Jd- wrote:Kleene Onigiri wrote:I find Jd's conclusion strange, because he still insists on the day 2 killing thing. Jd is not someone who's ignoring clues/facts, and it is said that day 2 was a tie first, and then the voting was edited and someone arrested. There was no killing at all.
So don't put Jd off the suspect list, he's very suspicious to me for that D: For others too? Or is that just me? :x
The Day 2 thing was posted that way because I wasn't here for Day 2's reveal. As I posted long ago, I'm busy from 4:00~9:00'ish each day, but I decided to pop in a little early today because I may not be around until much later this time. Since I only saw you bring it up in that way, I wasn't sure if it was just speculation on your part. That's why I didn't get into that sort of meta-reasoning too much, since it relies on extraneous details that aren't results. I am comfortable striking that from the post if that is indeed what happened, and since I wasn't here at the time, I don't have a choice but to trust those that were.
Still doesn't explain your strange behaviour. It's fine to not be certain about the day 2 happenings, since I wasn't witnessing it either myself. And I did say it in my post
half speculating/half asking others if that really happened.
BUT Fujiwara did confirm it D: Even if you wouldn't be sure about his statement about day 2, you wouldn't just disregard it, but instead ask in the thread if others also could confirm it. That's what the Jd I know would do
Instead, you conveniently stayed silent about it :V
Jd- wrote:
I could be the Informant, but there's pretty much no way that I'm the Spy. If I were the Spy (I'm not), I would have apparently already put into play several evil plots to sacrifice people left and right. Given that the people who accused me even early on are still alive, I think you could write me off on that. (If I were the Spy, I'd downplay their accusations, shift the focus from myself onto someone else, and kill them as soon as possible while potentially doing a kill-vote to mask it) Basically: Everyone who has been talking and reasoning aloud (especially those that cast suspicion on me) would have been killed way, way earlier than now (Fujiwara would've died long ago, in that case). No matter the initial suspicion from an accuser dying, it would save me a lot of trouble later on. I'd much rather spend time misdirecting the public immediately after their death than deal with their suspicion while they're alive, personally.
I doubt that. If you would be the spy, you wouldn't kill of the ones that are suspecting you too fast. Since that would make you suspicious and you would try to take down the detective, and people that are suspecting you loud but not accusing you directly to get you voted aren't a real treat to you and are most likely not the detective. Since the detective wouldn't be too loud to accuse people without much proof, since that would just make him a big target.
(besides me last round as the detective, I'm always loud
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Jd- wrote:
What I would like to do today is set up an alliance, even if only temporarily. I would like to specifically invite the following people to join me in making a voting decision, if you're interested:
- Togop
- Fujiwara
- Yuri Iwamoto
- Jelitto
Now, everyone is more than welcome to join us, should the above decide to join in, and of course those in or out are both encouraged to nominate their own vote targets. The more that you act with this group of definitely-not-the-Spy players, the less suspicious you'll be, I'd wager. It's up to you, but I think we stand a good chance together if we can come to some natural conclusions.
I'm open to voting for Raiden today if Raiden does not speak up and give us a reason not to vote for him. It's true he's been on a lot of lists, but... that could mean he's the Detective as well. We should definitely tread lightly.
As a show of good faith, what I am also willing to do is put myself up to be voted later on, if things don't pan out and people really believe I'm the informant at that time. Essentially, we can arrange a safety net: I will put myself up to be voted out when it is only myself ("the Informant"), the Spy, and a safe amount of civilians that can then corner the Spy. Right now, there are plenty of people left, so voting out someone like me that has actively campaigned for several civilians is probably not in the best interests of the civilian population.
Some people said that figuring out the informant isn't as important as getting the spy. That's true.
But now imagine if Jd really is the informant. He created an alliance of people he trusts, and so far, those people are going for the one that Jd nominated... is this really safe? Considering it's a 5 man alliance together with Jd, it's most likely the majority of the votes. Since most people would also vote together with that alliance. And to counter that vote, the people who are left would need to vote for the same person, which is unlikely if they don't create their own alliance.
He even said to vote for him later on if things are going bad... a move often used in Mafia to gain trust :3 (and works quite well, I used it myself often too :x)
I can't say for certain that Jd is the informant, since I don't know. But he is suspicious. So at least other people from the alliance should decide on who to vote, and not just go with what Jd suggests. If you want to go with what Jd suggests, then it should also have a good reason and not just "well, nothing better to vote for".
You guys have to be wary of Jd. He's a evil mastermind! Whether as BO or town. I played Mafia with him :3
Also, notice how Jd is just suggesting people from the list that were posted in the thread... D:
@shinichi'sapprentice:
I doubt the spy would go for Jd after you said Jd's 100% not the detective... :x
Although I find your reasoning on why Jd isn't the detective strange... or nonexistant XD
And yeah, in Mafia there are more PMing than open talking in the forum.
*hugs*
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Although, it's not impossible that he could be the spy again, I think it makes Raiden being the spy more unlikely.
