Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

[Hoshi, tantei-chan]

Is the answer already in the sentence or not?

[red]

xD guess I didn't make it clear, huh ..... well. guess a word from the sentence provided, that sentence is the clue to a word B)

So the answer is no. It is not in the sentence

[sstimson]

Is it "two questions to each person", "two questions that every one of them answers" or simply "two questions and two answers"?

Spoiler:

And if the island is that small and the tower that big, wouldn't it take one look to figure out where to go?

same as the previous one as in only two questions total, to whichever people you want

unfortunately, you paid attention to the background and got the correct answer anyway, no questions are needed.

Spoiler:

Is that really true. What about if the roads look like this:


                                                              Tower
                                                                   !
                                                                   !
                                                                   !
X                                                                !                                                                 X
   \                                                              !                                                                /
    \                                                             !                                                              /
      \                                                          !                                                            /
      \                                                          !                                                            /
        \                                                        !                                                          /
          \                                                      !                                                        /





Not finished drawing yet. But the point is seeing three road that all seem to head towards the tower. If it is rocky and lots of trees and not set so you could just follow the lines/roads with your eyes, Then if it still true? And as for the middle road, again if it is rocky, or maybe a mountain road the road that starts in the middle might end up far right. You might also think of it like this: A path go down, another level, and a tiny rocky path goes up, All seem to head towards the tower. Which one do you take?

[eworm]

Any one, sstimson. Any one. At worst you'll just have to turn back No big deal on such a small island. No use thinking like that after the riddle's been solved. Are you thinking about the BFR?

And about the newest one...

"Love surrounded by unusually rich voices."

Spoiler:

Could it be... Yell love... "Yellow"?

[red]

@eworm;; good try, but nope. :] Try to figure out the context where the sentence would be used and ask yes/no questions, stuff like that might be able to help xD

[eworm]

It's time for...
Brain-Frying Q&A!
Yaaay!

Hoshi, tantei-chan: Will someone die? If yes, is that person the intended victim?
eworm: No, in the end the murder will be prevented in highly awesome way But that you don't even have to deduce. So, the answer is - no, everybody involved shall survive.


Sorry, red, I have little time to think about yours. Will try to solve it soon.

[Akonyl]

Not finished drawing yet. But the point is seeing three road that all seem to head towards the tower. If it is rocky and lots of trees and not set so you could just follow the lines/roads with your eyes, Then if it still true? And as for the middle road, again if it is rocky, or maybe a mountain road the road that starts in the middle might end up far right. You might also think of it like this: A path go down, another level, and a tiny rocky path goes up, All seem to head towards the tower. Which one do you take?

bolded part of your question's the incorrect assumption, because not only is the island so small, it's also mentioned that it's a desert island. So, not a mountainous or foresty area.

[sstimson]

Not finished drawing yet. But the point is seeing three road that all seem to head towards the tower. If it is rocky and lots of trees and not set so you could just follow the lines/roads with your eyes, Then if it still true? And as for the middle road, again if it is rocky, or maybe a mountain road the road that starts in the middle might end up far right. You might also think of it like this: A path go down, another level, and a tiny rocky path goes up, All seem to head towards the tower. Which one do you take?

bolded part of your question's the incorrect assumption, because not only is the island so small, it's also mentioned that it's a desert island. So, not a mountainous or foresty area.

will get to you but first Eworm

@eworm - Note the people in the riddle

The Originals, from which the people of the peaceful village are descended, who always tell the truth, and built the tower originally
- The Fakers, from which the thieves come from, who always lie, and are said to have furnished the tower originally
- The Connivers, who you can never be quite sure if they're telling the truth or not, and are said to have always hated the tower
- The Meeklys, who are so insecure that they won't talk if spoken to unless someone from another family has already spoken to you, and are said to worship the tower

The first two groups are unlikely to want to protect the TOWER or trap people on the way there BUT the other two is a different story.

We take first #3 - the Connivers. What I want you to notice about them is this - are said to have always hated the tower.This is my question. Would people who hate the tower try to prevent other from getting there, One group people in particular. the Meeklys who "Worship the tower"? Might not the Connivers set traps to prevent the Meeklys from getting to the tower? Yes I know some people can love things to death, but I think the first two groups, the Originals, and the Fakers as TOWER caretakers. Those two groups want others to be able to enjoy the TOWER that a lot of those first two group labor and resources went into. They are likely to also try to keep the route to the tower open so others can get there.It is likely to be a game between them and any who might try to either want the tower to themselves like the Meeklys or Connivers who are the most likely to keep others from the place of their hatred.

That brings us to the Meeklys who worship the TOWER. They are likely to want to set traps to prevent others from getting to their area of worship. They Might have set up this kind of riddle as a test of worthiness to be able to go to their TOWER. They might set death traps to those who fail their test, as they have proven unworthy and as such must not be allowed to enter their Worship grounds. Those who return alive from the wrong ways might have proven themselves worthy for another chance. Note that these death traps as not being on the right path are likely to not be removed from the first two groups. Also to further test those that go on the right path that they are indeed worthy to enter the Worship grounds will set a few traps on the right road that the first groups try to keep safe.

So Eworm if I am right, if you pick the wrong path, you miht not make it back to try the right one, and even if you choose the right path, You should take a member from either one of the first groups if you want to be sure you make it there alive.

now for you Akonyl See this

@Akonyl - Desert Island. Yes It is a Wikipedia article, However it still rings true. See these as well
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/desert+island
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/desert+island
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/desert-island

By those defintions make you idea of a non forest flat lsland unlikely. First factor is the tropics. This area of the climate is an area where a lot of rain falls so it would not be a desert like the barren region. Second most islands are in oceans. They start on the ocean floor and go up to reach the ocean surface. The atolls are unlikely to be able to built such a nice tower on. That leaves the Volcanic. By their very nature, these island will have mountains. And sine they are in the tropics are very likely to have trees.
One final note on desert islands, the Devon Island has a climate that would be desert like, but it contains several small mountain ranges.

[VQ]

Ok, this looks not boring. I'll try to solve red's riddle.

My question to red: Is the sentence part of a poem or song?

BTW I am new to these forums, can I post a puzzle? whatever:

Under certain conditions these equations are correct:

8-6=2
8+6=2
7+6=?

Find ?
Hint: Hand

[eworm]

  @ sstimson - I don't get why you're so stubborn about reviving the already solved riddle. If you have time to think about that, concentrate on the Brain-Frying Riddle #4 or the red's riddle. Or both. The correct answer to Akonyl's riddle was "Just go where you see the tower is". Get over it!

  @ Victorique - I also watch Gosick However, the rules of the thread state that there can be only one riddle going at the time - only exceptions being my Brain-Frying Riddles and Kogorou's Borner Cases. So let's say your riddle is on-hold for now, and we'll go back to it after a) you solved the red's one, or b) red's isn't solved by anybody. Okay?
  Anyway, welcome to the thread. It would be an honor to have Gray Wolf/Golden Fairy participate in the solving of my Brain-Frying Riddle #4  ;)

  @ red

Spoiler:

Would it make a difference if we changed "rich voices" into "loud voices"?

[red]

@VQ;;

Spoiler:

Is the sentence part of a poem or song? nope

@eworm;;

Spoiler:

Would it make a difference if we changed "rich voices" into "loud voices"? yeah

[VQ]

Next question to red: Is the answer related to music?

[sstimson]

@Vq Base 5?

Hand has five fingers numbered 0-4

so eight lands on finger 3

Removing six lands on finger 2

Starting on finger 3 ( see above )

adding six lands on finger 2

Seven starts on finger 2

adding six lands on finger 3

so is the answer 3?

@Eworm, do not worry about your riddle. I'm about done with my KILLER answer.

By the way I am not being "stuborn'. I just having fun using my imagination to play what if using the riddle text and trying to find the hidden things that are in the riddle. It can be fun. Try it sometime.

It can also at times be fun to "be stubborn"

[red]

Spoiler:

Next question to red: Is the answer related to music? yes :]

[c-square]

Hmm, we'll have something simpler xD Guess one word from this sentence:

"Love surrounded by unusually rich voices."

Does the word have the letters l, o, v and e in it?