Mafia 50: Ophira High's Elimination Process (BO Wins!)

[Yurikochan]

Can I ask how exactly she seemed suspicious? PM me if you don't want to say in the thread .

I guess it was mostly because of the Day 1 lynch... I didn't expect this to happen though.

Most people vote randomly on D1. I don't get how that's suspicious tbh.

Probability. Two votes for the same person is unlikely. Well, for me.

And it's exactly because of that that two BO won't vote for the same person. Besides, for what you're saying to work both Jecka and Breva would have to have been BO (though Jecka said that Gin was in which increases Townness a bit in my eyes) or Breva somehow persuaded a Townie (Jecka) to vote along with her which is also unlikely (though possible as shown by today's lynch ). Breva seems more of a lurker to me anyway, but eh, I'd literally only started allying her near the end of the phase when she died :/.

Generally, when I see two people vote the same, chances are high that the BO spread their votes, and one got lucky enough to catch a townie voting for the same person. Not saying that Jecka is BO because, as you said, announcing Gin is a town move. Yes, two town can end up random voting together, but the chances were greater that it would be a BO/town vote.

But that's just my thoughts, since I don't get feelings and just voted the same person from D1.

And yet it was more likely to be BO/Town and not Town/Town despite there being a larger number of Town players... why, again?
Eh, most likely this *was* a load of Townies making a mistake, but it doesn't stop me being annoyed that so many of you went off a 'hunch' (rule 24 of Mafia: only copdar, Gindar and Yuriko's hunches are accurate nearly all the time ). Btw, I find it unlikely there'll be more than one BO player within those that voted Breva, but I guess it's possible there's more/less...

If a game annoys you this much, you shouldn't play it.

I took it as random votes too. And yes, someone either me or the person I voted with have a hunch on you. And I hope not too many trust you, because honestly you're acting very suspicious. There's something else I prefer NOT to say cause I don't say things in channels or threads, cause it tends to cause trouble for players.

But this is just me so I'll shut up before I become the "bad" guy again.

Just a message: be wary of Stop, remember Anokata can be anyone and there's Vermy too. And I'm sure one is definitely in from my hunches.

[miyano_shiho]

Well, maybe it's just me thinking probability-wise, but there are a lot of other things besides probability.

And yeah, Vermouth is in the game. I also heard Akemi isn't.

[Yurikochan]

Well, maybe it's just me thinking probability-wise, but there are a lot of other things besides probability.

And yeah, Vermouth is in the game. I also heard Akemi isn't.

It's better to not announce steals especially now. :/

[Stopwatch]

Can I ask how exactly she seemed suspicious? PM me if you don't want to say in the thread .

I guess it was mostly because of the Day 1 lynch... I didn't expect this to happen though.

Most people vote randomly on D1. I don't get how that's suspicious tbh.

Probability. Two votes for the same person is unlikely. Well, for me.

And it's exactly because of that that two BO won't vote for the same person. Besides, for what you're saying to work both Jecka and Breva would have to have been BO (though Jecka said that Gin was in which increases Townness a bit in my eyes) or Breva somehow persuaded a Townie (Jecka) to vote along with her which is also unlikely (though possible as shown by today's lynch ). Breva seems more of a lurker to me anyway, but eh, I'd literally only started allying her near the end of the phase when she died :/.

Generally, when I see two people vote the same, chances are high that the BO spread their votes, and one got lucky enough to catch a townie voting for the same person. Not saying that Jecka is BO because, as you said, announcing Gin is a town move. Yes, two town can end up random voting together, but the chances were greater that it would be a BO/town vote.

But that's just my thoughts, since I don't get feelings and just voted the same person from D1.

And yet it was more likely to be BO/Town and not Town/Town despite there being a larger number of Town players... why, again?
Eh, most likely this *was* a load of Townies making a mistake, but it doesn't stop me being annoyed that so many of you went off a 'hunch' (rule 24 of Mafia: only copdar, Gindar and Yuriko's hunches are accurate nearly all the time ). Btw, I find it unlikely there'll be more than one BO player within those that voted Breva, but I guess it's possible there's more/less...

If a game annoys you this much, you shouldn't play it.

I took it as random votes too. And yes, someone either me or the person I voted with have a hunch on you. And I hope not too many trust you, because honestly you're acting very suspicious. There's something else I prefer NOT to say cause I don't say things in channels or threads, cause it tends to cause trouble for players.

But this is just me so I'll shut up before I become the "bad" guy again.

Just a message: be wary of Stop, remember Anokata can be anyone and there's Vermy too. And I'm sure one is definitely in from my hunches.

It was one specific thing I mentioned I was annoyed about. Did I ever say I was annoyed at the entire game? Though tbh I do spend some time wondering why I even play anymore.
Can you tell me how I'm acting suspiciously? I don't mind if it's in the thread or whatever. For the thing that could cause trouble for people, PM me about it if you want to.
"Bad guy"? O.o
Correction: Be wary of *everyone* (hopefully...)

[Aokochan]

O_o What has this thread become? Did it all start because I said breva seemed suspicious? It's the first time I play, so I made that mistake, and I'm sorry But please stop saying things that can be misinterpreted or offend anyone (I'm not defending or blaming anyone, I'm talking to everyone in general)

[Iwamoto Yuri]

it's how it goes Aokochan

but you are right, minna, if you can't be nice please don't go here.
and stop is right, trust nobody!

btw, everybody who's nice will get some puccho

[Yurikochan]

it's how it goes Aokochan

but you are right, minna, if you can't be nice please don't go here.
and stop is right, trust nobody!

btw, everybody who's nice will get some puccho

It's all worked out if it was anything at all.

I wasn't trying to be mean, so I apologize again.

Aoko, you're doing really good for your first time. I just hope you are having fun.

[aly_angelflight]

btw, everybody who's nice will get some puccho

Not like I need to be bribed with candy to be nice... ^^;

[pofa]

btw, everybody who's nice will get some puccho

Not like I need to be bribed with candy to be nice... ^^;

I dunno, I want some candy...
[me=pofa]spontaneously hugs aly[/me]

[Kleene Onigiri]

Well, maybe it's just me thinking probability-wise, but there are a lot of other things besides probability.

And yeah, Vermouth is in the game. I also heard Akemi isn't.

It's better to not announce steals especially now. :/

I don't think it matters much anymore now, if you announce it or not.
The BO will know if they have Akemi. And steals were already announced anyway. So if the BO has SI, they can check stuff out anyway. If they go for random investigating, they will do that too now anyway I guess.

But there is a good aspect for the town when all stealings will be announced now. That is if Calvados is in the game and uses steal on someone, that way we would get 2x steal in a night and could try to find the BO.

[Yurikochan]

Well, maybe it's just me thinking probability-wise, but there are a lot of other things besides probability.

And yeah, Vermouth is in the game. I also heard Akemi isn't.

It's better to not announce steals especially now. :/

I don't think it matters much anymore now, if you announce it or not.
The BO will know if they have Akemi. And steals were already announced anyway. So if the BO has SI, they can check stuff out anyway. If they go for random investigating, they will do that too now anyway I guess.

But there is a good aspect for the town when all stealings will be announced now. That is if Calvados is in the game and uses steal on someone, that way we would get 2x steal in a night and could try to find the BO.

That's true too, I guess.

And maybe they will lose poisons if its really KID, so announcing maybe very good. And KID can always go to jail and help town that way. ^^

[pofa]

Well, maybe it's just me thinking probability-wise, but there are a lot of other things besides probability.

And yeah, Vermouth is in the game. I also heard Akemi isn't.

It's better to not announce steals especially now. :/

I don't think it matters much anymore now, if you announce it or not.
The BO will know if they have Akemi. And steals were already announced anyway. So if the BO has SI, they can check stuff out anyway. If they go for random investigating, they will do that too now anyway I guess.

But there is a good aspect for the town when all stealings will be announced now. That is if Calvados is in the game and uses steal on someone, that way we would get 2x steal in a night and could try to find the BO.

But also remember that every time a Kid steal is announced, it lets the BO narrow down who Kid is. :/

Maybe there's an upside I'm not seeing, but I think I agree with Yuriko that it might be better to keep quiet about them unless we have reason to think there really were 2 steals in one night.

[Aokochan]

it's how it goes Aokochan

but you are right, minna, if you can't be nice please don't go here.
and stop is right, trust nobody!

btw, everybody who's nice will get some puccho

It's all worked out if it was anything at all.

I wasn't trying to be mean, so I apologize again.

Aoko, you're doing really good for your first time. I just hope you are having fun.

[me=Aokochan]hugs Yuri and Yuriko[/me] Yes I'm having fun!

I don't think it matters much anymore now, if you announce it or not.
The BO will know if they have Akemi. And steals were already announced anyway. So if the BO has SI, they can check stuff out anyway. If they go for random investigating, they will do that too now anyway I guess.

But there is a good aspect for the town when all stealings will be announced now. That is if Calvados is in the game and uses steal on someone, that way we would get 2x steal in a night and could try to find the BO.

What's SI?
Also, could someone explain me the last sentence? How would we get 2x steal?

[Kleene Onigiri]

@Aoko:
SI is Special Investigate. It let's you investigate past actions. Like "Kleene killed Akonyl Night 1". But you can't use Special investigate for the current phase (that's just normal investigate that can be used for)

You can have 2x steal with Calvados (if he's in the game)

According to info, there were some stealings, and it was also said that Akemi is not in the game. So the only other role that has steal "in a normal way" is KID.
But Calvados has an ability named "backup". With that, he can use an action from a BO role that is not in the game. And since Akemi isn't supposed to be in the game, he could use steal 1x in the game.


@pofa: well, it's not like people could lie and pretend to have been stolen from XD

[Yurikochan]

@Aoko:
SI is Special Investigate. It let's you investigate past actions. Like "Kleene killed Akonyl Night 1". But you can't use Special investigate for the current phase (that's just normal investigate that can be used for)

You can have 2x steal with Calvados (if he's in the game)

According to info, there were some stealings, and it was also said that Akemi is not in the game. So the only other role that has steal "in a normal way" is KID.
But Calvados has an ability named "backup". With that, he can use an action from a BO role that is not in the game. And since Akemi isn't supposed to be in the game, he could use steal 1x in the game.


@pofa: well, it's not like people could lie and pretend to have been stolen from XD

Technically the BO could. Cause unless its SOed. :x