Shinichi+Ran or Conan+Ai?

[Eve]

Yes, but just because the world is total bull, doesn't mean Shinichi+Ran is bull.
My point was that Shinichi+Ran is still possible, even in real life.

Shinran is Still possible, so is Conan + Ai, and something with more substance than puppy love will lasts longer if you're talking about real life

It's a possibility that their love will grow.
Basically, I'm saying that in the show: Shinichi+Ran is more realistic while Ai+Conan is unrealistic.
And in real life, both are possibilities.

Even though you can't really say Ai+Conan is a possibility in real life.
Because if Shinichi wasn't APTX, and neither was Shiho - then your point that they can "understand each other" wouldn't exist.

Ai+Conan without the shrinking we won't even have this discussion, so really, you're just shooting no where with the real life thing... back to the book

Exactly how are my arguments biased? Just because I like Ran? I like Ai too, just not with Conan. I've stated this before.
I find your statement that my arguments are non-valid, pretty non-valid.
And your lack of realism regarding the manga is a problem.

No really, realism in manga, that's contradictory


Tommy you're confusing me, AI+Conan is possible in the manga because of their developing relationship! She understands him, the reason you said she doesn't because you haven't specific look for those moments

[Detective Prince]

So you think....that childhood friendship from like 4 years old or so...with people that can sense or whateverit is when the other is in danger or thinking about them is actually realistic...opposed to two people who think similary, have an awesome connection,  and work well together?

I'm sorry but now I'm sure your arguements are invalid >_______________>

[ProfParanoia]

With "being unnecessarily technical" I was speaking of the fact you said since the shows shrinking can't happen, neither could the connection of Conan and Ai.

I also said every form of love can happen in the real world technically (eg Adult and Child, human and animal, me and you) but the connection of  a major psychical problem and working together to overcome it is much more plausible of a relationship starter then two kids who had a crush when they were 8 and get on each-other's nerves in seconds.

[Detective Prince]

If he wants to talk about realistic and unrealistic...Ai's hair a normal perm I've seen it before, not many times, but I have. Ran...on the other hand (hey that rhymed ^_^). Must we go into that horn on her head . I think not

Yes that has nothing to do with the relatonship...just pointing that out

[Detective Tommy]

@Khinkhun,
- I was stating that both are possibilities. Most of you AiCon fans are saying that Shinichi+Ran is improbable in real life. And how is Shinichi+Ran puppy love?
- You basically proved my point. So you're Ai+Conan discussion is shooting nowhere.
- I didn't say that. I'm saying that Ai+Conan is unrealistic because Shinichi likes Ran.

@Detective Prince,
- I'm not saying that it's impossible.
- Also, your arguments are invalid. You're basing Ai+Conan as a possibility in real life, with their relationship in the show. But their relationship in the show is possible due to the APTX (which isn't real).

@ProfParanoia,
- You guys say that Conan+Ai understand each other, right? Please EXPLAIN TO ME HOW. Please explain to me this, before we continue the argument.
- I've said the same.. that any love is possible. So you guys can't say Shinichi+Ran is improbable in rl.

[ProfParanoia]

@ProfParanoia,
- You guys say that Conan+Ai understand each other, right? Please EXPLAIN TO ME HOW. Please explain to me this, before we continue the argument.
Ask them, they said it.
- I've said the same.. that any love is possible. So you guys can't say Shinichi+Ran is improbable in rl.
It's improbable, when two people like them grow up together they become desensitized to any kind of romance to each-other (almost in every case, which would mean improbable).

[Detective Tommy]

Why can't you explain it?
Well, I'll say this:

You guys think Conan+Ai understand each other, because they were both APTX. They can relate, in dealing with the BO. They are both very intelligent.

1) In the show, they have a relationship. But I doubt they will be together since Shinichi loves Ran.
2) You said that Conan+Ai can connect in real life, without the APTX. Explain to me how - since neither would have been poisoned, and neither would relate in dealing with the BO. Both would be very intelligent. But Ran is intelligent too.


It's still possible.
I guess possible, could also mean improbably.

[Detective Prince]

You guys think Conan+Ai understand each other, because they were both APTX. They can relate, in dealing with the BO. They are both very intelligent.

We never said because they are 'both APTX' whatever that means. Not only are they intelligent but they think the same way, and thats far from the only reason why they are more compatible.

1) In the show, they have a relationship. But I doubt they will be together since Shinichi loves Ran.
2) You said that Conan+Ai can connect in real life, without the APTX. Explain to me how - since neither would have been poisoned, and neither would relate in dealing with the BO. Both would be very intelligent. But Ran is intelligent too.

1)I'm not sure what you said that for
2)They are very similar they connect in ways Ran and Shinichi probably could never. Your acting like without the BO they'd have nothing to talk about or something and Ran is far from Conan and Haibara's intelligence. She's normal.

[ProfParanoia]

Why can't you explain it?
Well, I'll say this:

You guys think Conan+Ai understand each other, because they were both APTX. They can relate, in dealing with the BO. They are both very intelligent.

1) In the show, they have a relationship. But I doubt they will be together since Shinichi loves Ran.
2) You said that Conan+Ai can connect in real life, without the APTX. Explain to me how - since neither would have been poisoned, and neither would relate in dealing with the BO. Both would be very intelligent. But Ran is intelligent too.

I said if they had a psychical problem that could replace the shrinking, the BO could still be involved. The sharpest thing about Ran is her horn. I wont bring up how they "understand each-other" because that's not my part of the argument.

[Detective Tommy]

We never said because they are 'both APTX' whatever that means. Not only are they intelligent but they think the same way, and thats far from the only reason why they are more compatible.

1)I'm not sure what you said that for
2)They are very similar they connect in ways Ran and Shinichi probably could never. Your acting like without the BO they'd have nothing to talk about or something and Ran is far from Conan and Haibara's intelligence. She's normal.

Okay, you keep saying they're compatible but give no explanation as to how they're compatible.

1) I said it because it connects to my point.
2) That's not how I'm "acting" like. You guys said that Conan and Ai relate. But how? You guys said they can relate because of their situation. But their situation is impossible in rl.

I wont bring up how they "understand each-other" because that's not my part of the argument.

But without saying how they understand each other, there is no argument.







Okay. I'm asking for how you guys see Ai+Conan as compatible because from past statements, I recall someone saying that they can relate because they were both APTX'd, and have problems with the BO.

1) You guys admitted that Shinichi+Ran is more realistic IN the Anime.
2) You guys said that Conan+Ai is more realistic IN real life. But you guys are using proof from the manga/anime to argue why they're more compatible in real life. But that's invalid since their relationship most likely would be different in real life.

[ProfParanoia]

I wont bring up how they "understand each-other" because that's not my part of the argument.

But without saying how they understand each other, there is no argument.
I never said they did. And it's not a part of my argument, you group me with them.


You love dat enter key.



Okay. I'm asking for how you guys see Ai+Conan as compatible because from past statements, I recall someone saying that they can relate because they were both APTX'd, and have problems with the BO.

1) You guys admitted that Shinichi+Ran is more realistic IN the Anime.
And that the anime logic is BS.
2) You guys said that Conan+Ai is more realistic IN real life. But you guys are using proof from the manga/anime to argue why they're more compatible in real life. But that's invalid since their relationship most likely would be different in real life.
I never used anime/manga as proof. I also said it could be easily change to a real life situation where you have the same components really

Even if your right, in the end ShinRan is just poorly written and presented. AiCo as a relationship just wins by default.

[Detective Prince]

Ok...For one we are using proof in the anime because obviously they would have the same personalities or else this would make sense. Also your putting words in our mouths (pause), I never say because of their situation, I don't care bout their situation. My arguement is because they understand each other on a very high level and now your trying to make me explain that, I would, but apparently you don't want proof from the anime?

Well I say it anyways. Shinichi and Ran is "realistic" in the manga/anime because well its manga/anime anything can happen in there. In real life they are very unrealistic which is probably Gosho created it.

Ai and Conan however, they know each other well, and even in a very short time. Ai knows what Conan would be thinking at times, what his expressions mean, just everything about him she knows well better than anyone and vice versa. I guess you'll argue that Ran knows him better now? I guess you can try but I'ma need some proof, some realistic proof.

Plus I never admitted that ShinRan was more realitic in the anime until now so stop with the puting words in my mouth! (Pause) lol

Damn you! Made me make such a big post.

[Detective Tommy]

I never said I don't want proof from the Anime, so I see you're putting words in my mouth?
Anyways, I would love reasons as to why Ai+Conan are compatible.

Yes, Ai knows what Conan thinks, what his expressions mean, etc.
But if you took a class, such as psychology, you can obtain the skill to know what people's expressions mean. You can tell why people act the way they do, etc.

... I said you guys. Maybe you weren't classified as part of it. So I'm not putting words in YOUR mouth.

My final statement:
Shinichi+Ran are probably going to end up together in the Anime.
Ai+Conan is possible in real life, and so is Shinichi+Ran. Possible is the key word. I'm not saying they're more probable.

[ProfParanoia]

I never said I don't want proof from the Anime, so I see you're putting words in my mouth?
Who are you talking too?
Anyways, I would love reasons as to why Ai+Conan are compatible.
Why wouldn't they be? Right right, bad writing.
Yes, Ai knows what Conan thinks, what his expressions mean, etc.
But if you took a class, such as psychology, you can obtain the skill to know what people's expressions mean. You can tell why people act the way they do, etc.

... I said you guys. Maybe you weren't classified as part of it. So I'm not putting words in YOUR mouth.
Your just dodging putting words in our mouth.
My final statement:
Shinichi+Ran are probably going to end up together in the Anime.
Which is a major flaw of the show.
Ai+Conan is possible in real life, and so is Shinichi+Ran. Possible is the key word. I'm not saying they're more probable.
So that statement meant nothing.

[Detective Tommy]

I was talking to D.Prince.
Why would they be? Right right, bad writing...
You don't know that. Maybe I wasn't talking about D.Prince.
It's not a flaw. Gosho wrote the storyline, if you're unhappy don't watch the show.
I wrote it, therefore it meant something. Your statement meant nothing.