Mafia Round 47: Mafia Idol (Night 2)

[Kleene Onigiri]

Shut up Yuriko, Stop didn't hurt you.

If something hurt Yuriko, it did hurt her, even if you would have reacted differently and also if Stop didn't mean to.

I really hope you can clear things up :/

I've said that I don't know what it was and apologised several times about hurting her, but there's not much I can do without knowing what it was I said that hurt her .

I've told you four times what hurt me, the fact you don't understand or just don't listen or care isn't worth even accepting your apology. Cause you just do things to get what you want anyways. I don't care if you think I'm a loser and causing drama, I'm just done.

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AHAHAHAHAHA!
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sorry :x

[Kaito Lady]

I don't know why but I can't stop to feel sorry for stoppy....I mean, according to me she did everything well!

[Iwamoto Yuri]

^^^^^^^^
exactly

[Yurikochan]

If it's the allying, I'm sorry, it's not going to happen again. If it's something else, I'm probably sorry too...

It wasn't the allying. :/

[PT]

Stop, if you enjoy mafia, don't stop playing because of this. You're a good mafia player! Nobody's gonna listen to Yuriko and start killing you N1/lynching you D1 all the time.

*hugs Stoppy*

And like I've said a thousand times already, Yuriko being upset is Yuriko's own fault, nobody else's.

[Kaito Lady]

Stop, if you enjoy mafia, don't stop playing because of this. You're a good mafia player! Nobody's gonna listen to Yuriko and start killing you N1/lynching you D1 all the time.

*hugs Stoppy*

And like I've said a thousand times already, Yuriko being upset is Yuriko's own fault, nobody else's.

^
*wholeheartly agrees with PT*

[Conia]

Shut up Yuriko, Stop didn't hurt you.

She did, bringing up not pleasant memories, even if intentional or not, she did.

stop got her info fairly through allying and playing smart, not through cheating.

Stoppy has been getting info out of players because of insisnting to the point of annoying the player and they just reveal info to catch a break. This has happened to many.

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sorry :x

At least mean it...

Stop, if you enjoy mafia, don't stop playing because of this. You're a good mafia player! Nobody's gonna listen to Yuriko and start killing you N1/lynching you D1 all the time.

*hugs Stoppy*

And like I've said a thousand times already, Yuriko being upset is Yuriko's own fault, nobody else's.

Against my better judgement, I take that you don't know the cause of the problem...

[PT]

Against my better judgement, I take that you don't know the cause of the problem...

I saw a good portion of the conversation between Yuriko and Stop the other day, and listened to Yuriko rant about it.

Pretty sure I know what happened.

And hey, maybe instead of blindly defending someone who's causing trouble, maybe you should look at the situation as a whole.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

stop got her info fairly through allying and playing smart, not through cheating.

Stoppy has been getting info out of players because of insisnting to the point of annoying the player and they just reveal info to catch a break. This has happened to many.

yeah, but that's stoppy... If Yuriko didn't want to ally with her she should have just said so. I did so before and Stoppy actually CAN listen.
And stoppy did admit going to far sometimes, but she is 15, Yuriko is an adult...

Also, people, I get we all want to poke in our noses and such, but this is something between Yuriko and stop, so it's something they should talk about...
I'm already meddling with it too much... But it seems no one is doing this so...

@Yuriko, I get it you were hurt, but pointing at stoppy and saying you won't say what she did wrong won't help either of you. I saw your conversation too, and I see why she doesn't understand. Please don't get mad at her for not getting it.

@Stop, don't quit because of this, this stupid fight isn't worth it...

@the rest Conia, I get you like your wife, but if she gets this worked up over a game it might be better for her to stop for a while. And siding with her won't help any of this, it'll just make things worse. Same goes for you Kleene and PT, telling Yuriko she's being stupid won't make things better..

now, apparently people need help to talk things out... Now, Yuriko, please tell me... or rather us, exactly what stop said and did to upset you... and people who disagree... PLEASE NO COMMENT!!!

after that I'd like to hear Stop's side of the story. Please stay calm too, I'm trying to help getting things solved here.

[Conia]

Against my better judgement, I take that you don't know the cause of the problem...

I saw a good portion of the conversation between Yuriko and Stop the other day, and listened to Yuriko rant about it.

Pretty sure I know what happened.

And hey, maybe instead of blindly defending someone who's causing trouble, maybe you should look at the situation as a whole.

Good portion != Everything, which applies to this case. Mainly, what turned it painful. If I'd be reminding you of Flixy in Round 44, that feeling wouldn't be too far away from what Yuriko felt.

I'll try it to be not too troublesome:

stop got her info fairly through allying and playing smart, not through cheating.

Stoppy has been getting info out of players because of insisnting to the point of annoying the player and they just reveal info to catch a break. This has happened to many.

yeah, but that's stoppy... If Yuriko didn't want to ally with her she should have just said so.

She said it so and ignored her, but Stoppy kept insisting. When Yuriko confirmed Stop's BOness, she went all out fishing for info until it turned painful plus Stop asking publicly on how to ignore someone. There isn't much fairness there, even if it already exceeded the game.

@the rest Conia, I get you like your wife, but if she gets this worked up over a game it might be better for her to stop for a while. And siding with her won't help any of this, it'll just make things worse. Same goes for you Kleene and PT, telling Yuriko she's being stupid won't make things better..

If it gets as unfair as Everyone vs Yuriko, I'll make it Everyone vs YuriCon. I don't like this situation at all and wish everyone can get along, but if I have to stand up I will stand up.

[PT]

Good portion != Everything, which applies to this case. Mainly, what turned it painful. If I'd be reminding you of Flixy in Round 44, that feeling wouldn't be too far away from what Yuriko felt.

What happened with Flixy was an annoyance, not something that I was destroyed over. So if you're comparing it to that, then it's pretty minor, imo.

I stand by what I said before.

And if Yuriko can't handle playing a game - and other people playing a game as it's meant to be played - without resorting to tantrums and wishing horrible things on people, then she doesn't need to be playing in the first place.

[Iwamoto Yuri]

I don't get it either, but this is just silly. If things are getting mean like this, I'm pulling the line.
We've just had enough hateful comments from people.

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^ This is the line

from here on please no comment on who is right or wrong, we should end this fight now before things get ridiculous. Yuriko and stop need to talk this out not the people who pick sides and fight for them.

so again please stop commenting on it, I'm just seriously getting angry from this mess.

[Yurikochan]

stop got her info fairly through allying and playing smart, not through cheating.

Stoppy has been getting info out of players because of insisnting to the point of annoying the player and they just reveal info to catch a break. This has happened to many.

yeah, but that's stoppy... If Yuriko didn't want to ally with her she should have just said so. I did so before and Stoppy actually CAN listen.
And stoppy did admit going to far sometimes, but she is 15, Yuriko is an adult...

Also, people, I get we all want to poke in our noses and such, but this is something between Yuriko and stop, so it's something they should talk about...
I'm already meddling with it too much... But it seems no one is doing this so...

@Yuriko, I get it you were hurt, but pointing at stoppy and saying you won't say what she did wrong won't help either of you. I saw your conversation too, and I see why she doesn't understand. Please don't get mad at her for not getting it.

@Stop, don't quit because of this, this stupid fight isn't worth it...

@the rest Conia, I get you like your wife, but if she gets this worked up over a game it might be better for her to stop for a while. And siding with her won't help any of this, it'll just make things worse. Same goes for you Kleene and PT, telling Yuriko she's being stupid won't make things better..

now, apparently people need help to talk things out... Now, Yuriko, please tell me... or rather us, exactly what stop said and did to upset you... and people who disagree... PLEASE NO COMMENT!!!

after that I'd like to hear Stop's side of the story. Please stay calm too, I'm trying to help getting things solved here.

I did say I didn't want to ally. Every time she freaking PMed me until Conia, my ally cause I told him my role night 1 cause I wanted to die, started talking to her, and I knew he'd be killed. so yeah I thought helping would be fine since I was gonna die anyways, because you know horrible role and such. ( Sorry Kleene, it is, ask Misaki ) So I went to far, like I said she can't take her own medicine, she should have known she couldn't persuade me and left me and my nonsense alone. But she kept coming back, I never restarted talking to her, but she pmmed me anyways and kept up not stopping. You know what the harping made me enjoy the game, but I stopped and she kept up. Yeah, she's 15, but telling a channel you want to ignore someone is damn rude, especially when they are only answering cause you are talking.

Yuri: I'm not afraid to bring it out, and I know people won't understand at all when it's out, and that it's my problem, but if people want to see, they can, plus someone should ask Stop how much I cared and talked to her about that game, but I guess that doesn't matter anyways.

I've told stop five times what actually hurt me, and she doesn't even care, she's apologizing for something she doesn't even remember the past night, which she has logs for. .

[Loudlol]

Yuri, It shouldn't have to be your place to try and mediate between the said parties.  

Everyone, you're all adults and should know the boundaries of your actions and speech.  That being said,  it never hurts  to put out a reminder.   You're all here to play a game and have fun, simple as that.  A silly little altercation such as this is not something that should potentially jeopardize any friendships or bonds that have been made here.  

The concerned parties should both just agree to disagree about the issue, shake each others hands, give each other a hug, and like true adults let bygones be bygones.     Also, try to take the time to reflect on the trouble you have caused others by unfairly forcing the people you consider friends to "Choose a side" between you.

[PT]

Unfortunately, it's about a lot more than just a simple misunderstanding, and this is something that has been building for months, and just now exploded.