(Spoilers) Postcard and Animal Crossings hints/ spoilers

[Jecka]

"If Sera likes ramen, then...? Chuukichi will also like ramen (laughs)
(i guess since the Sera one ends with topic particle "wa", and the Chuukichi one has "mo".)

But Sera's also has "mo".

Also, not really happy with Shuukichi being the middle brother. Still hoping it's a red herring :V

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Also, not really happy with Shuukichi being the middle brother. Still hoping it's a red herring :V

ABBC3_OFFTOPIC

same here. It always just felt awkward to me since there was really only one person introduced that actually seemed to fit any of the clues we have been given, and its someone who has a really similar sounding given name. It kind of begs the question of why even make it a mystery in the first place if it was meant to be really obvious......unless we are being tricked somehow??

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Also, not really happy with Shuukichi being the middle brother. Still hoping it's a red herring :V

ABBC3_OFFTOPIC

same here. It always just felt awkward to me since there was really only one person introduced that actually seemed to fit any of the clues we have been given, and its someone who has a really similar sounding given name. It kind of begs the question of why even make it a mystery in the first place if it was meant to be really obvious......unless we are being tricked somehow??

ABBC3_OFFTOPIC

And what of the other animal crossing hints on this topic? Are we being tricked, there, as well? (Sera-chan calls "Kichi-nii," It's "Kichi-nii!") Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?

My guess is that some people are assuming he's going to have nothing to do with the plot once it's revealed he's the middle brother, which is why people are worried about it (This might not be your concern, though—I'm not saying you said this is why you're concerned about this). I can see the concern, from a mystery perspective, but this mystery isn't like the Vermouth/Bourbon mystery. Shukichi is not going to turn out to be Rum or a BO agent (you can quote me if this somehow happens), so it's either he's the middle brother, and will still affect the plot, or he's just a really good Shogi player and Yumi's boyfriend who's likely going to go the way of Ariade, once it's revealed he's not the middle brother.

I understand the "too obvious to be true" argument, and it's very possible that Masumi's been lying about even having a second brother, and that she's been in contact with Shuichi/Subaru, but I can't help but think that Shukichi being Masumi's and Shuichi's brother is "too obvious not to be true."

Either way, if Shukichi appears in this case and he and Masumi finally see each other, we may get an answer… or Gosho could pull a similar trick to the one he used to keep Rei/Tooru and Masumi from meeting in File 800/Episode 674. That meeting needs to happen, as well.

By the way, have you seen my post on your middle brother theory thread? I mentioned this in that post.

Spoilers for safety:

Spoiler:

Should this be seen as offtopic? It does pertain to the contents of the most recent hints.

[Fujiwara]

New animal crossing hints pertaining to the upcoming case (File 928+):
(Source: http://sky969blue6261.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-187.html)

Spoiler:

Spade:

Translation: The next case will be about Ramen~

Heart:

Translation: Even though the waistline has recently become problematic.

Diamond:

Translation: Shuukissy seems to like Ramen *laughs*

Clover:

Translation: And Sera likes Ramen too. Does that mean...?

Someone else has them in a different order and combined Diamond and Clover so that it made one sentence
"If Sera likes ramen, then...? Chuukichi will also like ramen (laughs)
(i guess since the Sera one ends with topic particle "wa", and the Chuukichi one has "mo".)

Don't know where you read that, but it doesn't really work out the way you think, since, as Jecka pointed out, the Sera sentence also has the particle "mo," making the two work a bit like a pair (Both A and B like Ramen), in which case putting "tte koto ha" into the middle sounds kinda weird (like saying "both A likes Ramen, so that means...? B also likes Ramen"). The "both" is basically created by both sentence having "mo," thus the "Does that mean...?" makes a lot more sense at the end of both sentences, imo. No idea whether there's a given order you're supposed to read them in, so my order is merely based on my linguistic judgement. (Hope that explanation makes sense.)
TL;DR: It might be possible, but actually sounds kinda awkward in Japanese.

[Kor]

And what of the other animal crossing hints on this topic? Are we being tricked, there, as well? (Sera-chan calls "Kichi-nii," It's "Kichi-nii!") Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?

The next case will be an ardent love revelation

A big couple will be born!?

[wrd]

Also, not really happy with Shuukichi being the middle brother. Still hoping it's a red herring :V

ABBC3_OFFTOPIC

same here. It always just felt awkward to me since there was really only one person introduced that actually seemed to fit any of the clues we have been given, and its someone who has a really similar sounding given name. It kind of begs the question of why even make it a mystery in the first place if it was meant to be really obvious......unless we are being tricked somehow??

I agree;

This is why I hope Gosho will put an end to this "middle brother" thing soon (hopefully in this case), because if he is really Shuukichi I don't see why Gosho keeps dragging it ...Unless, like jimmy said, we are being tricked.

[DCUniverseAficionado]

And what of the other animal crossing hints on this topic? Are we being tricked, there, as well? (Sera-chan calls "Kichi-nii," It's "Kichi-nii!") Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?

The next case will be an ardent love revelation

A big couple will be born!?

Eh... okay, I should've thought of that, but those were hints for that one specific case—a case that had nothing to do with the plot besides a bit of information about Kuroda. That's not enough to say, "Gosho's tricking us about a major plot element/mystery because he lied about Yoko and Ryusuke being a couple!" Not to mention this was well after the two Kichi-nii hints. You may be right that Gosho lied to us at least once with the AC hints, and that may (not saying it is) be enough for you, but not for me.

If he is really Shuukichi I don't see why Gosho keeps dragging it...

Plenty of people don't see why Gosho spent seven years on the Bourbon arc... why he dragged it on for so long.

[jimmy_kud0_tv2]

Don't know where you read that, but it doesn't really work out the way you think, since, as Jecka pointed out, the Sera sentence also has the particle "mo," making the two work a bit like a pair (Both A and B like Ramen), in which case putting "tte koto ha" into the middle sounds kinda weird (like saying "both A likes Ramen, so that means...? B also likes Ramen"). The "both" is basically created by both sentence having "mo," thus the "Does that mean...?" makes a lot more sense at the end of both sentences, imo. No idea whether there's a given order you're supposed to read them in, so my order is merely based on my linguistic judgement. (Hope that explanation makes sense.)
TL;DR: It might be possible, but actually sounds kinda awkward in Japanese.

It was someone on twitter, they simply put that it was continued from the other one and translated it like that
I just thought I'd ask to make sure, so that the first post could be accurate.

ABBC3_OFFTOPIC

And what of the other animal crossing hints on this topic? Are we being tricked, there, as well? (Sera-chan calls "Kichi-nii," It's "Kichi-nii!") Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?

My guess is that some people are assuming he's going to have nothing to do with the plot once it's revealed he's the middle brother, which is why people are worried about it (This might not be your concern, though—I'm not saying you said this is why you're concerned about this). I can see the concern, from a mystery perspective, but this mystery isn't like the Vermouth/Bourbon mystery. Shukichi is not going to turn out to be Rum or a BO agent (you can quote me if this somehow happens), so it's either he's the middle brother, and will still affect the plot, or he's just a really good Shogi player and Yumi's boyfriend who's likely going to go the way of Ariade, once it's revealed he's not the middle brother.

I understand the "too obvious to be true" argument, and it's very possible that Masumi's been lying about even having a second brother, and that she's been in contact with Shuichi/Subaru, but I can't help but think that Shukichi being Masumi's and Shuichi's brother is "too obvious not to be true."

Either way, if Shukichi appears in this case and he and Masumi finally see each other, we may get an answer… or Gosho could pull a similar trick to the one he used to keep Rei/Tooru and Masumi from meeting in File 800/Episode 674. That meeting needs to happen, as well.

By the way, have you seen my post on your middle brother theory thread? I mentioned this in that post.

ABBC3_OFFTOPIC

In the other thread, the first post had not been updated in any way since it had been written, a year ago. At that point we didn't really know about all of the hints, and the "Kichi-nii" hint didn't appear for the first time until after people had stopped posting in that thread during 2014. I had actually said in another post somewhere in that thread that I didn't want to reply again until we had some new information (which I guess would be this case, assuming Masumi actually meets Shuukichi). The whole point of that other thread was trying to find another suspect that could fit, and make it work, and the only thing that really contradicts it being possible, is Gosho joking around about a connection between Masumi and Shuukichi via animal crossings, but not actually putting it in the manga to show or prove it to us. The first "Kichi-nii" hint was from August of last year, granted he has been in and out of the hospital since then, he still has had at least six cases between then and now to give us something to that effect.

My main concern with it all was just why make it a mystery, if you are just going to point blank tell us who it is with out anything big or interesting about the mystery? I mean with the actual cases in the series where there is just one suspect, you have this whole "how did they do it" thing that makes the case worth reading even when you already know who did it, but you don't really have that here. With Shuukichi, we already know he is smart from him solving two cases alongside Conan, so it stands to reason he could solve cases sent to him by phone, and he also fits some of the descriptions set by Masumi, and looks kind of similar to Shuuichi. So why even make it a mystery? Why not just tell us from the beginning, if it was going to be so obvious? Thats why I think there is going to be some other explanation for it all, although I do admit I could be wrong, I just don't like how the whole thing has been presented so far.

[Kor]

And what of the other animal crossing hints on this topic? Are we being tricked, there, as well? (Sera-chan calls "Kichi-nii," It's "Kichi-nii!") Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?

The next case will be an ardent love revelation

A big couple will be born!?

Eh... okay, I should've thought of that, but those were hints for that one specific case—a case that had nothing to do with the plot besides a bit of information about Kuroda. That's not enough to say, "Gosho's tricking us about a major plot element/mystery because he lied about Yoko and Ryusuke being a couple!" Not to mention this was well after the two Kichi-nii hints. You may be right that Gosho lied to us at least once with the AC hints, and that may (not saying it is) be enough for you, but not for me.

I didn't really intend to argue there over something, just to answer the "Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?" part.

[DCUniverseAficionado]

And what of the other animal crossing hints on this topic? Are we being tricked, there, as well? (Sera-chan calls "Kichi-nii," It's "Kichi-nii!") Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?

The next case will be an ardent love revelation

A big couple will be born!?

Eh... okay, I should've thought of that, but those were hints for that one specific case—a case that had nothing to do with the plot besides a bit of information about Kuroda. That's not enough to say, "Gosho's tricking us about a major plot element/mystery because he lied about Yoko and Ryusuke being a couple!" Not to mention this was well after the two Kichi-nii hints. You may be right that Gosho lied to us at least once with the AC hints, and that may (not saying it is) be enough for you, but not for me.

I didn't really intend to argue there over something, just to answer the "Has Gosho ever tricked us with the animal crossing hints?" part.

I figured that's why you just used quotes to reply.

[wrd]

Plenty of people don't see why Gosho spent seven years on the Bourbon arc... why he dragged it on for so long.

Certainly you are aware that the two mysteries aren't comparable;

While I agree with you about the Bourbon arc having been dragged on for years despite of the obvious hints; we were at least presented with 3 suspects, which isn't the case with the "middle bro" mystery: we have a sufficient amount of hints pointed to one person, this is why I think it's about time for Gosho to clear up this point once and for all, and to get on with introducing Shuukichi's real important role in the plot (if there is one).

Unless Gosho is planning to present Shuukichi as a suspect of being RUM (which is completely irreasonable given the facts), or maybe he is planning to creat some other characters and present them as suspects of being the middle bro (and that doesn't seem to be fitting with the RUM arc, at least to me).

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Plenty of people don't see why Gosho spent seven years on the Bourbon arc... why he dragged it on for so long.

Certainly you are aware that the two mysteries aren't comparable;

While I agree with you about the Bourbon arc having been dragged on for years despite of the obvious hints; we were at least presented with 3 suspects, which isn't the case with the "middle bro" mystery: we have a sufficient amount of hints pointed to one person, this is why I think it's about time for Gosho to clear up this point once and for all, and to get on with introducing Shuukichi's real important role in the plot (if there is one).

Unless Gosho is planning to present Shuukichi as a suspect of being RUM (which is completely irreasonable given the facts), or maybe he is planning to creat some other characters and present them as suspects of being the middle bro (and that doesn't seem to be fitting with the RUM arc, at least to me).

Shuichi/Subaru is a suspect, isn't he? That makes two, just like Jodie and Ariade during the Vermouth arc. Yes, this mystery isn't about a BO agent, yes, Shukichi isn't Rum, and yes, Gosho needs to address this. I can't imagine Shukichi not having a role in the plot if he is the middle brother—I think people are concerned because of the quality of the Bourbon arc, and since many of their cynical predictions have proved true, they see no reason in making more cynical predictions, given how predictable they see Gosho as, right now. He's developed this pattern of leaving mysteries to hang for years, while many people deduce—correctly—what the mystery is, in short order (Subaru=Shuichi, Masumi=Shuichi's sister, Rei/Tooru=Bourbon and even Rei/Tooru=PSB/PSIA mole, all shortly after each of their introductions).

The only way the middle brother mystery won't end with him being revealed to be Shukichi or Shuichi/Subaru is if new characters are introduced as suspects, and one turns out to be the middle brother.

[Uchiha Shadow]

Shouldn't we move this discussion to the middle brother topic?

[DCUniverseAficionado]

Shouldn't we move this discussion to the middle brother topic?

From what point? At what point did this become unrelated to the AC hints that speak of Shukichi and Masumi?

[Uchiha Shadow]

Shouldn't we move this discussion to the middle brother topic?

From what point? At what point did this become unrelated to the AC hints that speak of Shukichi and Masumi?

Not that it's unrelated, but isn't it big enough that it should be in the topic for the middle brother discussion?