I liked some of the time travel stuff in series fnarg because you could actually piece it together (for example, the scene where the Doctor apparently returns to Amy to talk to her in the angels two parter has him wearing a different watch and suit which quite a few people picked up on) but the River stuff was kinda obvious (though I'm taking this from the perspective of someone who glanced in on several discussion threads during the weeks between episodes which probably affects things) and I'm not entirely sure if the Clara thing had enough solid hints to allow it to be properly figured out (if we're talking about the same reveal here). I feel like it wasn't fair play, I guess?mangaluva wrote:None of it's quite as good as the RTD era, in my opinion. The reveals about both River and Clara both kinda piss me off.GinRei wrote:Been marathoning the Matt Smith series. Finished series 5, on disc 4 of series 6. Just got to the reveal of River Song, and holy crap. The hype! The hyping hype!
Still, the idea of bringing in River with Ten's era and continuing onto Eleven was pretty neat and Moffat's episodes within the RTD era were some of my favourite.
Imo, the thing with RTD vs Moffat is that RTD went for the human drama and added in deus ex machina in order to accommodate that; Moffat goes for Rule of Cool at the expense of characterisation and occasionally, plot. Also, he's more hands off in terms of editing other's scripts (which can easily be a good or bad thing). The way RTD edited other scripts the episodes were more regular and the same tone (including I would guess, making sure characters fit better) cutting down on the differences between different writers (I think I remember either in an interview or something that apparently Moffat was one of the few who had their scripts left relatively untouched but the rest could have theirs changed about quite a bit). With Moffat individual writers have their original tone preserved, but as it seems Moffat doesn't give much instruction in terms of characters (so they didn't really know much about Clara's personality) that can lead to the characterisation being slightly contradictory and leaving in some things episodes would be better without. Both of them have their flaws and their good sides, but I dislike saying that overall one is better than the other because the fandom is so split over it and makes it into a war at times.
EDIT: I will say this though, if there were two people with slightly different views in charge, instead of just one at any one time I think that quite a few of the flaws could be balanced out.
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