Bourbon's Identity: Who is Bourbon!?

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Post by 赤井秀一 (Akai Shuichi) »

Well, I still think that Okiya has to be Akai. The chemistry between Conan and Okiya, it's relodent of the chemistry between Conan and Akai, I always had the same feeling when I saw them together.

But if so, I'd have a new problem: If Akai was Okiya and the person who looks like Akai in the new file, what would be with Okiya? He would have been a senseless character without any meaning or importance because Akai is back again.

So there would be two possibilities then: Either Akai is Okiya and is back as the normal person Akai Shuichi or Okiya is Bourbon and Akai has nothing to do with him or the person who appears to be Akai is someone else and Okiya is Akai... ;)

Damn, only one new happening and there are so many possibilities straight away... ;D
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Rellik wrote: Best and most ridiculous plot i can think of:

Akai appears in front of Conan

Conan is like 'wtf aren't u Okiya in my house'

and a moment l8er Conan: 'oh crap'
That would be so funny  ;D I'd love to see that!!
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sdf1macross wrote:
Rellik wrote: Best and most ridiculous plot i can think of:

Akai appears in front of Conan

Conan is like 'wtf aren't u Okiya in my house'

and a moment l8er Conan: 'oh crap'
That would be so funny  ;D I'd love to see that!!
I think a lot of us would like to see this.  It would be the best Conan mistake ever and advance the plot.
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赤井秀一 (Akai Shuichi) wrote: Well, I still think that Okiya has to be Akai. The chemistry between Conan and Okiya, it's relodent of the chemistry between Conan and Akai, I always had the same feeling when I saw them together.
Totally agreeing with you.
赤井秀一 (Akai Shuichi) wrote: the person who appears to be Akai is someone else and Okiya is Akai... ;)
I'm betting on this one! The only question that remains is who exactly 677!Akai is. I believe it's somebody from BO trying to spy on the 'good side', while posing to be Akai... my first thought was "HELL YES BORBOUN FINALLY!", but now I am not so sure - is Borboun really that good in disguise and pretending? Vermouth would be a better option for this mission, but on the other hand, since I believe Okyia =/= Borboun no matter what, there's no Borboun for me at this point of story, so this would be a great oppurtonity to bring him... I'm torn between Vermouth and Borboun, leaning more towards Borboun.

I was pretty sure of this, but after reading all posts/comments in cbox that said something totally opposite I am not so sure. Still, Borboun = Okiya and 677!Akai = Akai is waaaaaay to simple for now.
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zomg i bet its vermouth and she came to kill Jodie  :o

lol Gosho is dyin to her off since the voice actor is so bad :P
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Rellik wrote: zomg i bet its vermouth and she came to kill Jodie  :o

lol Gosho is dyin to her off since the voice actor is so bad :P
She's not that bad, only when she tries to speak English, then it's painful but hey, it's not like the other V.A.'s are better in that regard (except Heiji..it was like wow, when he spoke english).

I already gave my theory on the Akai= A B.O. member and Okiya=Akai in the "file 677" topic but to have fun, I got another theory. Has anyone given the thought that Okiya is Yusaku Kudo. No, I'm not crazy but it could be possible. Conan has been trying to solve this "case" for a while and shunned his father's help (which would speed things up), so Yusaku took matters into his own hands. He took the personality of Okiya with the help of Yukiko and began living around Agasa's gathering information trying to figure out how to attack the problem.

Things went bad when the apartments burnt down and Conan showed up. He thought this would be the end of his fun game until Conan figured out who he was but still let him keep his cover. By doing this and letting him stay at "Shinichi's" house he knows Conan has issued a detective challenge to him. And reason Conan wants everyone to be secretive around Okiya is to not let his father get an advantage over him with extra information.

Yeah I know Haibara's B.O. sensor disproves this theory but it could of been Bourbon juts happened to be walking by during the Color case. ;D
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ur crazy :P just wanted to say tat lol ;D

anyways i just thot of this point, at the start the paper plane case, Ran saw Okiya and kicked him just under his chin, thinkin tat he was a robber, if Okiya was wearing a disguise, then the mask shud hav shown signs of damage, heck even ripped off.
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maybe he didn't? He wears glasses which make his eyes seem smaller and fake/coloured and differently modelled hair, maybe it was enough to apply some make up? I'm talking about facial make up, making some parts of you face darker and other parts lighter in a professional way can give the impression of a differently shaped face.
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TheBlind wrote: Has anyone given the thought that Okiya is Yusaku Kudo. No, I'm not crazy but it could be possible. Conan has been trying to solve this "case" for a while and shunned his father's help (which would speed things up), so Yusaku took matters into his own hands. He took the personality of Okiya with the help of Yukiko and began living around Agasa's gathering information trying to figure out how to attack the problem.
Or Okiya could be Yuusaku. It would make more sense since I would think Yuusaku would know more about Holmes than Yukiko would. >.>
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Would be interesting and maybe nice if we see Yusaku and Yukiko again, but I doubt that they would pop out of nowhere. If we think of the Halloween Party case, Yukiko was in Japan, sensed that something was wrong and eventually stayed or got later back to their house.

But I miss them too.

By the way, Bourbon indeed seems to be inactive as Jodie said. Then again, he is a detective, and a good investigator won't rampage around and do extreme suspicious things, right?

I thought that maybe Bourbon doesn't exist at all. That would be an interesting twist. But if he exists I think he is Akai. I don't see any other suspicious guy around. @@
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ohnoesmilk wrote:
TheBlind wrote: Has anyone given the thought that Okiya is Yusaku Kudo. No, I'm not crazy but it could be possible. Conan has been trying to solve this "case" for a while and shunned his father's help (which would speed things up), so Yusaku took matters into his own hands. He took the personality of Okiya with the help of Yukiko and began living around Agasa's gathering information trying to figure out how to attack the problem.
Or Okiya could be Yuusaku. It would make more sense since I would think Yuusaku would know more about Holmes than Yukiko would. >.>
Did I miss the joke..or did you miss that? ;D
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If only Kogoro was Bourbon... I really wish Kogoro would solve more cases on his own.
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Kite wrote: maybe he didn't? He wears glasses which make his eyes seem smaller and fake/coloured and differently modelled hair, maybe it was enough to apply some make up? I'm talking about facial make up, making some parts of you face darker and other parts lighter in a professional way can give the impression of a differently shaped face.
dammit stop tryin to destroy evrythin i say :P XD

fine wat about Ran's kick itself, it shud be strong enugh to knock some1 out and yet he just fell down and sayin 'tat hurts' , i dnt think Yusaku is this tough :P
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i still think ran kick in the face wood have taken off any mask    cus man if her kicks  take down doors  make up no prob for her  :P
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exactly :P
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