Spoiler:
dumytru
Hey! dumy here
Cinna Cake
Sorry, I was at work, but im on a break now!
I sent my actions
dumytru
So this happened.
Did he send you something like this?
Cinna Cake
I just finished work.
I checked and SA says he thinks I'm BO :v
Because I haven't shared any abilities with him >_>
I'll tell him I can investigate.
I'm not home yet. I'll come back when I get there.
Cinna Cake
I'm trying to take suspicions away from me, but I don't know if that'll work.
Cinna Cake
I haven't chosen my kill target for tonight,
I think I calmed SA's suspicions for now.
Cinna Cake
I'm off to bed.
Randomness tells me to kill Moon.
Any objections?
Aside from that, can you think of anything useful to SI?
You can frame someone, slander yourself and a townie I guess? Anything else besides frame we can do with the suitcase? I remember bribe, but you have the suitcase and I'm the killer, so I don't think we can use that.
Ok, I need my sleep. I'll check back in the morning and before phase change I'll be around.
dumytru
Our timezones don't really match...
SA asked me to SI darkest absol for killing KL. Is it to riski to frame DA and say that SI came true?
risky*
No objections about the kill.
SA wants me to SI because I told him I have an info-gathering ability. (he also said that if my ability is observe, then I shouldn't use it on the suspects)
I should be around today all day. Hopefully Handouts will send a notification when I receive a message.
Hmm, but then if be stalkes me out, he'll know i haven't SId DA.
Cinna Cake
Ok, so SA told me DA is his suspect for N1 kill. Since so many people claim not sending actions. Him, DA and me are the only ones left alive that surely sent actions n1
I told him I can investigate.
I'll copy a piece of his pm:
(Talking about DA the first part)
She is the only suspect left on Satou's death (if people actually forgot about N1). I know I did not kill her and you claim to have not done it too :v If we actually proceed with secret lynching, we might be able to catch the other BOs' way of voting. I'll go with publicly announcing her lynch only if we have definitive proof. So! The following are my suggestions for the night:
- If by any chance you are also able to Special Investigate, I'm begging you to check darkest absol killing Kaito Lady on Night 1!
- If you can investigate more than one, check on any player that is not darkest absol killing me(?)
- I'll check on any player that is not darkest absol killing you(?)
dumytru
I see
We should somehow make SA think you're not BO, because once DA dies, he will think that.
If i were him, I'd investigate you SI darkest.
Cinna
Or... We kill him now :x I feel bad about it :x
dumytru
well, he's the most active player
Cinna
I know, that's why i rather have him alive. It makes stuff interesting
dumytru
also, if we kill moon, I'd be the only one left in the first half of the list
yep, he does
and he probably wrote everything in his will
If you SI darkest, and tell SA he didn't do it, he might consider one of the people who lied about not sending actions did it.
she*
Cinna
He also said this:
I am going to tell you this. If I die tonight and get erased, proceed to lynch darkest absol on the next day. I still can't decide if this should be announced publicly or just be shared on a small number of trusted allies.
So, maybe frame someone else?
And, what was that about the top half of the list?
then if DA will die, it would look like we were avoided. Obviously I don't think people would even think about it. I just thought I'd mention it. ☺
Can I frame somebody killing you?
Cinna Cake
And we don't kill tonight?
dumytru
"How does Frame works?" <- I send this before, but it didn't get sent
Why not?
Cinna Cake
No, i think it could be a good idea
If we frame someone, they might get caught. But then how do we explain me not being dead?
dumytru
Protect-- I guess not.
How about this: you SI darkest, then tell SA she didn't do it, and I frame DA for killing Moon tonight.
this is from a conversation with SA: " Lastly, thank you for reminding me that other BO might be able to send actions for another BO if they give consent to the other being able to do so... It makes people who know ahead of time that they'll be busy, to leave their actions on their teammate while they feign inactivity"
Cinna Cake
That sounds like it could work
Ok, i like thiss plan
If I say I investigated DA killing Moon, it would be too fishy?
Cinna Cake
Maybe DA gets lynched day 2
dumytru
hmm. I could pose as Akai, who has 3 investigates.
Cinna Cake
Yeah, you'd have to be someone with more than one investigate
If not, it's way too suspicious
dumytru
I could tell SA now that I'll investigate DA tonight killing more players
the reasoning would be that if she didn't kill N1, but he's BO, she would kill tonight
Cinna Cake
Yes, this could be good
dumytru
I'll just check what roles have multiple investigations
SA said he can investigate, and since it's unlikely he's cop (?), he must be FBI with no SI
Ah, he could be civilian.
It should be fine then.
Cinna Cake
Ok, so I'm going to send my kill. Hopefully we get her.
Or a civilian
Ok, I'm happy with our plan
dumytru
yep. sending actions now
Cinna Cake
\o/
Don't forget to slander yourself, just in case. And maybe another townie?
dumytru
ok
Think I should observe SA?
we know he has investigate and age would help.
I'm only worried he might suspect one of us.
especially you since you know he has investigate
Cinna Cake
Yes. You think he'll have someone or himself SO him?
Hmm. I don't know.
Cinna Cake
Idk... Could be good to narrow him down a bit.
Should we take the risk?
dumytru
What can he know? At most the somebody observed him, right?
Cinna Cake
Do whatever you feel.
I think we'll be ok
dumytru
Ok. I will do it. It's probably worth the risk.
my actions:
Frame darkest absol for killing Moonraven tonight.
Slander myself and Yuri.
Gender-observe shinichi'sapprentice.
(sending them just in case I missed something)
Cinna Cake
Ok!
Mine:
Kill Moonraven.
And should I actually do the investigate ad SI I say? Or just use them on the people I claim, but check for other stuff?
dumytru
I think it's safe to do it. If he has multiple investigations, he might check you.
Cinna Cake
Ok
dumytru
"Ok, I pretty much decided what I'm going to do tonight.
I've created a suspect list from the information I have (statistically, anyways).
I'll take the people from that list and investigate them killing people that aren't on the list."
does this sounds okay?
(he asked me if decided on what do do)
Cinna Cake
Yep, sounds good
dumytru
my actions failed
Cinna Cake
D:
At least you weren't the killer
dumytru
yeah
We can't blame DA now
hopefully SA moves the lynch
with the lynch*
Cinna Cake
I really hope he tells people to vote da
dumytru
I should say in the thread that I got discombobulated, right?
Cinna Cake
Yeah
At least we have a lead for aptx
dumytru
yep
dumytru
you there?
Cinna Cake
Yes
I want to pretend I was ally with Moon, so I can justify my investigates and suspect list.
I just wanted to double check if there could be a risk.
He can't find out by any means, right?
I mean, talking to Moon in private isn't allowed, no?
Cinna Cake
He's not allowed
Dead people are not supposed to talk
dumytru
ok, I'm writing the message now and I'll send it to you before sending it to SA to double check. Is that alright?
Cinna Cake
Ok
before reading: this is NOT final. currently I'm trying to put the blame on DA, but I can't without putting you on the suspect list
basically I need a way of getting you out of there. Maybe we can say we're allied as well?
Cinna Cake
I'm gonna copy/paste what sa pmd me
dumytru
Is it bad?
Cinna Cake
Any helpful info you got last night? I still want to go on with lynching darkest absol despite of lack of definitive proof. And I can't very well announce that yet in the thread because the BO will just follow the votes...
dumytru
oh, then after my PM he'll definitely go with DA
Cinna Cake
I'm planing to tell sa i'll contact you since you were discombobheggshd and someone got killed
dumytru
problem is once she's dead, how we avoid him suspecting you.
hmm, that's good
what do you think about my PM?
Cinna Cake
Yeah, idk. Once DA's dead we have how many townies? 3?
Can we bribe kill the next time?
dumytru
ah. right.
hmm, I don't know
Cinna Cake
GMs said nothing about bribe
I wonder if we have the right to use it, then the game would be over?
Would be a very short game
dumytru
Let's ask the GMs then
Cinna Cake
Yeah
dumytru
I sent the PM to SA. When will you be contacting me? (so I won't mess up in future PMS)
and yeah short game indeed
Cinna Cake
It's 4pm here. What time over there?
dumytru
10 PM
Cinna Cake
I'll ask the GMs and see if they answer us soon
dumytru
ok. I'll go to sleep since I have an exam on Monday.
I think I'll be around for half an hour...
Cinna Cake
Ok
I'll pm you right bow to ally
dumytru
(if you think it's weird that I sleep instead of studying, it's because I know most of the stuff, but it's that kind of exam where small mistakes mess up everything, and I have to be fresh)
Cinna Cake
^^' it's ok. Sometimes it's better to get rest than to be too tired to get answers right
I pmd you and gm
Are you sleeping already?
I'm thinking about not telling SA about the SI. He might end up wanting to lynch me if I said DA didn't kill N1 :x
dumytru
well, I told him I think he didn't kill N1 and he did kill N2
she
I don't know. Telling him might make him trust you.
..might..
Cinna Cake
Oh, ok, so you think it's fine to tell him DA killing KL came back false?
I guess it could be fine. Then, if he contacts the cop, they might try an arrest for me killing kl, and that would fail!
I'm gonna tell him.
dumytru
Yep.
Sounds fine.
Cinna Cake
Ok, go to sleep if you have to, i think I'll pm you checking if you have info.
dumytru
okay
Cinna Cake
We can bribe kill
dumytru
Amazing
Cinna Cake
So, that means you should keep the suitcase i think. Rules say the one holding the suitcase has to be the one killing (if i didn't misread)
dumytru
Ok, so then I have to send the BS to me? (or just now say anything at all?)
anyways, I'm going to sleep. It's been an hours since I said I will and I'm still here.
Later o/
Cinna Cake
I'll ask.
Good night! o/
dumytru
From SA:""
"I apologize for the late response! I keep getting distracted and the lack of food and sleep were affecting everything ;v
I read all your messages but just didn't have the time to reply until now.
This day phase, I think we should take the risk of secretly lynching darkest absol. I have only told you this and one other person so if there are more than three people voting her today, I would consider you or that other person a traitor by concluding that one of you guys have told another person about this lynch. With only six players left, we need to catch at least one BO or the game might already be over before we know it.
Do you find anybody else suspicious aside from the two you mentioned from your earlier messages?"
Told him I'd vote darkest absol, obviously.
Cinna Cake
I'm the other person voting with him ^^'
dumytru
yep, I figured
Cinna Cake
This is good
I told him i'd vote with him too
I asked kain about the suitcase, i'm waiting for a reply.
I think we just tell them you'll keep the suitcase.
dumytru
Ah, I ended up asking when I sent my actions.
I'll just give it to myself.
Cinna Cake
Yeah
I'll send my vote
dumytru
How much time left do we have until the phase change?
I still haven't figured out when it is.
Cinna Cake
An hour and 15 minutes
dumytru
i see. hanks
thanks
dumytru
\o/
Cinna Cake
Yay!!! \o/
dumytru
I wonder if SA will realize we are BO o.O
Cinna Cake
I'm afraid he'll be suspicious of at least one of us
Yuri and kleene haven't been very active >_>
dumytru
well, it doesn't really matter
Cinna Cake
Who do you think it's the cop?
dumytru
might be SA
Cinna Cake
I wonder if it's SA
Yeah
I'll pm him later.
Who do you think we should kill?
After our kill, it'll be 2 vs 2
What if there's a cop between those 2?
The game keeps going?
dumytru
I'm not sure.
Also, can bribe kill be discombobulated?
Cinna Cake
Nope, nothing stops bribe kill
dumytru
the game might go on, we should ask the GMs
Cinna Cake
I reread bribe rules just in case. Nothing stops the bribe kill
dumytru (right after the phase change)
Also, I think I'll send the kill now. I have that exam tomorrow and it's going to take a while.
Cinna Cake
Would you like it to keep going? Or should we kill SA?
If we need a cop for the game to keep going, then we can kill kleene or yuri i think
dumytru
Killing SA might end up boring.
Cinna Cake
That's what i think, if he's the cop, it could make the game last another phase
I'll ask, but I think if it's 2 vs 2 with a cop for town, the game could keep going
dumytru
Okay. I'll send the kill for Kleene
also will try to observe SA egain
again
Maybe I should slender us?
Cinna Cake
Ok. Also, can we use the suitcase to slander?
I already interrogate town, because i'm disguised as james
Slander yuri maybe
dumytru
ok.
Cinna Cake
And you
dumytru
that's right
Cinna Cake
And maybe leave a note just in ase something comes up, so O could change your actions (i'll only do it if completely necessary)
*case
dumytru
ok
Cinna Cake
That way we're safe even if you're not around
I'm sure I'll be around, i'm off tomorrow
dumytru
ok, done
Cinna Cake
I hope your exam goes well!!! \o/
Thanks!
\o/
Cinna Cake
dumytru
I should be aroung from now on.
I passed the exam, so I'm super-happy.
The teacher had two optiosn for us: 10 simple problems (from which we had to solve 5 out of 10 to pass) and 6 harder problems.
He said that if we wrote ANYTHING AT ALL on those 6 problems, he wouldn't even look at the 10 simple problems. I solved more than 5 out of 10 problems, then I started working on those 6 (which required that I knew some theory I only had a vague idea of).
Obvously I just canceled anything I did on the 10 problems, and based only on the 6 problems.
I was the only one who (tried to solve) solved those 6 problems, so that's why I'm happy.
Sorry if I may not make any sense (or my grammar is bad), I just wrote this fast so.
That was pretty offtopic. Related to Mafia: SA asked me if I can arrest (I told him I can't) and he still trust me (apparently).
Cinna Cake
\o/ I'm very happy for you!!!
\o\ \o/ /o/
Cinna Cake
SA pmd me:
Before I start again on what possible actions we should send tonight, I'd like to hear if you have any suggestions first.
I'll probably end up investigating people killing you tonight.
If you are Rena, please spill out every last Betrayal results you've got so we can have a list of other crimes that our cop can arrest from aside from the outrageous Night 1 kill. It'll also greatly help to know how many exactly are the BO we are fighting.
If you are James, please let me know if you believe something is strange with your subordinate/s...
FBI Leader wrote:
- If Vermouth or Kid has a disguise of an FBI subordinate, regardless of if they use the disguise during the game, it will be counted in the subordinate list and James will receive a small hint akin to, "You believe something is strange with your subordinate(s)..."
I may also have a way to protect our cop but it will depend on circumstances...
SA could be akai, maybe?
I'm afraid to claim james, but i could just say I'm him, and no such message came up, because I'm Vermy and kid's dead
Cinna Cake
I'm about to send my reply to SA.
Here's what I wrote:
Do you think I SI KL's kill again? Or I try Moon, with yuri, dumy or kleene as the killer?
I can investigate someone killing you.
So, I'm not Rena....
(I feel like being Rena would've been more useful >_>)
I'm James (I always feel naked when I tell someone my role
).
I guess Vermy's not in the game, I didn't get that message about a subordinate.
Would the game be over already if there was 3 BO? Or would it keep going because there's a cop?
If there is three, the game could be over tonight ;_; (why didn't we get more players?!!! D: I'm glad we're having a game, but so little amount of players )
If there's 2 BO (this is what I hope for), and their kill somehow fails, then we could maybe finally lynch one tomorrow.
((I'll probably send in actions now, I have to go out and don't know what time I'll unbusy myself. But I'll try to check back before phase change from y phone, in case you have something specific you want me to SI or investigate))
dumytru
You convinced me
Cinna Cake
^^'
That last part about going out, it's not true. I just don't want him asking questions about the info james got.
I'll be around
I have to go out, but just for a bit
dumytru
I should be around too.
Cinna Cake
\o/
Ok, I'll send the pm
Cinna Cake
Dumy!!!!!
Since you've told me so much, I guess I'll tell ya what I think...
I see we have the same things in mind!
Of the three remaining people who claims to have missed Night 1, I've decided to arrest dumytru tonight for killing Kaito Lady on Night 1. He publicly claimed to have been tricked on Night 2 despite someone still dying which means someone else has committed the act. He also has stopped replying after a barrage of messages from me xD
If this arrest fails, the game is over however many BOs we have. ;__;
If this arrest is successful however, we can prevent a death tonight if the BO decides to have dumytru take tonight's kill.
As I've said on my last message, I think I'll stick with investigating people killing you.
Investigate Kleene killing me tonight!
I also agree with Special Investigating Kleene in particular for killing MoonRaven on Night 2!
After so much deliberation, I think 2 town vs 3 BO will still be possible as long as the cop continues on magically arresting the correct culprits xD But I'm still hoping for 3 town vs 2 BO ;__;
If tonight's arrest is successful and I die and the game is still going AND one of your investigations come back as true, LYNCH KLEENE NEXT DAY PHASE!
I'm sending actions after this.
Your kill will still go through if you get arrested, but :O
I'm probably going to tell him a fake result afterwards
dumytru
I simply stoped responding because of my exam
and then I just slept
Cinna Cake
Awww
dumytru
and then I was late for the train, and actually ended up missing it (by 3 minutes)_
now I'm waiting for the next one (they let me change tickets for about 1$, so that's that)
Cinna Cake
Well, I rather have you arrested than dead though.
The bribe kill will go through even if you get arrested.
dumytru
I'm going to send a PM to SA saying I was busy all day
do you think I could make it obvious that I found out he suspects me?
Cinna Cake
Yeah, might make him change his mind!
And we still have a bit of time before phase change
dumytru
I'll just say "Sorry I haven't replied, I was busy all day (long exam and work, idk)
Cinna Cake
Be careful, he really trust me now.
yes
But I wonder.... he suspects kleene....
Should we exchange the kill? Or is it too late? :x
dumytru
hmm, might be too late.
And I'm sure Kain already made the story.
Cinna Cake
Do you want me to ask in my pm?
I'm about to send my investigates
If it's possible, if not, then go ahead and leave it as it is
dumytru
sure. you can also change my actions, so you may ask for change if possible
if you want to
Cinna Cake
Ok, I'll just ask kain if it's not too much trouble. If it is, she can go ahead and leave it be.
we kill yuri?
if we can of course
dumytru
sure
Cinna Cake
ok
dumytru
also, we can try to APTX SA, right?
I just looked and there are 5 roles with investigate and arrest
statistically it's a good shot
Cinna Cake
Yeah! We try aptx! \o/
if my gender-observe would go through it would have been better, but he's arresting me....
Cinna Cake
yeah
he could get discombodjkshkdjsted
there's a slight chance
dumytru
ah. right.
Cinna Cake
That would be awesome
dumytru
yep
Phase change is in 30 minutes, right?
Cinna Cake
I think so, but I'm sort of confused ^^'
dumytru
I've been pretty confused about the phase change
this round, I mean
Cinna Cake
yeah, first it was one time, then half an hour later, then another phase change was half an hour after that, because of the story, but I have no idea if that was a permanent thing, and now they moved it 1,5 hours
o_o
kain said we can change it, so we bribe kill yuri, and then might be able to lynch kleene with SA
dumytru
\o/
Cinna Cake
Ok, I'm hungry, I'll have lunch while I wait for ohase change :3
dumytru
Enjoy your meal
SA read my message. No reply yet though.
Cinna Cake
thanks ^^
dumytru
"dumytru gets arrested"
yey
this means SA pretty much knows I'm BO, right?
Cinna Cake
I think?
I will feed a fake result to SA. He asked me to SI kleene killing Moon
dumytru
yep
Cinna Cake
Then, we lynch kleene and I try to aptx SA
dumytru
I suppose it all comes down to who SA trusts more (you or Kleene)
and whether we can APTX SA
Cinna Cake
Yeah, he seems to trust me, I have no idea if he's been speaking to kleene
If it's just me sending the aptx... can I send 3? Or just one? I'm guessing 1, but idk
dumytru
oh. I thought we can send all 3
also, SA can arrest this phase, right?
if he arrests you for killing N2 and lynches Kleene
then town may just win :\
Cinna Cake
Mmmm.... Hey, we decided to let SA live because we wanted to have fun. We could've killed him tonight, so I consider it ok to lose ^^'
dumytru
yeah, I know. I'm fine with losing. It was a fun ride.
Cinna Cake
Yeah ^^
dumytru
even though there weren't many players
Cinna Cake
SA makes the game a bit more active
dumytru
indeed
Cinna Cake
Let's see how much he trusts me
dumytru
I'll be away for a while now.
Cinna Cake
ok
We'll talk later about the aptx.
dumytru
ok, I'm here.
should be around for the next 5 hours
Cinna Cake
ok, I Pmd SA:
\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Yay!!! One down!
I got my results, but I don't get it?
Says kleene did kill Moon N2. How is that possible? Dumy kills KL N1 (because the arrest went through), kleene kills Moon N2 (because the SI result says so), but tonight... if it was dumy's turn to kill (I'm guessing we only have 2 BO, if not game over, right?)... how come the kill happened? Kills don't happen if people get arrested, right? o_O
I mean, it's good news. We know kleene's the other BO and we're 2 to 1 in the lynch vote. It's just that I don't get it
I wanna seem innocent... I hope it's working ^^'
I'll let you know when he replies
dumytru
yeah
one down
it makes sense. hopefully he'll think about bribe
he send me a PM asking why I'm in jail
Cinna Cake
I think he will
dumytru
I was kinda half-joking "Maybe for a crime I commited...?" and then i said "I was probably framed, but whatever; I won't be out to see the game end"
at the very least, he'll consider frame a posibility
sent*
Cinna Cake
^^'
Yeah, it doesn't change anything
yeah
I almost said "because you arrested me", and then I realized I could've known that only if you told me
Cinna Cake
Yeah, but if he thinks you're innocent, he might arrest me ^^'
I don't mind ending the game in jail with my partner in crime though
dumytru
nah. APTX SA and lynch Kleene is the way
Cinna Cake
:3
dumytru
We lost the BS, right? because I'm in jail.
Cinna Cake
Idk?
But if the game ends. We don't need it anymore. I'm thinking it'll be game over tomorrow
dumytru
*sunglasses emoticon* (the forums can't use those characters)
Cinna Cake
Anyway, it was just my own theory that dumytru might take the kill tonight. If he did, but the arrest was successful, then the kill shouldn't have went through unless BRIBE was used.
If there are only two BOs, then Kleene can commit a back-to-back kill (N2 and N3) since the first BO killing-cycle, everybody having their turn to kill, already went around.
If there were three BOs, then that will be totally senseless since that would mean you're a BO! xD
Go ahead and send your LYNCH VOTE for Kleene today! If only Yuri did what I asked her to last night, it would have probably prevented her death.
SA replied
And I gotta go now. I'll be back later, but you'll probably be asleep.
So I think we'll talk more tomorrow before phase change
dumytru
okay
I really wonder if SA will try to arrest you. It would be pretty smart of him to do that.
Good night!
Cinna Cake
Yeah, he might. We'll find out tomorrow.
Good night! o/
\o
Cinna Cake
If you're around, I'm just going to pop out ideas to aptx.
even if you're not here, it'll help me decide which aptx to send in.
So SA is a cop that can investigate.
Cops that have investigate:
Megure
Shiratori
Satou
Nakamori
Yumi
Yamato
Satou's dead.
I think if he was Nakamori maybe he would've pinched me by now?
Pinching doesn't cause suspension if it fails according to what I read.
But it does leave a notice... so he could hesitate to use it because it would reveal that nakamori's in.
Yumi, i'm guessing she's not in?
Because that would only leave you and kleene as lovers.
I'm leaning towards Megure or Shiratori. Maybe SA housesearched someone, and that's how he got suspended?
I think I'll send those two, and then........
Nakamori or Yamato?
Cinna Cake
I choose nakamori, just because was in the game :V (I have no idea who to choose)
*kid was in the game
Ok. I'm sending it, but I don't know if I can actually use the three aptx by myself on one phase.
I told Kain that my first choice was Megure in case we just get 1. I don't really know.
Ok, sorry for writing so much... I needed to put my ideas out there ^^'
dumytru
no problem
sorry I wasn't here
Question: think we should make our conversation public on the forums?
I'm pretty sure SA would enjoy reading it.
Cinna Cake
Sorry, i just got to work, after 4 i won't be available. Is phase change up already?
But yeah, we can go public
dumytru
Should be soon
...not sure what you mean by 4
Cinna Cake
Sorry ^^'
In 20 minutes
dumytru
i see
Cinna Cake
Ok, he knows I'm evil now, and he's suspended
We can win?
dumytru
I don't see why not. He can't prevent his death
Hey! dumy here
Cinna Cake
Sorry, I was at work, but im on a break now!
I sent my actions
dumytru
So this happened.
Did he send you something like this?
Cinna Cake
I just finished work.
I checked and SA says he thinks I'm BO :v
Because I haven't shared any abilities with him >_>
I'll tell him I can investigate.
I'm not home yet. I'll come back when I get there.
Cinna Cake
I'm trying to take suspicions away from me, but I don't know if that'll work.
Cinna Cake
I haven't chosen my kill target for tonight,
I think I calmed SA's suspicions for now.
Cinna Cake
I'm off to bed.
Randomness tells me to kill Moon.
Any objections?
Aside from that, can you think of anything useful to SI?
You can frame someone, slander yourself and a townie I guess? Anything else besides frame we can do with the suitcase? I remember bribe, but you have the suitcase and I'm the killer, so I don't think we can use that.
Ok, I need my sleep. I'll check back in the morning and before phase change I'll be around.
dumytru
Our timezones don't really match...
SA asked me to SI darkest absol for killing KL. Is it to riski to frame DA and say that SI came true?
risky*
No objections about the kill.
SA wants me to SI because I told him I have an info-gathering ability. (he also said that if my ability is observe, then I shouldn't use it on the suspects)
I should be around today all day. Hopefully Handouts will send a notification when I receive a message.
Hmm, but then if be stalkes me out, he'll know i haven't SId DA.
Cinna Cake
Ok, so SA told me DA is his suspect for N1 kill. Since so many people claim not sending actions. Him, DA and me are the only ones left alive that surely sent actions n1
I told him I can investigate.
I'll copy a piece of his pm:
(Talking about DA the first part)
She is the only suspect left on Satou's death (if people actually forgot about N1). I know I did not kill her and you claim to have not done it too :v If we actually proceed with secret lynching, we might be able to catch the other BOs' way of voting. I'll go with publicly announcing her lynch only if we have definitive proof. So! The following are my suggestions for the night:
- If by any chance you are also able to Special Investigate, I'm begging you to check darkest absol killing Kaito Lady on Night 1!
- If you can investigate more than one, check on any player that is not darkest absol killing me(?)
- I'll check on any player that is not darkest absol killing you(?)
dumytru
I see
We should somehow make SA think you're not BO, because once DA dies, he will think that.
If i were him, I'd investigate you SI darkest.
Cinna
Or... We kill him now :x I feel bad about it :x
dumytru
well, he's the most active player
Cinna
I know, that's why i rather have him alive. It makes stuff interesting
dumytru
also, if we kill moon, I'd be the only one left in the first half of the list
yep, he does
and he probably wrote everything in his will
If you SI darkest, and tell SA he didn't do it, he might consider one of the people who lied about not sending actions did it.
she*
Cinna
He also said this:
I am going to tell you this. If I die tonight and get erased, proceed to lynch darkest absol on the next day. I still can't decide if this should be announced publicly or just be shared on a small number of trusted allies.
So, maybe frame someone else?
And, what was that about the top half of the list?
then if DA will die, it would look like we were avoided. Obviously I don't think people would even think about it. I just thought I'd mention it. ☺
Can I frame somebody killing you?
Cinna Cake
And we don't kill tonight?
dumytru
"How does Frame works?" <- I send this before, but it didn't get sent
Why not?
Cinna Cake
No, i think it could be a good idea
If we frame someone, they might get caught. But then how do we explain me not being dead?
dumytru
Protect-- I guess not.
How about this: you SI darkest, then tell SA she didn't do it, and I frame DA for killing Moon tonight.
this is from a conversation with SA: " Lastly, thank you for reminding me that other BO might be able to send actions for another BO if they give consent to the other being able to do so... It makes people who know ahead of time that they'll be busy, to leave their actions on their teammate while they feign inactivity"
Cinna Cake
That sounds like it could work
Ok, i like thiss plan
If I say I investigated DA killing Moon, it would be too fishy?
Cinna Cake
Maybe DA gets lynched day 2
dumytru
hmm. I could pose as Akai, who has 3 investigates.
Cinna Cake
Yeah, you'd have to be someone with more than one investigate
If not, it's way too suspicious
dumytru
I could tell SA now that I'll investigate DA tonight killing more players
the reasoning would be that if she didn't kill N1, but he's BO, she would kill tonight
Cinna Cake
Yes, this could be good
dumytru
I'll just check what roles have multiple investigations
SA said he can investigate, and since it's unlikely he's cop (?), he must be FBI with no SI
Ah, he could be civilian.
It should be fine then.
Cinna Cake
Ok, so I'm going to send my kill. Hopefully we get her.
Or a civilian
Ok, I'm happy with our plan
dumytru
yep. sending actions now
Cinna Cake
\o/
Don't forget to slander yourself, just in case. And maybe another townie?
dumytru
ok
Think I should observe SA?
we know he has investigate and age would help.
I'm only worried he might suspect one of us.
especially you since you know he has investigate
Cinna Cake
Yes. You think he'll have someone or himself SO him?
Hmm. I don't know.
Cinna Cake
Idk... Could be good to narrow him down a bit.
Should we take the risk?
dumytru
What can he know? At most the somebody observed him, right?
Cinna Cake
Do whatever you feel.
I think we'll be ok
dumytru
Ok. I will do it. It's probably worth the risk.
my actions:
Frame darkest absol for killing Moonraven tonight.
Slander myself and Yuri.
Gender-observe shinichi'sapprentice.
(sending them just in case I missed something)
Cinna Cake
Ok!
Mine:
Kill Moonraven.
And should I actually do the investigate ad SI I say? Or just use them on the people I claim, but check for other stuff?
dumytru
I think it's safe to do it. If he has multiple investigations, he might check you.
Cinna Cake
Ok
dumytru
"Ok, I pretty much decided what I'm going to do tonight.
I've created a suspect list from the information I have (statistically, anyways).
I'll take the people from that list and investigate them killing people that aren't on the list."
does this sounds okay?
(he asked me if decided on what do do)
Cinna Cake
Yep, sounds good
dumytru
my actions failed
Cinna Cake
D:
At least you weren't the killer
dumytru
yeah
We can't blame DA now
hopefully SA moves the lynch
with the lynch*
Cinna Cake
I really hope he tells people to vote da
dumytru
I should say in the thread that I got discombobulated, right?
Cinna Cake
Yeah
At least we have a lead for aptx
dumytru
yep
dumytru
you there?
Cinna Cake
Yes
I want to pretend I was ally with Moon, so I can justify my investigates and suspect list.
I just wanted to double check if there could be a risk.
He can't find out by any means, right?
I mean, talking to Moon in private isn't allowed, no?
Cinna Cake
He's not allowed
Dead people are not supposed to talk
dumytru
ok, I'm writing the message now and I'll send it to you before sending it to SA to double check. Is that alright?
Cinna Cake
Ok
before reading: this is NOT final. currently I'm trying to put the blame on DA, but I can't without putting you on the suspect list
basically I need a way of getting you out of there. Maybe we can say we're allied as well?
Cinna Cake
I'm gonna copy/paste what sa pmd me
dumytru
Is it bad?
Cinna Cake
Any helpful info you got last night? I still want to go on with lynching darkest absol despite of lack of definitive proof. And I can't very well announce that yet in the thread because the BO will just follow the votes...
dumytru
oh, then after my PM he'll definitely go with DA
Cinna Cake
I'm planing to tell sa i'll contact you since you were discombobheggshd and someone got killed
dumytru
problem is once she's dead, how we avoid him suspecting you.
hmm, that's good
what do you think about my PM?
Cinna Cake
Yeah, idk. Once DA's dead we have how many townies? 3?
Can we bribe kill the next time?
dumytru
ah. right.
hmm, I don't know
Cinna Cake
GMs said nothing about bribe
I wonder if we have the right to use it, then the game would be over?
Would be a very short game
dumytru
Let's ask the GMs then
Cinna Cake
Yeah
dumytru
I sent the PM to SA. When will you be contacting me? (so I won't mess up in future PMS)
and yeah
short game indeedCinna Cake
It's 4pm here. What time over there?
dumytru
10 PM
Cinna Cake
I'll ask the GMs and see if they answer us soon
dumytru
ok. I'll go to sleep since I have an exam on Monday.
I think I'll be around for half an hour...
Cinna Cake
Ok
I'll pm you right bow to ally
dumytru
(if you think it's weird that I sleep instead of studying, it's because I know most of the stuff, but it's that kind of exam where small mistakes mess up everything, and I have to be fresh)
Cinna Cake
^^' it's ok. Sometimes it's better to get rest than to be too tired to get answers right
I pmd you and gm
Are you sleeping already?
I'm thinking about not telling SA about the SI. He might end up wanting to lynch me if I said DA didn't kill N1 :x
dumytru
well, I told him I think he didn't kill N1 and he did kill N2
she
I don't know. Telling him might make him trust you.
..might..
Cinna Cake
Oh, ok, so you think it's fine to tell him DA killing KL came back false?
I guess it could be fine. Then, if he contacts the cop, they might try an arrest for me killing kl, and that would fail!
I'm gonna tell him.
dumytru
Yep.
Sounds fine.
Cinna Cake
Ok, go to sleep if you have to, i think I'll pm you checking if you have info.
dumytru
okay
Cinna Cake
We can bribe kill
dumytru
Amazing
Cinna Cake
So, that means you should keep the suitcase i think. Rules say the one holding the suitcase has to be the one killing (if i didn't misread)
dumytru
Ok, so then I have to send the BS to me? (or just now say anything at all?)
anyways, I'm going to sleep. It's been an hours since I said I will and I'm still here.
Later o/
Cinna Cake
I'll ask.
Good night! o/
dumytru
From SA:""
"I apologize for the late response! I keep getting distracted and the lack of food and sleep were affecting everything ;v
I read all your messages but just didn't have the time to reply until now.
This day phase, I think we should take the risk of secretly lynching darkest absol. I have only told you this and one other person so if there are more than three people voting her today, I would consider you or that other person a traitor by concluding that one of you guys have told another person about this lynch. With only six players left, we need to catch at least one BO or the game might already be over before we know it.
Do you find anybody else suspicious aside from the two you mentioned from your earlier messages?"
Told him I'd vote darkest absol, obviously.
Cinna Cake
I'm the other person voting with him ^^'
dumytru
yep, I figured
Cinna Cake
This is good
I told him i'd vote with him too
I asked kain about the suitcase, i'm waiting for a reply.
I think we just tell them you'll keep the suitcase.
dumytru
Ah, I ended up asking when I sent my actions.
I'll just give it to myself.
Cinna Cake
Yeah
I'll send my vote
dumytru
How much time left do we have until the phase change?
I still haven't figured out when it is.
Cinna Cake
An hour and 15 minutes
dumytru
i see. hanks
thanks
dumytru
\o/
Cinna Cake
Yay!!! \o/
dumytru
I wonder if SA will realize we are BO o.O
Cinna Cake
I'm afraid he'll be suspicious of at least one of us
Yuri and kleene haven't been very active >_>
dumytru
well, it doesn't really matter
Cinna Cake
Who do you think it's the cop?
dumytru
might be SA
Cinna Cake
I wonder if it's SA
Yeah
I'll pm him later.
Who do you think we should kill?
After our kill, it'll be 2 vs 2
What if there's a cop between those 2?
The game keeps going?
dumytru
I'm not sure.
Also, can bribe kill be discombobulated?
Cinna Cake
Nope, nothing stops bribe kill
dumytru
the game might go on, we should ask the GMs
Cinna Cake
I reread bribe rules just in case. Nothing stops the bribe kill
dumytru (right after the phase change)
Also, I think I'll send the kill now. I have that exam tomorrow and it's going to take a while.
Cinna Cake
Would you like it to keep going? Or should we kill SA?
If we need a cop for the game to keep going, then we can kill kleene or yuri i think
dumytru
Killing SA might end up boring.
Cinna Cake
That's what i think, if he's the cop, it could make the game last another phase
I'll ask, but I think if it's 2 vs 2 with a cop for town, the game could keep going
dumytru
Okay. I'll send the kill for Kleene
also will try to observe SA egain
again
Maybe I should slender us?
Cinna Cake
Ok. Also, can we use the suitcase to slander?
I already interrogate town, because i'm disguised as james
Slander yuri maybe
dumytru
ok.
Cinna Cake
And you
dumytru
that's right
Cinna Cake
And maybe leave a note just in ase something comes up, so O could change your actions (i'll only do it if completely necessary)
*case
dumytru
ok
Cinna Cake
That way we're safe even if you're not around
I'm sure I'll be around, i'm off tomorrow
dumytru
ok, done
Cinna Cake
I hope your exam goes well!!! \o/
Thanks!
\o/
Cinna Cake
dumytru
I should be aroung from now on.
I passed the exam, so I'm super-happy.
The teacher had two optiosn for us: 10 simple problems (from which we had to solve 5 out of 10 to pass) and 6 harder problems.
He said that if we wrote ANYTHING AT ALL on those 6 problems, he wouldn't even look at the 10 simple problems. I solved more than 5 out of 10 problems, then I started working on those 6 (which required that I knew some theory I only had a vague idea of).
Obvously I just canceled anything I did on the 10 problems, and based only on the 6 problems.
I was the only one who (tried to solve) solved those 6 problems, so that's why I'm happy.
Sorry if I may not make any sense (or my grammar is bad), I just wrote this fast so.
That was pretty offtopic. Related to Mafia: SA asked me if I can arrest (I told him I can't) and he still trust me (apparently).
Cinna Cake
\o/ I'm very happy for you!!!
\o\ \o/ /o/
Cinna Cake
SA pmd me:
Before I start again on what possible actions we should send tonight, I'd like to hear if you have any suggestions first.
I'll probably end up investigating people killing you tonight.
If you are Rena, please spill out every last Betrayal results you've got so we can have a list of other crimes that our cop can arrest from aside from the outrageous Night 1 kill. It'll also greatly help to know how many exactly are the BO we are fighting.
If you are James, please let me know if you believe something is strange with your subordinate/s...
FBI Leader wrote:
- If Vermouth or Kid has a disguise of an FBI subordinate, regardless of if they use the disguise during the game, it will be counted in the subordinate list and James will receive a small hint akin to, "You believe something is strange with your subordinate(s)..."
I may also have a way to protect our cop but it will depend on circumstances...
SA could be akai, maybe?
I'm afraid to claim james, but i could just say I'm him, and no such message came up, because I'm Vermy and kid's dead
Cinna Cake
I'm about to send my reply to SA.
Here's what I wrote:
Do you think I SI KL's kill again? Or I try Moon, with yuri, dumy or kleene as the killer?
I can investigate someone killing you.
So, I'm not Rena....
(I feel like being Rena would've been more useful >_>)
I'm James (I always feel naked when I tell someone my role
). I guess Vermy's not in the game, I didn't get that message about a subordinate.
Would the game be over already if there was 3 BO? Or would it keep going because there's a cop?
If there is three, the game could be over tonight ;_; (why didn't we get more players?!!! D: I'm glad we're having a game, but so little amount of players
)If there's 2 BO (this is what I hope for), and their kill somehow fails, then we could maybe finally lynch one tomorrow.
((I'll probably send in actions now, I have to go out and don't know what time I'll unbusy myself. But I'll try to check back before phase change from y phone, in case you have something specific you want me to SI or investigate))
dumytru
You convinced me
Cinna Cake
^^'
That last part about going out, it's not true. I just don't want him asking questions about the info james got.
I'll be around
I have to go out, but just for a bit
dumytru
I should be around too.
Cinna Cake
\o/
Ok, I'll send the pm
Cinna Cake
Dumy!!!!!
Since you've told me so much, I guess I'll tell ya what I think...
I see we have the same things in mind!
Of the three remaining people who claims to have missed Night 1, I've decided to arrest dumytru tonight for killing Kaito Lady on Night 1. He publicly claimed to have been tricked on Night 2 despite someone still dying which means someone else has committed the act. He also has stopped replying after a barrage of messages from me xD
If this arrest fails, the game is over however many BOs we have. ;__;
If this arrest is successful however, we can prevent a death tonight if the BO decides to have dumytru take tonight's kill.
As I've said on my last message, I think I'll stick with investigating people killing you.
Investigate Kleene killing me tonight!
I also agree with Special Investigating Kleene in particular for killing MoonRaven on Night 2!
After so much deliberation, I think 2 town vs 3 BO will still be possible as long as the cop continues on magically arresting the correct culprits xD But I'm still hoping for 3 town vs 2 BO ;__;
If tonight's arrest is successful and I die and the game is still going AND one of your investigations come back as true, LYNCH KLEENE NEXT DAY PHASE!
I'm sending actions after this.
Your kill will still go through if you get arrested, but :O
I'm probably going to tell him a fake result afterwards
dumytru
I simply stoped responding because of my exam
and then I just slept
Cinna Cake
Awww
dumytru
and then I was late for the train, and actually ended up missing it (by 3 minutes)_
now I'm waiting for the next one (they let me change tickets for about 1$, so that's that)
Cinna Cake
Well, I rather have you arrested than dead though.
The bribe kill will go through even if you get arrested.
dumytru
I'm going to send a PM to SA saying I was busy all day
do you think I could make it obvious that I found out he suspects me?
Cinna Cake
Yeah, might make him change his mind!
And we still have a bit of time before phase change
dumytru
I'll just say "Sorry I haven't replied, I was busy all day (long exam and work, idk)
Cinna Cake
Be careful, he really trust me now.
yes
But I wonder.... he suspects kleene....
Should we exchange the kill? Or is it too late? :x
dumytru
hmm, might be too late.
And I'm sure Kain already made the story.
Cinna Cake
Do you want me to ask in my pm?
I'm about to send my investigates
If it's possible, if not, then go ahead and leave it as it is
dumytru
sure. you can also change my actions, so you may ask for change if possible
if you want to
Cinna Cake
Ok, I'll just ask kain if it's not too much trouble. If it is, she can go ahead and leave it be.
we kill yuri?
if we can of course
dumytru
sure
Cinna Cake
ok
dumytru
also, we can try to APTX SA, right?
I just looked and there are 5 roles with investigate and arrest
statistically it's a good shot
Cinna Cake
Yeah! We try aptx! \o/
if my gender-observe would go through it would have been better, but he's arresting me....
Cinna Cake
yeah
he could get discombodjkshkdjsted
there's a slight chance
dumytru
ah. right.
Cinna Cake
That would be awesome
dumytru
yep
Phase change is in 30 minutes, right?
Cinna Cake
I think so, but I'm sort of confused ^^'
dumytru
I've been pretty confused about the phase change
this round, I mean
Cinna Cake
yeah, first it was one time, then half an hour later, then another phase change was half an hour after that, because of the story, but I have no idea if that was a permanent thing, and now they moved it 1,5 hours
o_o
kain said we can change it, so we bribe kill yuri, and then might be able to lynch kleene with SA
dumytru
\o/
Cinna Cake
Ok, I'm hungry, I'll have lunch while I wait for ohase change :3
dumytru
Enjoy your meal
SA read my message. No reply yet though.
Cinna Cake
thanks ^^
dumytru
"dumytru gets arrested"
yey
this means SA pretty much knows I'm BO, right?
Cinna Cake
I think? I will feed a fake result to SA. He asked me to SI kleene killing Moon
dumytru
yep
Cinna Cake
Then, we lynch kleene and I try to aptx SA
dumytru
I suppose it all comes down to who SA trusts more (you or Kleene)
and whether we can APTX SA
Cinna Cake
Yeah, he seems to trust me, I have no idea if he's been speaking to kleene
If it's just me sending the aptx... can I send 3? Or just one? I'm guessing 1, but idk
dumytru
oh. I thought we can send all 3
also, SA can arrest this phase, right?
if he arrests you for killing N2 and lynches Kleene
then town may just win :\
Cinna Cake
Mmmm.... Hey, we decided to let SA live because we wanted to have fun. We could've killed him tonight, so I consider it ok to lose ^^'
dumytru
yeah, I know. I'm fine with losing. It was a fun ride.
Cinna Cake
Yeah ^^
dumytru
even though there weren't many players
Cinna Cake
SA makes the game a bit more active
dumytru
indeed
Cinna Cake
Let's see how much he trusts me
dumytru
I'll be away for a while now.
Cinna Cake
ok
We'll talk later about the aptx.
dumytru
ok, I'm here.
should be around for the next 5 hours
Cinna Cake
ok, I Pmd SA:
\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ Yay!!! One down!
I got my results, but I don't get it?
Says kleene did kill Moon N2. How is that possible? Dumy kills KL N1 (because the arrest went through), kleene kills Moon N2 (because the SI result says so), but tonight... if it was dumy's turn to kill (I'm guessing we only have 2 BO, if not game over, right?)... how come the kill happened? Kills don't happen if people get arrested, right? o_O
I mean, it's good news. We know kleene's the other BO and we're 2 to 1 in the lynch vote. It's just that I don't get it
I wanna seem innocent... I hope it's working ^^'
I'll let you know when he replies
dumytru
yeah
one down
it makes sense. hopefully he'll think about bribe
he send me a PM asking why I'm in jail
Cinna Cake
I think he will
dumytru
I was kinda half-joking "Maybe for a crime I commited...?" and then i said "I was probably framed, but whatever; I won't be out to see the game end"
at the very least, he'll consider frame a posibility
sent*
Cinna Cake
^^'
Yeah, it doesn't change anything
yeah
I almost said "because you arrested me", and then I realized I could've known that only if you told me
Cinna Cake
Yeah, but if he thinks you're innocent, he might arrest me ^^'
I don't mind ending the game in jail with my partner in crime though
dumytru
nah. APTX SA and lynch Kleene is the way
Cinna Cake
:3
dumytru
We lost the BS, right? because I'm in jail.
Cinna Cake
Idk?
But if the game ends. We don't need it anymore. I'm thinking it'll be game over tomorrow
dumytru
*sunglasses emoticon* (the forums can't use those characters)
Cinna Cake
Anyway, it was just my own theory that dumytru might take the kill tonight. If he did, but the arrest was successful, then the kill shouldn't have went through unless BRIBE was used.
If there are only two BOs, then Kleene can commit a back-to-back kill (N2 and N3) since the first BO killing-cycle, everybody having their turn to kill, already went around.
If there were three BOs, then that will be totally senseless since that would mean you're a BO! xD
Go ahead and send your LYNCH VOTE for Kleene today! If only Yuri did what I asked her to last night, it would have probably prevented her death.
SA replied
And I gotta go now. I'll be back later, but you'll probably be asleep.
So I think we'll talk more tomorrow before phase change
dumytru
okay
I really wonder if SA will try to arrest you. It would be pretty smart of him to do that.
Good night!
Cinna Cake
Yeah, he might. We'll find out tomorrow.
Good night! o/
\o
Cinna Cake
If you're around, I'm just going to pop out ideas to aptx.
even if you're not here, it'll help me decide which aptx to send in.
So SA is a cop that can investigate.
Cops that have investigate:
Megure
Shiratori
Satou
Nakamori
Yumi
Yamato
Satou's dead.
I think if he was Nakamori maybe he would've pinched me by now?
Pinching doesn't cause suspension if it fails according to what I read.
But it does leave a notice... so he could hesitate to use it because it would reveal that nakamori's in.
Yumi, i'm guessing she's not in?
Because that would only leave you and kleene as lovers.
I'm leaning towards Megure or Shiratori. Maybe SA housesearched someone, and that's how he got suspended?
I think I'll send those two, and then........
Nakamori or Yamato?
Cinna Cake
I choose nakamori, just because was in the game :V (I have no idea who to choose)*kid was in the game
Ok. I'm sending it, but I don't know if I can actually use the three aptx by myself on one phase.
I told Kain that my first choice was Megure in case we just get 1. I don't really know.
Ok, sorry for writing so much... I needed to put my ideas out there ^^'
dumytru
no problem
sorry I wasn't here
Question: think we should make our conversation public on the forums?
I'm pretty sure SA would enjoy reading it.
Cinna Cake
Sorry, i just got to work, after 4 i won't be available. Is phase change up already?
But yeah, we can go public
dumytru
Should be soon
...not sure what you mean by 4
Cinna Cake
Sorry ^^'
In 20 minutes
dumytru
i see
Cinna Cake
Ok, he knows I'm evil now, and he's suspended
We can win?
dumytru
I don't see why not. He can't prevent his death
