Discussion thread: Detective Conan 987-989

[Tantei San]

I agree with you on why she didn't notice Ayumi immediately. She was simply in deep thought and didn't know who was calling her.
My point was that if Vermouth was keeping a Shogi tile in her pocket, then maybe it's a memento of Kohji and she was actually his wife 17 years ago(in case you forgot, Sharon is Vermouth).
I'm merely stating some possible ideas, and I'm not really fully convinced that it's a Shogi tile either.

You have your own theory and by no means I disrespect it, but I don't think Vermouth=Rumi in any case.
P.S. If I am wrong later, please don't laugh at me.
And I stated

Sharon(Vermouth) was Kohji's wife etc.

earlier, So I know.

This is important for glass eyes and other eye replacements[/b] that have to be kept lubricated or they would chafe the tissue of the socket.

If that eye needs to be lubricated, it is possible that what she had were some sort of eye-drops, since they are also quite small about a inch or two and are sort of triangular at the top like a shogi tile.

[saorin]

I'm pretty much convinced by now that Rumi is the Bodyguard.
Maybe she got kinda ruthless in her methods to achieve her goals after the Kohji incident but is not really a bad person deep down...or something?

But then the connection she shares with Kuroda needs explaining. Hmm. So maybe Kuroda was assigned that case after All? And therefore recognises Rumi from back then? He would have met her during the investigations then.

[Nemomon]

She did do something about it though. She took Conan to witness the crime scene, waiting for it to happen. It's possible she wants to see if Conan can prevent the crimes while knowing nothing beforehand to make herself feel good about Amanda's or Kohji's death. Maybe she wants to keep playing these scenarios over and over again to make a point out of it to herself.

I kinda doubt that. Conan is a smart kid, but just kid. Therefore she shouldn't expect him to be as good as an abult detective. Unless she knows who he really is, then she already should be aware that he can help her solving that particular case, and even if not, he surely will be able to deduce something what the police didn't yet. Plus, that case was from 17 years ago, so many traces are already lost, thereofre it is best to assume that she wants someone just to help her solving that case, not to solve it because at this point it might be unsolvable.

Also, not related to You, but I doubt that Rumi is Asaka or any other bodyguard. The case was 17 years ago, so back then she was 20. Do You think that anybody could hire so young person as a bodyguard? Let alone a bodyguard of a rich person with connections to FBI, CIA and the Organization? I doubt. I think Rumi is Kouji's relative like an unknown sister or something of that sort.

Though, You also have to look for the fact that not only did she anticipated that she need to bring Conan to her home for her work any way possible but also the fact that the whole 'Detective Boys' could get along with him and that if she needs his help she needs to serve them as well, to the point she brought extra cups and plates with her. Also, Did anyone stress the fact that as to why did she needed to bring extra cups and plates, I mean, If she was living in her house for sometime, she should know people can/would come to meet her, and that she needs to have extra utensils in her home. The fact she didn't,makes me think that she is using that house temporarily.

Well.. she's their teacher for some time, and she knows that the DB do not let Conan be alone, and go whenever he goes. Therefore it was natural to assume that they also won't let Conan going alone to her even if Conan would beg them to allow him.

But she took him to her houese for various reasons. One of them might be to check how he will react if the murder attempt will really happen (there still were chances that it won't), but the other was the receipt he found. Rumi intentionally left it in a place where Conan could find it, so maybe her sole reason to bring him home was to let him know that something is going on with her. The murder was just an extra unplanned attraction.

Whether or not she is evil or really a teacher we will know later on. Though, yes, from the looks of it, she sure is trained in some sort of combat arts, etc. But what if she was like Ran. that she also, learnt judo,karate,tae-kwon-do in her school or did continue to a certain level.

I doubt so, because Rumi appears to be super pro at fighting. Ran no matter how good she could be at fighting, she would be unable to mask her fighting skills with clumsiness. Rumi can do that which means she underwent some special training.

But Rumi was willing to let Ayumi die. So... she cant be a bad person, since we all would allow it too, right?

Well I would and I'm not a bad person.

Your avatar says otherwise

[MeiTanteixX]

I think I've found out what Rumi is carrying in her pocket.
It's the "U" shard from the dying message.

[Kor]

I think I've found out what Rumi is carrying in her pocket.
It's the "U" shard from the dying message.

If she carries a piece of broken glass in her pocket, we might as well brand Rumi as a moron.

[MeiTanteixX]

I think I've found out what Rumi is carrying in her pocket.
It's the "U" shard from the dying message.

If she carries a piece of broken glass in her pocket, we might as well brand Rumi as a moron.

Can't deny how silly that would be, just like how similar the shape looks.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

I think I've found out what Rumi is carrying in her pocket.
It's the "U" shard from the dying message.

If she carries a piece of broken glass in her pocket, we might as well brand Rumi as a moron.

Can't deny how silly that would be, just like how similar the shape looks.

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

[MeiTanteixX]

I think I've found out what Rumi is carrying in her pocket.
It's the "U" shard from the dying message.

If she carries a piece of broken glass in her pocket, we might as well brand Rumi as a moron.

Can't deny how silly that would be, just like how similar the shape looks.

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

That's how strong her grudge was.... I guess
Maybe the "itching butt" joke had an underlying meaning after all x)

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

That's how strong her grudge was.... I guess
Maybe the "itching butt" joke had an underlying meaning after all x)

I think I'd prefer if it were the Hisha :

[MeiTanteixX]

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

That's how strong her grudge was.... I guess
Maybe the "itching butt" joke had an underlying meaning after all x)

I think I'd prefer if it were the Hisha :

I still think the slight curvature and overall slimness makes it less likely to be a shogi tile.
Either way, the point that she's connected to Kohji gets across.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

That's how strong her grudge was.... I guess
Maybe the "itching butt" joke had an underlying meaning after all x)

I think I'd prefer if it were the Hisha
I still think the slight curvature and overall slimness makes it less likely to be a shogi tile.
Either way, the point that she's connected to Kohji gets across.

I agree with you on the shape, I just hope she never has to sit down.

[Wachi]

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

That's how strong her grudge was.... I guess
Maybe the "itching butt" joke had an underlying meaning after all x)

I think I'd prefer if it were the Hisha
I still think the slight curvature and overall slimness makes it less likely to be a shogi tile.
Either way, the point that she's connected to Kohji gets across.

I agree with you on the shape, I just hope she never has to sit down.

Actually this would explain why she was in pain when she fell after Kuroda seized the criminal

[MoonRaven]

Didn't she...... tightly grip her pocket earlier in this case though... ?

That's how strong her grudge was.... I guess
Maybe the "itching butt" joke had an underlying meaning after all x)

I think I'd prefer if it were the Hisha
I still think the slight curvature and overall slimness makes it less likely to be a shogi tile.
Either way, the point that she's connected to Kohji gets across.

I agree with you on the shape, I just hope she never has to sit down.

Actually this would explain why she was in pain when she fell after Kuroda seized the criminal

And it depends on the stretch and thickness of the jeans how much the tile would bulge out.

[dccd]

Dunno about you, but do you see the little "piece" at the bottom right?
No idea what that is.

First I was sure about the Shogi-tile , first association too, but now...

[k11chi]

Looks more like a puzzle tile now.