the BO member you got your Personal Objective from.
sorry, but to me that pretty much blatantly sounds like you're telling us we're not allowed to tell other people about our POs.
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I'm missing something here:
Sebolains was going to kill CTU, but he was discomb, so who saved him? and why did it appeared in the phase change post?
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Well... I kept a log about the game where I wrote down things I noticed. Maybe it can help future games...
Still it is mainly about the game itself. From the GMs perspective.



Spoiler: GM – Log; Mafia Game 14

Being the Game Master is much harder then I expected. But being able to see what people are doing, while the game is running is so much fun. It is worth it I think.
I will write down things I notice, for the players to read and to improve future games. Let us first start with the players and their roles:

Players:

01. * Akonyl - Calvados
02. * Yurikochan - Bourbon
03.   Conia - (Okiya - stolen by Vermouth); Shiratori
04. . Kleene Onigiri - Mitsuhiko
05. * pofa - Anokata
06. . PhoenixTears - Ayumi
07. * xpon - Irish
08.   Abs. - James
09. . Sherlock3 - Conan
10.   Edogawa4869 - Eisuke
11.   CTU - Araide
12. . Commi-Ninja - Sonoko
13.   breva - Kobayashi-sensei
14. * blurfbreg - Chianti
15.   shihokudo - Camel
16. . nomemory - Hakuba
17. . Dus - Haibara
18.   James Rye - Agasa
19.   Holmes - Akai
20.   delsie29 - Satô
21.   KainTheVampire - Jodie
22.   Kaia - Kazuha
23. * Detective Tommy - Akemi
24. * Sebolains - Vermouth (Okiya)
25. . Parkur - Makoto
26.   Eevee - Asami
27. . Xcommando - Yukiko Kudô
28. . Paix672 - Yumi
29. * Beastly - Pisco


8 BO VS 21 town. These numbers seem to favor town so much, but during the past games, they always had found a way to win the game. Maybe it is just too much this time, though.
On town side, things are pretty balanced. Some detectives, some police… well, KID is missing. But in return the FBI has all its members in the field. And Yukiko which could disguise as James Black or Agent Camel for one night.
The BO on the other hand is lacking Gin. I wonder how much him not being in the game will do. On the other hand the town has no way to find this out since the BO got both of the Detector roles. I will see how that develops…



Ohh, not to forget the mayor “innovationâ€
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Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Akonyl you should have known that from the Start, I mean I explicitly stated such in the first page, dear :P, should have trusted me more XD
you expect me to remember what other people said that long ago?

anywya, I'm curious, up until the day when I was gonna be lynched, and I just pretty blatantly went around as BO, what did it say about me?
:P I've made it so clear LOL yet :P
musta just skipped over it, oh well. But that includes all my posts I would guess, so I was wondering if it always said I was B or just from the day when I was gonna get lynched.
Like I said, the end of Night 1 :P after ward though, I'd have to say, the more you post later, (this applies to every one) the more key wordswere hit that weren't hit before to further confirming, except, as you can see, i was wrong about Eric, shihokudo, I have no idea, since I haven't seen her post, or not getting out any tone or key words as a base line at all... :-\ James Rye he's always been BO, so the key was off on him :P, Kleene was because hers has changed a little, Dus because of some strange reason.... I couldn't get his base line,
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@Schillok: The POs are all clever and you clearly spent a lot of time thinking of them. :) But looking at the objectives, the rewards, and the punishments, I still think the BO got the short end of the stick with them.
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pofa wrote: @Schillok: The POs are all clever and you clearly spent a lot of time thinking of them. :) But looking at the objectives, the rewards, and the punishments, I still think the BO got the short end of the stick with them.
*points to title* and ask pofa: Have you look at the Mafia chart? count how many time Schillok has been town, and you'll know where I'm coming from in the first page when I say BO will lose for sure :P

No, it's nothing personal, Schillok is  biased unconsciously is what I'm saying :P
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Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Akonyl you should have known that from the Start, I mean I explicitly stated such in the first page, dear :P, should have trusted me more XD
you expect me to remember what other people said that long ago?

anywya, I'm curious, up until the day when I was gonna be lynched, and I just pretty blatantly went around as BO, what did it say about me?
:P I've made it so clear LOL yet :P
musta just skipped over it, oh well. But that includes all my posts I would guess, so I was wondering if it always said I was B or just from the day when I was gonna get lynched.
Like I said, the end of Night 1 :P after ward though, I'd have to say, the more you post later, (this applies to every one) the more key wordswere hit that weren't hit before to further confirming, except, as you can see, i was wrong about Eric, shihokudo, I have no idea, since I haven't seen her post, or not getting out any tone or key words as a base line at all... :-\ James Rye he's always been BO, so the key was off on him :P, Kleene was because hers has changed a little, Dus because of some strange reason.... I couldn't get his base line,
oh, whoops. So Night 1, eh? I wasn't aware I'd said much on Night 1, aside from my usual stuff, but I guess it depends on if it calls me BO when I'm actually town anyway. :P
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Akonyl wrote:
Schillok wrote: It was no rule. It was just written in your PO. :P
it wasn't just my PO, it was the PM you sent out to everyone at the start:
Spoiler:
Schillok wrote: You have all arrived safely in Beika. Welcome members of the Black Organisation. The ones trying to bring down the town are:

pofa - Anokata
Sebolains - Vermouth
Yurikochan - Bourbon
xpon - Irish
Beastly - Pisco
Akonyl - Calvados
blurfbreg - Chianti
Detective Tommy - Akemi


I hope I did not mess up that one PM because it would ruin EVERYTHING.  ::)
Since I would love to know and understand the strategies and reasonings of you people, I kindly ask you to include me in the PMs you send among each other. Thank you very much.   ;D

Ohh , and you should all have noticed that you should not tell your Personal Objectives to each other. They are personal and not a group work.  ;)

Now, have fun during the game, and good luck everyone!
and my PO also blatantly said that I failed if they learned about it:
Spoiler:
Schillok wrote: 01. Calvados (Akonyl):

Legacy
You don't have a specific desire. You are content the way your life is now. You are living for your Comrades - so if one of them dies for your cause, you feel obligated to carry on their legacy for them.
Objective: Wait until one member of the BO dies who had not finished their Personal Objective yet. You will gain their Personal Objective and can continue it.
Reward: You will gain the same reward as the dead member would have gotten.
Failure: You fail your task under the same condition as the player you got your quest from. You also fail your quest if: a) All BO members finish their Personal Objectives before they die, or b) The other members of the BO learn about your Personal Objective before you completed it.
Punishment: none (failing to get a task from another member) -    or the punishment from the BO member you got your Personal Objective from.
sorry, but to me that pretty much blatantly sounds like you're telling us we're not allowed to tell other people about our POs.
Well, I have to admit I should have put more thought into the BOs personal objectives.
I really intended them to solve their PO alone. 8 people working together on them seemed too easy.

Yeah, some were pretty much impossible to do. Some would not have given much of an advantage (or a very situational advantage). But the same was true for some town PO.


It was the first time trying them out. If there will be another round with PO, the GM will hopefully learn from the mistakes I made...
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And Haibara followed Kleene this night. This could mean that the alliance including Haibara (3 people) and the DB grow together. This happened… unexpectedly quick.
And there's how we won the game. :P
Well, I guess you shouldn't make more than one BO a traitor and let them tell each other their POs. The traitor can just make one up, one that isn't easy to fulfil.
And I love how I don't seem to have a baseline. Is that the reason you haven't written me back in slow mafia? Chicken. :P
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Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote:
Akonyl wrote:
Eve wrote: Akonyl you should have known that from the Start, I mean I explicitly stated such in the first page, dear :P, should have trusted me more XD
you expect me to remember what other people said that long ago?

anywya, I'm curious, up until the day when I was gonna be lynched, and I just pretty blatantly went around as BO, what did it say about me?
:P I've made it so clear LOL yet :P
musta just skipped over it, oh well. But that includes all my posts I would guess, so I was wondering if it always said I was B or just from the day when I was gonna get lynched.
Like I said, the end of Night 1 :P after ward though, I'd have to say, the more you post later, (this applies to every one) the more key wordswere hit that weren't hit before to further confirming, except, as you can see, i was wrong about Eric, shihokudo, I have no idea, since I haven't seen her post, or not getting out any tone or key words as a base line at all... :-\ James Rye he's always been BO, so the key was off on him :P, Kleene was because hers has changed a little, Dus because of some strange reason.... I couldn't get his base line,
oh, whoops. So Night 1, eh? I wasn't aware I'd said much on Night 1, aside from my usual stuff, but I guess it depends on if it calls me BO when I'm actually town anyway. :P
:P Yep, hence that's why I want to run another test in Round 15 before I'm willing to join in round 16 :P Maybe
If everyone style change it'll be even better :P
so far I've only tested in Round 9-14, accuracy fluctuates, but precisions have not :o

:-\ but all in all, the idea of PO need more work if it were to survive, but I don't think it should

@ Dus ;) yep, but keep in mind that was your result on Night 1 in this round, in other words, I didn't stop gathering missing base lines and tones for the rest of the phases 8)
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Your reading of me is rather odd.  I made a conscious decision not to post in the thread from the time Night 1 started, to after I was dead.
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Abs. wrote: @Eve

Your reading of me is rather odd.  I made a conscious decision not to post in the thread from the time Night 1 started, to after I was dead.
::) You're not reading my post carefully, you're one of the 5 exceptions I hit in the key :P
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Eve wrote:
:P Yep, hence that's why I want to run another test in Round 15 before I'm willing to join in round 16 :P Maybe
You clearly shouldn't be allowed to play anymore. That accuracy is creepy.
@ Dus ;) yep, but keep in mind that was your result on Night 1 in this round, in other words, I didn't stop gathering missing base lines and tones for the rest of the phases 8)
And I still don't understand how you could have gotten a reading on people who hadn't written a single post by night 1. Like kaia, who came out town, but didn't write a single post in the entire forum until day 5 started.

And while the POs need worked on, they are a nice addition. We could even have town traitors, if there's no other way to fix the balance.
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