Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 931-935

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I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
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I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
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Re: Discussion Thread: Detective Conan 931-93X

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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
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I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
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I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
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Well, it's just feels like sort of repetitive. And I just remembered that Mermaid case too! And then there was the turtle-looking island related to the stolen crane painting... But yeah, when I being thinking about Heiji cases the ones with something supernatural lore behind them pops up to mind first... and would the Halloween showdown count too...
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MoonRaven wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
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I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
Spoiler:
I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
Spoiler:
Well, it's just feels like sort of repetitive. And I just remembered that Mermaid case too! And then there was the turtle-looking island related to the stolen crane painting... But yeah, when I being thinking about Heiji cases the ones with something supernatural lore behind them pops up to mind first... and would the Halloween showdown count too...
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That's because Heiji cases are written to follow the basic early 1900s cozy (soft boiled) murder mystery settings, tropes and rules... There are 16 different character archetypes Gosho can go for with these cases and add multiple ones into one character (Heiji and Conan included during the Main cases) anyways so it doesn't matter.
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MoonRaven wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
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I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
Spoiler:
I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
Spoiler:
Well, it's just feels like sort of repetitive. And I just remembered that Mermaid case too! And then there was the turtle-looking island related to the stolen crane painting... But yeah, when I being thinking about Heiji cases the ones with something supernatural lore behind them pops up to mind first... and would the Halloween showdown count too...
The difference is that some cases actually rely on characters thinking that the supernatural creature is real and that the creature is doing the killings, and some just have the idea or theme of being scary.

Then, you also have the differences between Japanese folklore and foreign folklore. Creatures like Yuki-onna, Kappa, and Kamaitachi are all Japanese youkai myths. While Mermaids, Vampires, and Zombies originate from Western myth. Then the Demon Dog was a Sherlock Holmes: Hound of the Baskervilles reference.
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Spoilers for 932 (for all you non cbox people):
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Title: Funeral Procession of the Departed

The cause of death is potassium cyanide, the smart phone shows the producer poisoning himself. Upon searching the producer’s corpse they find an ominous memo addressed to the director’s deceased brother, Naitou Jouji, and an envelope that contains the subtitle of the movie they’re filming (Funeral Procession of the Departed).

It’s become customary for the producer to announce the subtitle at a timing of his own choosing and if by some mistake someone finds out earlier he immediately changes the subtitle.
When he was president of the horror club, Jouji directed a movie for the school festival, but wanted to change it to a suspense movie.

He still had a taste for horror, but felt that a story needs logic as well.
In order to make the club members understand, he put on a play and showed them …
However no one expected Jouji to make himself the victim in a locked room murder.
The footage from that event is gone and the movie was put on hold.

Maybe it’s because they were talking about zombies the whole time, but suddenly they really hear a zombie-like moaning. When they look closely they see that it’s just the still dizzy Kogorou.
Kogorou says the villa is encircled by zombies, and it doesn’t look like it’s the delirium talking…

Side note: ’Funeral Procession of the Departed’ - The last will and testament of the deceased has become reality?!

(Source: http://festy.jp/web/posts/3750 )
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I feel this Jouji guy. I wouldn't want to direct a horror movie either where clowns are magician killers from another dimensions.
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jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
Spoiler:
I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
Spoiler:
I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
Spoiler:
Well, it's just feels like sort of repetitive. And I just remembered that Mermaid case too! And then there was the turtle-looking island related to the stolen crane painting... But yeah, when I being thinking about Heiji cases the ones with something supernatural lore behind them pops up to mind first... and would the Halloween showdown count too...
The difference is that some cases actually rely on characters thinking that the supernatural creature is real and that the creature is doing the killings, and some just have the idea or theme of being scary.

Then, you also have the differences between Japanese folklore and foreign folklore. Creatures like Yuki-onna, Kappa, and Kamaitachi are all Japanese youkai myths. While Mermaids, Vampires, and Zombies originate from Western myth. Then the Demon Dog was a Sherlock Holmes: Hound of the Baskervilles reference.
Point is, it isn't really repetitive—only a fraction of the Heiji cases follow this pattern.
“Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent. We would not dare to conceive the things which are really mere commonplaces of existence. If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chains of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outre results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable.”
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DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
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I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
Spoiler:
I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
Spoiler:
Well, it's just feels like sort of repetitive. And I just remembered that Mermaid case too! And then there was the turtle-looking island related to the stolen crane painting... But yeah, when I being thinking about Heiji cases the ones with something supernatural lore behind them pops up to mind first... and would the Halloween showdown count too...
The difference is that some cases actually rely on characters thinking that the supernatural creature is real and that the creature is doing the killings, and some just have the idea or theme of being scary.

Then, you also have the differences between Japanese folklore and foreign folklore. Creatures like Yuki-onna, Kappa, and Kamaitachi are all Japanese youkai myths. While Mermaids, Vampires, and Zombies originate from Western myth. Then the Demon Dog was a Sherlock Holmes: Hound of the Baskervilles reference.
Point is, it isn't really repetitive—only a fraction of the Heiji cases follow this pattern.
*is just happy that her comment sparked so much conversation*
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MoonRaven wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
jimmy_kud0_tv2 wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
DCUniverseAficionado wrote:
MoonRaven wrote:
Spoiler:
I really don't know what to think about this case. I mean... Supernatural occurences with Heiji. Again? There has been Yuki-Onna, the spider-queen-attic-mansion thingy(SHINE-case), demon dog, I guess FuuRinKaZan could also be counted, Vampire Mansion... And now Zombies...
Spoiler:
I think that story type only comprises 1/5th of the Heiji cases, if you don't like the repetitiveness... if you are saying its repetitive, of course.
Spoiler:
Well, it's just feels like sort of repetitive. And I just remembered that Mermaid case too! And then there was the turtle-looking island related to the stolen crane painting... But yeah, when I being thinking about Heiji cases the ones with something supernatural lore behind them pops up to mind first... and would the Halloween showdown count too...
The difference is that some cases actually rely on characters thinking that the supernatural creature is real and that the creature is doing the killings, and some just have the idea or theme of being scary.

Then, you also have the differences between Japanese folklore and foreign folklore. Creatures like Yuki-onna, Kappa, and Kamaitachi are all Japanese youkai myths. While Mermaids, Vampires, and Zombies originate from Western myth. Then the Demon Dog was a Sherlock Holmes: Hound of the Baskervilles reference.
Point is, it isn't really repetitive—only a fraction of the Heiji cases follow this pattern.
*is just happy that her comment sparked so much conversation*
Glad that Jimmy and I were able to help! ^–^

EDIT (9/14/15):

Re-posted this from DCW, due to the new file coming out today: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4042806724
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Zombie attack!... but it'll be revealed to be another trick, come next file. Kogoro looked like he was a part of it, too. ;D

Love Heiji's blush at Shinichi/Conan, as well as his whistle (the music note that shows happiness), and Shinichi's/Conan's reaction. :D

The camerawoman had a "..." reaction to the video shot be the producer as she died, or a subsequent comment of Heiji's, so...
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Poor Kogoro ;D
Conan where is your tranquilizer when someone really need it ?

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So ? in which prefecture this case is taking place?
Still no indication?
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It may be just me, but one of the zombies at the last panel of 932 kinda looks like Kindaichi.
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any possible explanation to the zombie attack trick?
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David mason wrote:
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any possible explanation to the zombie attack trick?
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Whether it's a trick or not is yet to be seen but it's either alot of background characters arriving for the filming or it's not even really happening.
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k11chi wrote:
David mason wrote:
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any possible explanation to the zombie attack trick?
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Whether it's a trick or not is yet to be seen but it's either alot of background characters arriving for the filming or it's not even really happening.
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Who would stay in-character when arriving for the filming instead of during the filming itself?
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This is actually getting pretty interesting. First Kogoro gets incapacitated, but not by the culprit (presumably). Then there's a bunch of guys surrounding the place. It's not often we get large crowds of people like that. I presume they're there for something innocent and aren't involved, but you never know, huh?
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