Mafia Retro Round 48 - BO Wins!

[Callid]

Hmm, this looks quite interesting
Not sure if I will join yet - how long will phases be? :x

Also, I thought it might be interesting to remove the APTX. This will weaken the BO (which has been stated as being to strong) and make a few other things have way more sense (according to the current rules, Megure failing a house arrest will effectively have him die during the next day). As there is no investigate ability anymore, the benefits of telling someone your role are heavily limited, too, and the fact that the town roles now obviously differ in strength means that while "weak" townies can reveal their identity if they want to, "strong" townies (e.g. KID) can't really, as the BO will probably night-kill them. Basically, it allows for even more lying XD

Also, Betrayal isn't explained anywhere

[monsi]

I'll join.

this is my first time so i hope i don't sound like a noob in the game :X

Same here. :x

[miyano_shiho]

o/ I'm not good at lying :xxx

[Kleene Onigiri]

*joins* \o/

Also, I thought it might be interesting to remove the APTX. This will weaken the BO (which has been stated as being to strong) and make a few other things have way more sense (according to the current rules, Megure failing a house arrest will effectively have him die during the next day). As there is no investigate ability anymore, the benefits of telling someone your role are heavily limited, too, and the fact that the town roles now obviously differ in strength means that while "weak" townies can reveal their identity if they want to, "strong" townies (e.g. KID) can't really, as the BO will probably night-kill them. Basically, it allows for even more lying XD

No... just... no... *crawl up into a ball and shaking in fear*

[Conia]

Hmm, this looks quite interesting
Not sure if I will join yet - how long will phases be? :x

Also, I thought it might be interesting to remove the APTX. This will weaken the BO (which has been stated as being to strong) and make a few other things have way more sense (according to the current rules, Megure failing a house arrest will effectively have him die during the next day). As there is no investigate ability anymore, the benefits of telling someone your role are heavily limited, too, and the fact that the town roles now obviously differ in strength means that while "weak" townies can reveal their identity if they want to, "strong" townies (e.g. KID) can't really, as the BO will probably night-kill them. Basically, it allows for even more lying XD

Also, Betrayal isn't explained anywhere

Phases will be 24 hours long, as always. Please join!
Removing APTX would allow townies to leak information to everyone without having to worry over death. APTX was introduced for the BO to have a weapon against many townies being too powerful. Even if I do see your point where there would be more lying involved, taking out APTX would unbalance the game in favor of townies, IMO.
I'll be adding Betrayal description later today if it isn't there.

[Kaito Lady]

*Joins* \o/

I just hope we finish before Nov. ends

[Conia]

*Joins* \o/

I just hope we finish before Nov. ends

It should.

[Kaito Lady]

*Joins* \o/

I just hope we finish before Nov. ends

It should.

\o/ then you can be 100% certain of my participation

[Iwamoto Yuri]

we can join now..?
then I'll join~

[Jecka]

H-how'd you forget to add me?? T_T I was right under Misaki- *sobs*

[phreak_91]

I'll join, I guess, though it would be nice to know when it was starting... or did I miss something?

*pats Jecka*

[Stopwatch]

Hmm, this looks quite interesting
Not sure if I will join yet - how long will phases be? :x

Also, I thought it might be interesting to remove the APTX. This will weaken the BO (which has been stated as being to strong) and make a few other things have way more sense (according to the current rules, Megure failing a house arrest will effectively have him die during the next day). As there is no investigate ability anymore, the benefits of telling someone your role are heavily limited, too, and the fact that the town roles now obviously differ in strength means that while "weak" townies can reveal their identity if they want to, "strong" townies (e.g. KID) can't really, as the BO will probably night-kill them. Basically, it allows for even more lying XD

Also, Betrayal isn't explained anywhere

Phases will be 24 hours long, as always. Please join!
Removing APTX would allow townies to leak information to everyone without having to worry over death. APTX was introduced for the BO to have a weapon against many townies being too powerful. Even if I do see your point where there would be more lying involved, taking out APTX would unbalance the game in favor of townies, IMO.
I'll be adding Betrayal description later today if it isn't there.

Besides, APTX is awesome .

Also, I'm fairly sure Conia made sure APTX couldn't be *too* good for the BO :x.

- The whole BO get capsules with APTX4869 each game. The number of capsules is equal to 1/3 of the (starting) number of townpeople.
- During each day any BO member may attempt to poison another player by sending an PM with that players name and identity to the GM. If the identity (e.g. "Shinichi") was correct that player is killed at the end of the day (after lynching). If the identity was wrong nothing happens (neither the town nor the target will not learn about the poisoning attempt). If the BO tries APTX on KID disguised as Shinichi, the BO must guess that player is KID and not Shinichi.
- In both cases the number of APTX of the BO decreases. (whether it's successful or failed)

So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly (please correct me if I'm not ) say there were 21 Townies, the BO would have 7 non-renewable APTXs and that's it. Makes mass APTXs a lot harder and also reduces the chances of them early in the game because the BO need to find the best people to APTX (and be *utterly* sure of the ID) before using them up. In some ways, the loss of investigate hinders the BO a lot too because it's a lot harder to confirm actions.

[Kleene Onigiri]

- The whole BO get capsules with APTX4869 each game. The number of capsules is equal to 1/3 of the (starting) number of townpeople.
- During each day any BO member may attempt to poison another player by sending an PM with that players name and identity to the GM. If the identity (e.g. "Shinichi") was correct that player is killed at the end of the day (after lynching). If the identity was wrong nothing happens (neither the town nor the target will not learn about the poisoning attempt). If the BO tries APTX on KID disguised as Shinichi, the BO must guess that player is KID and not Shinichi.
- In both cases the number of APTX of the BO decreases. (whether it's successful or failed)

So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly (please correct me if I'm not ) say there were 21 Townies, the BO would have 7 non-renewable APTXs and that's it. Makes mass APTXs a lot harder and also reduces the chances of them early in the game because the BO need to find the best people to APTX (and be *utterly* sure of the ID) before using them up. In some ways, the loss of investigate hinders the BO a lot too because it's a lot harder to confirm actions.

Then again, there can be a "real" mass APTX now
Since you could have ~6 APTXes (depending on the number of BOs in game and APTX available) at once

[Stopwatch]

- The whole BO get capsules with APTX4869 each game. The number of capsules is equal to 1/3 of the (starting) number of townpeople.
- During each day any BO member may attempt to poison another player by sending an PM with that players name and identity to the GM. If the identity (e.g. "Shinichi") was correct that player is killed at the end of the day (after lynching). If the identity was wrong nothing happens (neither the town nor the target will not learn about the poisoning attempt). If the BO tries APTX on KID disguised as Shinichi, the BO must guess that player is KID and not Shinichi.
- In both cases the number of APTX of the BO decreases. (whether it's successful or failed)

So basically, if I'm understanding this correctly (please correct me if I'm not ) say there were 21 Townies, the BO would have 7 non-renewable APTXs and that's it. Makes mass APTXs a lot harder and also reduces the chances of them early in the game because the BO need to find the best people to APTX (and be *utterly* sure of the ID) before using them up. In some ways, the loss of investigate hinders the BO a lot too because it's a lot harder to confirm actions.

Then again, there can be a "real" mass APTX now
Since you could have ~6 APTXes (depending on the number of BOs in game and APTX available) at once

On one hand, yeah that'd be awesome. On the other hand, the best mass APTXs imo tend to be those in waves 3/3, 3/3, 3/3 <-like that three day phases in a row *_*

...I'm not biased or anything!

[Giogio]

:O Yay! I'm in.
No idea how much time I'll have to ally a lot though.

On one hand, yeah that'd be awesome. On the other hand, the best mass APTXs imo tend to be those in waves 3/3, 3/3, 3/3 <-like that three day phases in a row *_*

...I'm not biased or anything!

...oh, I'm sure you'll manage to poison six at a time, Anokata. *is watching you*