Rum Arc Discussion Thread (Plot + Characters)

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

Bigger proof, their eyebrows differ.
I do acknowledge that both of them had stemmed from the same averagely built, middle aged, balding male character model.

You can also compare the eyebrow of the inspector and the eyebrow of a Chikara .
Shoghi players appear on TV and in front of all people , so they care about their appearance and always carry a mirror as Haibara said refering to Haneda Kohji's mirror .
When you are just an inspector, not like when you are a famous shogi player , so I expect that Chikara performed plastic surgery and led to some change in his appearance as football players do , by operations on their face and change some of their shape .

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

if i good remember Chikara's daughter was a suspect for a crime in the case in which she appear, so he add a identification card for this. Chikara never was a suspect for a case and in the same way the inspector that you mentioned

I do not think this is sufficient reason not to show an identification card to Chikara and the inspector either .
If I remember well in the first appearances of Wakita,Wakasa Rumi, Bourbon, Kuroda and Haneda Shukichi were not suspected of any crime but ppeared to them an identification card . Chikara appeared twice and is expected to appear a third time , so it isn't required to be a suspect in your first case to know his age and his name .

If Chikara is Wakita , do you expect that through some physical resemblance between them only ??
Wakita was not a suspect in the first case , and his card appeared .
Chikara does not put an eye patch on his eye , and his eyes are different in all panels , so it is likely that his eye is artificial .
While Wakita puts an eye patch on his eye , if your eye is as artificial as a chikara , why do you put the eyepatch also ??
I do not think that Rum appears to any ordinary member of the BO as you say that Rum does not mind revealing his identity to Bourbon , we see Rum communicating through messages with his followers so I see actions of the unknown person who is Rum and Wakita Kanenori are completely different , while it seems Chikara for me is the very right person to be Rum .

[Kudo Shinchi]

So I'm 99.99% certain Rumi isn't Rum. That leaves Kuroda and Kanenori. I'm more inclined to think it's the former, though I admit that's at least partially because I think he would suit the role better. He looks the part, and having a BO agent who successfully infiltrated the highest levels of Japanese law enforcement would go a long way to repairing the damage done to the BO's credibility by the influx of spies in recent years--and again, it'd be fitting for the BO's second-in-command to have maneuvered himself into such a threatening position. It's a perfect narrative opportunity. Take it, Gosho!

Now, there are some persuasive arguments for the "Kuroda=Rum" theory, but I feel they ultimately can't overcome a crucial piece of counter-evidence: Kuroda was a high-ranking NPA officer, and he seemingly knows that Bourbon is PSB agent. Kuroda seemingly went out of his way in the recent Snowy Mansion case (1027-1031) to protect Amuro's cover. It's difficult to see Rum, with his oft-touted impatient personality, waiting to take action if he knew Amuro was a double agent. Beyond that, we've seen Kuroda address Amuro as Bourbon and seemingly ask him about his request for info on Kudo Shinchi. We don't actually know what it is he requested from Amuro, though, only that it made Amuro recall his meeting with Akai and the Kudos. Seeing as we don't know what happened in that meeting, we can't actually draw any conclusions from this scene. Yet, based on the way it's presented, we're very clearly meant to think that Kuroda is Rum reiterating his request for information about Kudo. This sort of overtly suspicious presentation is classic Gosho misdirection. I'd welcome any alternative explanations, ones which still leave "Kuroda=Rum" a viable position to take.

Kanenori is a strange case. Most of the strongest evidence for him is meta in nature, which unfortunately has proven accurate in the past (see: the names of the Bourbon arc characters). However, every suspect is this arc has an obviously suspicious name, so that might not be damning evidence. Then there's the fact that his role is a near-literal rehash of Bourbon's in the immediately preceding arc. Gosho is aware of this (how could he not be), as the similarities have been lamp-shaded by Conan and Wakita himself. Would Gosho so brazenly repeat himself? He definitely has before (Eisuke=Sera, Kir=Bourbon), but even for him this would be a bit much...

[Zerozaki4869]

but I feel they ultimately can't overcome a crucial piece of counter-evidence: Kuroda was a high-ranking NPA officer, and he seemingly knows that Bourbon is PSB agent.

There is a very persuasive argument that Kuroda (if he is Rum) can't do shit now cause of the backlash from NPA. If Bourbon's cover gets blown just after Kuroda got the hang of things, it will look supremely bad for Kuroda and NPA backlash is the last thing that he would want as Rum.

Kuroda seemingly went out of his way in the recent Snowy Mansion case (1027-1031) to protect Amuro's cover.

There is a catch, Kuroda called Kansuke from a different number which the latter didn't even recognise. Why would he need to do that ?
Just call Komei directly. As if Kuroda wanted to steer clear of this issue as much as possible under the circumstances. Which looks off.

we've seen Kuroda address Amuro as Bourbon and seemingly ask him about his request for info on Kudo Shinchi.

All we know is that Kuroda asked Bourbon about the other job and he instantly recalled the Kudo house scenario. So it is very likely that Kuroda was talking about Bourbon's BO mission.

Yet, based on the way it's presented, we're very clearly meant to think that Kuroda is Rum reiterating his request for information about Kudo. This sort of overtly suspicious presentation is classic Gosho misdirection.

There is something else which we should consider about this man.

He debuts as a suspicious man--> Gets the possibly harmless certificate by Conan----->Meets Haibara, she clears him off and postulates how he can't be Rum---->He tails Rumi to the camping ground------> Haibara gets triggered, the situation pointed to Rumi as the source-----> Kuroda calls Amuro and tells him to help Conan in solving a Police case (Given the previous scenarios and the nature of the request it totally presents us that Kuroda has called Amuro as his NPA boss. If it had been a message it could have been thought of as a misdirection.)-----> Kuroda calls Kansuke from an unknown number and tells him to switch the phone to Morofushi.

So he can be considered a firewall suspect with too many suspicious nuggets about him ?
Sounds familiar, of course he is just like Vermouth disguised as Araide.

Also just a little note on how Gosho uses misdirection.....
Remember the bus-jacking case from Vermouth arc.
a) Conan wanted a Lipstick.......
b) Vermouth thought what could you possibly do with it ? (To imply she is inside the bus)
c) Jodie rolls the lipstick to Conan, with an expectant look.
d) Vermouth thinks again, "Show me your magic."

About meta hints, there is something peculiar about them,

Rumi ---> A mask wearing female Yaiba appearing in a Kamen Yaiba show. (As if an actress to play out the woman/female role.)
Wakita----> Boss' closest associate appearing in Kamen Yaiba show. (As if an actor acting out Rum's role has appeared.)

These aren't direct hints like (Bourbon/Red Guy) these are transverse hints.

[Kudo Shinchi]

There is a very persuasive argument that Kuroda (if he is Rum) can't do shit now cause of the backlash from NPA. If Bourbon's cover gets blown just after Kuroda got the hang of things, it will look supremely bad for Kuroda and NPA backlash is the last thing that he would want as Rum.

I'm not following this line of thinking. Why would Bourbon's cover getting blown be immediately linked to Kuroda specifically?

All we know is that Kuroda asked Bourbon about the other job and he instantly recalled the Kudo house scenario. So it is very likely that Kuroda was talking about Bourbon's BO mission.

Yes, my point is that, based on how the scene is constructed and presented, we are meant to think that Kuroda's knowledge of Bourbon's BO message makes him RUM, so the opposite is likely true. You might disagree.

He debuts as a suspicious man--> Gets the possibly harmless certificate by Conan----->Meets Haibara, she clears him off and postulates how he can't be Rum

It is quite strange that at this point neither Haibara or Conan consider Kuroda a viable RUM suspect, yet he's still presented as a suspect to the viewer. Kuroda, through Haibara, is more or less exonerated a couple of cases after his introduction. Since then the focus has largely been on Wakita and especially Rumi, which makes one think that Gosho is misdirecting us away from Kuroda.

We know that Haibara's BO sense has dulled since since Sherry "died," in some cases dramatically--for example, she failed to detect Vermouth, her mortal enemy, when she and Bourbon appeared in disguise at the shrine (850-852). So Haibara no longer provides a reliable BO radar. Her sensing nothing around Kuroda doesn't necessarily mean anything, and the reasoning she uses to dismiss him (Rum would have recognized me as Sherry and come after me) is rather weak. As far as we know, no one in the BO but Vermouth knows that Sherry shrunk, and anyways she supposedly blew up on the Mystery Train, so why would a little girl with a passing resemblance to Sherry immediately capture Rum's attention? The speed with which Haibara stopped taking Kuroda seriously smacks of misdirection.

Rumi ---> A mask wearing female Yaiba appearing in a Kamen Yaiba show. (As if an actress to play out the woman/female role.)
Wakita----> Boss' closest associate appearing in Kamen Yaiba show. (As if an actor acting out Rum's role has appeared.)

Interesting observation. Also worth noting that no such meta hint appeared in Kuroda's introduction chapter.

Reviewing Kuroda's introductory case, two things jumped out at me:
1) We're told that he emerged from his coma looking like a "completely different person" in a case whose trick revolved around fake deaths and body swaps. The strong implication is that this Kuroda isn't the one who went into the coma.
2) The murder victims were all members of the "Woodpecker Association," a corrupt organization within the police force. Perhaps this is a stretch, but might this be an oblique hint that the BO has infiltrated the police force via Kuroda? Again, maybe a stretch.

I also took a look at the Scriptwriter Murder Case (906-908), where we first get the various descriptions of Rum. The case resolution involves all three suspects being in cahoots and conspiring to tamper with the police's investigation. We might've taken this as a hint that all three Rum suspects are Rum, but Gosho has ruled that option out. Just spitballing here, but perhaps all three Rum suspects are indeed associates in some way, maybe even fellow BO members. That strikes me as supremely unlikely, but it's something to consider. We know that Kuroda and Rumi have a history. All that remains is to see how either reacts (or doesn't) to Wakita. Gosho has chosen to isolate him for the time being...

[Zerozaki4869]

I'm not following this line of thinking. Why would Bourbon's cover getting blown be immediately linked to Kuroda specifically?

It's not that oblique, though.
Scotch's cover was blown up---->NPA and PSB would be on the guard--->Amuro has successfully infiltrated BO and now is one of the more known faces of it.----> If such a person's cover blows up just like that , NPA won't rule out an internal leak---->Kuroda is shown to be the person whom Amuro reports about his involvement in police cases--> So NPA will start their internal investigation with Kuroda.

Yes, my point is that, based on how the scene is constructed and presented, we are meant to think that Kuroda's knowledge of Bourbon's BO message makes him RUM.

That's not how it was presented though. Kuroda called Bourbon from his phone without a voice changer to talk him about how the police case was wrapped up, which writes off the notion that Kuroda has called as Rum (Plus his old developments with the main cast). So nobody could be misled by that, if Kuroda was just shown after this whole fiasco to type a message, "Do report back on the other mission, Bourbon." then it would have been a mislead.

Misleads don't come with a prior explanation of how they aren't one.

This is a standard Gosho mislead.......

Remember the bus-jacking case from Vermouth arc.
a) Conan wanted a Lipstick.......
b) Vermouth thought what could you possibly do with it ? (To imply she is inside the bus)
c) Jodie rolls the lipstick to Conan, with an expectant look.
d) Vermouth thinks again, "Show me your magic."

[blackmoon]

well.... at least Rei's suborniate knew he was knocked out by someone when he was indeed knocked out, so Amuro who was supposed to be the top brass of the police academy in physical combat thinks it's just an "illusion" when he was actually assaulted? Either Bourbon's not really as competent as he appears to be or this entire RUM arc is misleading...

[MeiTanteixX]

It is quite strange that at this point neither Haibara or Conan consider Kuroda a viable RUM suspect, yet he's still presented as a suspect to the viewer.

Unlike Haibara, Conan doesn't view Kuroda as fully exonerated, since he was still wary about Kuroda and said that they should still be careful around him after Haibara dismissed any BO aura. Also, his reaction to his appearance during Burning tent case was further showing that he is still worried that he could be Rum, so I wouldn't call him in-universely not considered as a viable Rum suspect.

[Zerozaki4869]

Unlike Haibara, Conan doesn't view Kuroda as fully exonerated, since he was still wary about Kuroda and said that they should still be careful around him after Haibara dismissed any BO aura

Cause he looks scary and menacing, so in-universe Kuroda is just a suspicious guy and not a Rum-suspect. The Rum suspect is Rumi (the build-up happened from Rumi's neighbour's case. Such build up weren't seen with Kuroda.)

Also, his reaction to his appearance during Burning tent case was further showing that he is still worried that he could be Rum, so I wouldn't call him in-universely not considered as a viable Rum suspect.

He (Conan) was locked on-to Rumi during the whole case, he was just surprised to see Kuroda there. His parting words were, ``Did You see her eye....`` so Kuroda is now a harmless suspicious guy in-universe.......

so I wouldn't call him in-universely not considered as a viable Rum suspect.

The fact of the matter is that in Conan's mind Rumi has taken the first place and before that Kuroda had been dismissed as Rum. Conan just thinks he is a suspicious guy who is more likely to be not Rum than Rum. (Or that's how the narrative portrays him.)

Plus you should check what Conan says about Kuroda during the starting of the blog-owner murder case.....
``His actions did seem suspicious at first but it was all to capture the culprit.`` (Which shows that Conan already though Kuroda as suspicious yet harmless.)

[vaibhavgupte]

Hey I am vaibhav from india. new to this forum.
I would like to bring forward an important point related to rum.
we know gosho is heavily influenced by sherlock holmes.
we have the name of conan from its author, arthur conan doyle.
also raiha pass is from reichenbach falls.
so one can guess that second in command of enemy camp, RUM should be influenced heavily by second in command of enemy of sgerlock holmes, col. sebastian moran.
he was a military personal turned bad.
so rum could also be military or similar personnel,
like high level police , as colonel is high ranking in military.
so who does you remember now?
kuroda , yes .looks like he is rum to me.

also second point, also from gosho perspective,
if he would introduce rum , the case should be most memorable case to remember .
if we compare the introductory cases
of all 5 major rum suspects: kuroda, wakasa, kanenori
even include katsumata and iori.
the most memorable case is without a doubt
kawanakajima murder case.
plus even that case had hint of police being bad.

these two are meta hints of rum without being obvious meta hints of yaiba in kanenori and wakasa case.

plus i think the most shocking rum reveal of all rum suspects
should be kuroda as he is considered to be bourbon psb hamdler.

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

I would like to bring forward an important point related to rum.
we know gosho is heavily influenced by sherlock holmes.
we have the name of conan from its author, arthur conan doyle.
also raiha pass is from reichenbach falls.
so one can guess that second in command of enemy camp, RUM should be influenced heavily by second in command of enemy of sgerlock holmes, col. sebastian moran.
he was a military personal turned bad.
so rum could also be military or similar personnel,
like high level police , as colonel is high ranking in military.

This is a conclusion I made earlier on Rum's identity , since you mentioned the Sherlock Holmes novel . I add some details to you in No. 9 and add other conclusions No. 15, 16, 17 and 18 .

Rum is definitely Chikara Katsumata and he's the same Karasuma , reasons :
1- He appeared in the next chapter as soon as Kir announced that Rum would appear, and this is a style of Gosho to show very important characters at the beginning of the Arcs .
2- shogi player like Haneda Koji , the case of the arc of Haneda Koji death was mentioned by Haibara in the second appearance of Chikara Katsumata , with whom he sings the title of the Migin in the Shogi Game , his presence at the hotel where Haneda Koji is expected as a shogi player too, strong, much like Gosho in the outward appearance hahaha , He looks very similar also to Karasuma when he was fifty and looks like a crow too , but Goshu does not show this in all panels so not to attract the attention of fans , the panel page 10 file 899 .
3- Chikara is impatient, as Amoru hinted to conan, and this obvious on Chikara's face while he waits for the coming of Haneda Shukichi . Haneda Shukichi also told the Detective boys that the shogi world is impatient in panel 8 file 900 .
4- Itakura killer , is some one called Suma and he was a software engineer for shogi games. He said that he and Itakura were aiming to make the best shogi program to defeat the Maigens , and this may be the program that the black organization was interested in , That means a member of the organization is a shogi player and will definitely be Chikara .
5- one of both eyes is an artificial and you will notice that difference between them if you look carefully . And he appeared on key hole with different eyes also of the Folder 85 .
6- He did not has an identification card that tells us his name and age , Chikara himself said his name and this is very doubtful because his age is very very large considering that he is a Karasuma and therefore it will be confusing to fans if someone appears in his card has 140 years for example .
7- In the cover of Chapter 906 , Conan poss is very similar to the Chikara poss .
8- Whenever Chikara appears , the Akai family appears. This is evidence that there will be a Close association between Chikara and this family , Even when Chikara appeared in the file in background , the Akai family also appeared in the same file in background in file 1043 .
9- There is an important thing that most of the fans did not notice , and it is the inspector who appeared in The Magician of the Waves series files 972 973 974 , this inspector is very similar to Chikara and he will be himself and the inspector also did not show an identification card for him in his name and age just like Chikara , This is logical because , RUM had a military background , just as Sebastian Moran . Of course in this case , Tsutomu Akai family was present throughout this series ,Mary calling Akai by shuichi in front of Chikara . Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson were mentioned in this series as if Gosho hints that there is a relation to the story , Sebastian Moran was involved in the murder of Miss Stewart "Amanda Hughes in the Anime Conan" and Sebastian was also involved in the murder of the famous paper player Roland Eder "Haneda Koji in the Anime Conan" so we have :
Conan = Sherlock Holmes
Akai Shuichi = Dr. Watson
Inspector Chikara Katsumata = Sebastian Moran .
Don't forget that Moran was also a paper player "shogi player in Anime Conan" and made a lot of money , his partner in the game is Roland Eder , but Roland revealed the truth of Sebastian that he cheats in the game to earn money , Roland threatened to reveal his truth , but Moran targeted him with a bullet that made him dead . The bullet is very similar to the drug of the silver bullet through which Katsumuta killed Koji .
10- The image of Yumi that fell from Haneda's pocket is most likely taken by Chikara, which means that Yumi, perhaps at time of the confrontation, will be in danger as it is the first case in which Chikara appeared and in that case Yumi kidnapping occurred , perhaps this is a hint from Goshu .
11- Agasa cheats in his puzzle at the beginning of Arc Rum. This was a hint from Goshu that he was going to trick us this time , chikara resembles the fourth paper dish completely devoid of skull shape but the cup on it contains vinegar inside , so Chikara in front of us in the Arc not doing any suspicious behavior Unlike the other three suspects .
12- Hotel where Haneda Kohji died is called juke so there is also a second trick or cheat in the arc , Haneda Koji's real message , and Goshu hinted that the name of the hotel on the cup that fell on the mirror, which led to the mirror broken down compeletely not because of a specific person . so Haneda Koji had not any relation with the mirror message .
13- The real Haneda Koji message , which Haneda himself did , was holding the shogi piece loved by Kohji but on the side of "uma" in his palm , not the side of brompted bishop . and the piece was hidden by holding scissors tightly in a devensive grip so the scissors look like cutters in this way , palm of Kohji was opened after his death by the Killer (Rum) and take the shogi piece but Wakasa fought with him and took piece that Rum intended to get rid of . Wakasa took that piece from him as she did with Bourbon in the file 1054 farm , so this was a hint from Gosho . Wakasa also made the hand mirror clue (Karasuma) , She seems to know him well because she talk about him and his traits in file 1051 , and this increases the possibility that she is Asaka a former BO agent . but the dying message of Kohji was only holding scissors tightly in a devensive grip and shogi piece on the "uma" side :
tightly = power which is mean "chikara" .
scissors in a devensive grip look like cutters which means "katta" + "uma" side of the shogi piece . So we have "Chikara" + "katta" + "uma" .
collect all of those terms in Japanese you will get ( Chikara Katsumata ).
14- Wakasa took that piece from Rum as it is belong to the real dying message and it's also favourite piece to Kohji so that the BO could not destroy the real dying message , but she left an important guide/clue/evidence for smart investigators instead of the uma piece which she took with her , If we look at the hand mirror that left next to Haneda's corpse , Wakasa had scratched (u) letter of the word (put) on the shape of shogi piece , so that investigators conclude that the missing shogi piece that missed from Haneda's palm is started with (u) .
15- We have two characters who express two other characters completely , the first is Haneda Shukichi , represents Haneda Koji , as both are not strong and do not know about the Black organization , but they are very smart and also shogi players , Haneda Shukichi loves Yumi while Haneda Koji loves Rumi . Another character , Curacao, who appeared in movie 20 , represents Wakasa Rumi , both are strong , have a prothetic one eye and have a fight with members of the NPA .
16- Kuroda is still trying to solve Kohji's case , I totally exclude him from being Rum or even a member of the organization , Kuroda is not an investigator but he is trying to solve the Haneda Koji case and it may be because he is a member of the Haneda Koji family , perhaps as Kuroda is his father or brother , all that is Kuroda conclude that the message of mirror refers to "Wakasa Rumi" and not Karasuma , I think that Kuroda's interest in Conan is just a disguise or a deception from Goshu , as Kuroda is often interested in Yusaku Kudo in order to solve the mystery of this case , I came to that thinking when I saw Kuroda reads the "Kudo" part in chapter 1005 panel 16 .
17- Kuroda will not ask to solve that mystery of case from Conan because he is a small child , Kuroda will not ask that from Mori Kogoro because he knows that Conan is the secret behind his fame and also won't ask that from Bourbon because he is a spy in the organization and this will be dangerous for him .
18- In files 906 907 908 , the three descriptions of Rum were mentioned by Haibara , and there were three men with these descriptions , who was the murderer among them in that case ?? None of them is the murderer , the victim committed suicide, so I think this is a hint that Rum will not be one of the three .

[Zerozaki4869]

Well Mohamed, I would rather posit a scenario infront of you.

Let's have a thought experiment,

Let's say the person who attacked and assaulted Kohji might not be the one who fed him APTX to ensure his death........

[Mohamed Ebrahem]

Well Mohamed, I would rather posit a scenario infront of you.
Let's have a thought experiment,
Let's say the person who attacked and assaulted Kohji might not be the one who fed him APTX to ensure his death........

good point as usual from you ZeroZaki .
It is better when you do a mission , such as assassinate one person , for example , that you have one partner to help you in this task , and no more than that , especially since they were in a hotel, which means that it is difficult for them to escape or to clear themselves if you are more than two people .
We saw in the Mystery Train series Vermouth and Bourbon existed to kill Sherry . At episode 1 , Gin and Vodka in order to do a certain deal
, so I think the two people who belong to the organization at that time were Rum and Asaka in order to assassinate Amanda if they intended it from the beginning or an emergency order happened that forced them to kill her , but Rum for some reason had killed Kohji , which is Unexpected behavior for Asaka because Koji is her lover , so she turned against them just as Haibara turned against the organization when they killed her sister .
But I want to tell you something , for us as fans, I think we should concern towards answering these questions: Who is Rum? who is Asaka? and what is the real dying message of Haneda Kohji , but as for us to think about what happened in details at this case will be difficult for us and full of contradictions as you know , Goshu always surprises us .
I am sure that if I told you that Vermouth was the one who poisoned Mary by kissing and Mary jumped to the sea and returned to the hotel before this actually happened in the manga , you wouldn't believe me and creates many contradictions that anyone of fans will ask , but this is what actually happened and you have to accept it .
In your opinion , who is the most person is suitable to be Rum ?

[vaibhavgupte]

mohamed. very good points.
the inspector from ripples looks similar to chikara but their
eyelids are different. gosho draws eyelids first so why they are different .
in fact if you look eyelids and slanting eyebrows both
looks like hyoue kuroda.
and guess what that ripples case is 10 years ago.
same time as hyoue kuroda accident.
and hishair were black before accident
something looks fishy.
only unexplucable thing looks height difference.
between two

[Zerozaki4869]

No, Mohamed, I might not have worded it correctly,

What if we have X( a non BO actor) and Y( a BO agent) both having a motive to kill Kohji. X beats Y in the game but leaves the room in an utter mess, when Y comes in Y feeds the APTX to Kohji to ensure that Kohji dies.

Given the lack of blood in Kuroda's kohji case recollections, I do find it highly likely that Kuroda has seen the corpse before Rumi had seen it. So Kuroda could be at the very best someone who APTXed Kohji to ensure his death, at the very least some 3rd party who came to Kohji's room before Rumi discovered the corpse. Now the second looks a bit stretched, cause of the lack of blood.

So Kuroda could be Rum, but there is a chance that someone else did in Kohji first and then Kuroda fed him APTX to finish him off, that's my current stance.

you wouldn't believe me

Would have believed you. I was already sitting on the conclusions that somebody impersonated Tsutomu, even impersonated his voice. But was too shaky to choose the obvious suspect cause I thought that she must have known the true effect of APTX even before meeting Sherry.