Espionage - Round 5 (Spy and Informants Win)

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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 2)

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Stopwatch wrote: Your punctuation is odd, and has been since D1. Perhaps you could explain?
I just found this... How I could have missed it!? How come my punctuation is odd? If it's the use of three dots(...) then let me tell you: I use them all the time. Just take a look on anything I've ever written.

I read rhis thread once again and I have tried to get some conclusions... Nothing yet... But doesn't that no kill see like spy is framing me? Or am I just being overly paranoid?

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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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Okay. I have roughly 30 minutes until I have to go to school, so I won't re-read this again.
I apologise for any kind of mistake it mai contain. >:(
Togop wrote: Dimytru's kinda acting more quiet than usual this game.

Anyway, no kill day 2? Since there was no lynch, it didn't simply coincide with the lynch. Since there was no self-vote, it wasn't due to inactivity. Instead, it was intentional no-kill. I would concieve it being due to unidentified informamt, but there was a kill yesterday!
Yup, that's not my name.
This Round is kinda quiet anyway.

No kill Day 2. SA & Togop pretty much summed it up.
This means the Informant must be one of the less inactive players (or the Spy is really dumb).

But then, assuming the Spy sent identification orders: there are three orders.

What could've gone wrong? The Spy missed the ID, the ID was too ambiguous (though what kind of Spy would do that?) or the informant didn't do the order.
First two depend solely on the Spy, so there's not much to talk about.
The last is pretty much impossible. There's no way the Informant wouldn't do the order on purpuse, and nobody was inactive.
If the problem is not unidentification, then I don't see any reasons why the Spy wouldn't kill.
I don't see any advantages with that kind of strategy. I'll think about it and post if I get to any results.
This is a message to all the players: We need to start discussing already!
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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Togop wrote:Fujiwara, what did I do to deserve your vote?
Hm, nothing much, really. You seemed a bit different from usual and I didn't really have a lot to go on, to be honest. Sorry. ^_^
shinichi'sapprentice wrote:
Togop wrote: You can actually change the order instead of challenging the strategy - a lot less conspicuous, and what I think Fujiwara would have done if she was a spy and the no-post idea was obstructing her.

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nobody even thought that Day 1 would have lesser activity. again, there was no consensus that we should go through with the 'Ditch Day 1' that's why the spy might have decided to continue with the informant identification order and didn't change it. and for the first 12hours of Day 1, one informant has been posting... the second informant might have done the same, or waited till more people posted, or altogether, decided on not posting at all to be safe and/or that's why the spy failed to identify second informant.
If I were the spy, I wouldn't need to be certain as to whether the 'Ditch Day 1' strategy would be implemented, I could just send a conditional order:

Dear Informant,
If we go through with the 'Ditch Day 1' strategy, do X
If we don't, do Y


Problem solved. :-X

EDIT: As I mentioned before, I won't be around a lot today. I'll try to read everything and maybe make a short post, but don't expect anything more than that, 'cause Spoilers~ :P
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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Alright, the weekend is coming and, hopefully, everyone's going to be more active.

I'm still thinking about why the spy didn't kill. I wonder what kind of advantages would give him/her. Though, the more I think about it, the more I believe the spy didn't identified the second informant.

Now, I said that no informant would refuse to do the order.
From that we can conclude that the second informant isn't one of the inactives (by that I mean the players who posted little). It's very unlikely the spy wouldn't notice the ID in such few and small posts.

I want to hear you thoughts on well as well though.
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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@ MoonRaven
I find you a bit suspicious, that's why. it's not the punctuation though.

And I've been rethinking the fake investigate thing.

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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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Yuri Iwamoto wrote:@ MoonRaven
I find you a bit suspicious, that's why. it's not the punctuation though.
I think he's just acting strange because it's the first time he plays Espionage.
I'm not saying he's a civilian for sure though.
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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dumytru wrote:
Yuri Iwamoto wrote:@ MoonRaven
I find you a bit suspicious, that's why. it's not the punctuation though.
I think he's just acting strange because it's the first time he plays Espionage.
I'm not saying he's a civilian for sure though.
she. and possibly.
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Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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more than 200 users online. damn. it's that hype whatever's happening in the manga right now, eh? i hope after reading whatever they're reading, more discussions come into this thread. help our detective. ;D

--edit: tried sneaking in in the story discussion board, squinted my eyes, hands covering my face, and rushed to the bottom of the page. and yup, they're all there. xD come down here, people!

anyway, really, no other ideas?
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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I just got back from work. I couldn't stop grinning there when I read the Chinese file. Sorry, off-topic.

So... I'm out of ideas execpt that I doubt that Togop is the spy. The self-vote on the first day pretty much says it all since we all were in the dark mostly.
Pity that so many are quiet. I'd like to learn more about their thoughts in order to learn whether or not they are trustworthy. We are still in quite dark since the lists don't say that much especially on this round when they aren't partially revealed.

I think I'm off to other parts of the forum now. To join the hype better. It's the middle brother as Okiya, you know! I'm sure of it!
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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did she just... murder me with spoilers... asdfghjklieidujeu keep your manga hype away from me x_X

anyway anyway anyway... no other spy suspects at all??? any more fake investigates..?
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Oi, no spoiler! I'm totally behind with the manga :V


Didn't say my Inv... I mean fake investigate yet: SA not spy
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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shinichi'sapprentice wrote:anyway anyway anyway... no other spy suspects at all??? any more fake investigates..?
I don't know. There's not much activity, even though everybody is following the topic.

And yeah, spoilers. Fortunately, I don't understand what she meant.
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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I didn't... Oh! You don't read manga at all?! I'm sorry! It's just my theory you know... Nothing is certain at this point(do you even know about the middle brother?). Okay, I shall shut up about this.

Other spy suspects? There's a couple of people who struck me weird but this far there's too many of them. I guess my vote shall go quite randomly again. Although I need to tactic a bit towards someone who strikes suspicious to others too since I obviously seem suspicious to many(I was almost lynched last night!).

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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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MoonRaven wrote:I didn't... Oh! You don't read manga at all?! I'm sorry! It's just my theory you know... Nothing is certain at this point(do you even know about the middle brother?). Okay, I shall shut up about this.
There are many people who don't read the manga. Some didn't even watched the lastest episodes of the anime.
Let's just talk about the game here, just to be safe.
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Re: Espionage - Round 5 (Day 3)

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any part of the forums that is not story discussion board is life-threatening for us non-manga readers. there's a reason why i'm only found in this section of the forums. even the general discussion board has been a dangerous place for me. i'm trying my best to get back to watching again, i believe i've been missing a lot of hype T_T, but it's too life consuming :D but i'll try to get there!

anyway, any more fake investigates..? no spy suspects either??? T_T
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