Ai + Conan

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@Chekhov Honestly I don't get how you can like every pairing. Unless it's not really liking them just lt not caring about them or just tolerating them.

[xpon]

tolerating maybe!!!!

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

@Chekhov Honestly I don't get how you can like every pairing. Unless it's not really liking them just lt not caring about them or just tolerating them.

I care, if not in the same order of magnitude as you, and genuinely like most pairings. It's similar to how I can like Black Org characters like Gin and Vermouth while also liking Shinichi and the FBI at the same time even though they are in opposition to one another. While I like the greater level of interaction more than any one particular pairing (i.e. the triangle), they both generate unique character interactions I enjoy, like Ai's banter with and teasing of Conan and how Conan completely fails to deal with it and Ran's dedication and occasional spikes of jealousy and suspicion Shinichi must placate. So yeah, I've got some kind of zen pairing balance going on.

[AICHAN]

@Chekhov Honestly I don't get how you can like every pairing. Unless it's not really liking them just lt not caring about them or just tolerating them.

I care, if not in the same order of magnitude as you, and genuinely like most pairings. It's similar to how I can like Black Org characters like Gin and Vermouth while also liking Shinichi and the FBI at the same time even though they are in opposition to one another. While I like the greater level of interaction more than any one particular pairing (i.e. the triangle), they both generate unique character interactions I enjoy, like Ai's banter with and teasing of Conan and how Conan completely fails to deal with it and Ran's dedication and occasional spikes of jealousy and suspicion Shinichi must placate. So yeah, I've got some kind of zen pairing balance going on.

I have to say I envy you in a way^^at least you can enjoy all the caracters love stories without being bored or annoyed...and no pairing wars for you

[ProfParanoia]

Idk if I would envy him, seems too perfect in a way. Though, yes, you can find one positive aspect in a lot of things.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Idk if I would envy him, seems too perfect in a way. Though, yes, you can find one positive aspect in a lot of things.

From my perspective, it's you who are weird for forcing yourself to dislike one half of a good thing. I mean why limit yourself to only one half when you can have both halves?

[ProfParanoia]

Idk if I would envy him, seems too perfect in a way. Though, yes, you can find one positive aspect in a lot of things.

From my perspective, it's you who are weird for forcing yourself to dislike one half of a good thing. I mean why limit yourself to only one half when you can have both halves?

I don't like anything about ShinRan. I'm not looking past one half of a good thing. I'm looking past something I view as all bad. I don't honestly see a positive to looking just for the good bits. If you watch a movie that's really bad on all accounts but the sound designee was pretty good, do you continue to be neutral on your view of that movie? Do you become neutral on a book because you like the cover?

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Idk if I would envy him, seems too perfect in a way. Though, yes, you can find one positive aspect in a lot of things.

From my perspective, it's you who are weird for forcing yourself to dislike one half of a good thing. I mean why limit yourself to only one half when you can have both halves?

I don't like anything about ShinRan. I'm not looking past one half of a good thing. I'm looking past something I view as all bad. I don't honestly see a positive to looking just for the good bits. If you watch a movie that's really bad on all accounts but the sound designee was pretty good, do you continue to be neutral on your view of that movie? Do you become neutral on a book because you like the cover?

Looking for the good bits isn't necessary because both pairings have lots of obvious interesting interactions in my opinion. No searching is required.
You seem to be convinced that "ShinRan is terrible" is a fact rather than your opinion. Try thinking from the other side's perspective: somewhere between 67-80% of DC fans like ShinRan more than AiCon, so why don't you get it? What's wrong with you?
I think it boils down to pairing intolerance. I don't know whether that's a good thing or not.

[ProfParanoia]

Looking for the good bits isn't necessary because both pairings have lots of obvious interesting interactions in my opinion. In your opinion, which is perfect, my opinion isn't real, I've falsely convinced myself. No searching is required. There is even some searching for AiCon.
You seem to be convinced that "ShinRan is terrible" is a fact rather than your opinion. look above^ Try thinking from the other side's perspective: somewhere between 67-80% of DC fans like ShinRan more than AiCon, so why don't you get it? I've looked everywhere and every way, it's called searching, I've found nothing good. What's wrong with you? Having an opinion that objectionable means there is something wrong with me? Wow fascist much?
I think it boils down to pairing intolerance. I don't know whether that's a good thing or not. Again, your horse is getting tired.

[PokerFace312]

Looking for the good bits isn't necessary because both pairings have lots of obvious interesting interactions in my opinion. In your opinion, which is perfect, my opinion isn't real, I've falsely convinced myself. No searching is required. There is even some searching for AiCon.
You seem to be convinced that "ShinRan is terrible" is a fact rather than your opinion. look above^ Try thinking from the other side's perspective: somewhere between 67-80% of DC fans like ShinRan more than AiCon, so why don't you get it? I've looked everywhere and every way, it's called searching, I've found nothing good. What's wrong with you? Having an opinion that objectionable means there is something wrong with me? Wow fascist much?
I think it boils down to pairing intolerance. I don't know whether that's a good thing or not. Again, your horse is getting tired.

*Facepalm*

[Dus]

Where do you get your figures from?
It all boils down to opinions. The ShinRan interactions are hardly ever obviously interesting in my opinion. There are a few, but I just cannot overlook the inherent cheesiness of the pairing.
HeijixKazuha is only marginally better, and there's no rival pairing for them (apart from HeijixShinixhi)

[PokerFace312]

Yes, but I think it's important to at least TRY to see the ShinRan point of view if your an AiCon fan and vice versa. I, for example, support ShinRan but I still like the AiCon pairing as well and believe that if Conan could never change back to Shinichi he should ultimately end up with Haibara.

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

Looking for the good bits isn't necessary because both pairings have lots of obvious interesting interactions in my opinion. In your opinion, which is perfect, my opinion isn't real, I've falsely convinced myself. No searching is required. There is even some searching for AiCon.
You seem to be convinced that "ShinRan is terrible" is a fact rather than your opinion. look above^ Try thinking from the other side's perspective: somewhere between 67-80% of DC fans like ShinRan more than AiCon, so why don't you get it? I've looked everywhere and every way, it's called searching, I've found nothing good. What's wrong with you? Having an opinion that objectionable means there is something wrong with me? Wow fascist much?
I think it boils down to pairing intolerance. I don't know whether that's a good thing or not. Again, your horse is getting tired.

You are being quite silly. I don't think there is anything wrong with you liking AiCon. I only phrased it in a provocative way to hopefully get you to examine why you believe what you believe. Thinking AiCon is better than ShinRan is fine, but recognize that your preference is an OPINION not a fact. Otherwise you are simply being dogmatic. My point was that reasonable people can come to the opposite conclusion that ShinRan is better; and you are failing to sympathize with the fact that normal people can have opinions different from your own. This is the reason why ship wars get so ugly. I wouldn't be surprised if it was also the reason the AiCon thread has been losing traction compared to the user increase, because AiCon shippers who like ShinRan as well if not as much get frightened away by the rabid hate that goes on in here.

Where do you get your figures from?

Polls.

It all boils down to opinions. The ShinRan interactions are hardly ever obviously interesting in my opinion.

You recognize your pairing preference is your opinion. That's what counts.

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It all comes down to who prefers "sappy romance" or "unique and cool relationship"

[Chekhov MacGuffin]

It all comes down to who prefers "sappy romance" or "unique and cool relationship"

It's about tolerance of the opposing ship and whether intolerance is driving out people who would post here and slowly killing this thread.