Death Note personality quiz

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INTP - L
Jd- wrote: It's all part of the horoscope conundrum, really. If you think about it, there are only two factors into each line of a personality test--the kicker being they're all positive traits. No one is going to debate whether they're creative, funny, intelligent, or contemplative, but if personality tests were to delve so deep as to evaluate one's less desirable traits, I'm sure we'd see a lot more peeps questioning their results. Even when they do attempt to throw in "negative" traits, they're really positive in essence (such as, you're "too caring for your own good," etc).
It's not like the horoscope, really. For one, this test is based on the MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) that was established by Jung after working as a psychiatrist for years. I'm quite a fan of it. Only one of the 16 types covered by it will fit you. This test is probably not that accurate of a pointer to to which you belong, but neither is any other one; the only 'sure' way to establish your type is to read the profiles and find which one fits you best (a good site is typelogic). The test isn't THAT bad, though (basic MBTI tests aren't hard to write), but your type shouldn't be too off (common big misses are usually INFJ -> xNTP and F males testing as T). Of course, the Forer effect is in action, but I can promise you one of the 16 types will fit so perfectly you'll be wondering whether someone did a case study in you XD and if go you into the explanations behind the system, the deeper you go, the more sense it makes. Bad traits are covered too: INTP, for example, are lazy, unmotivated, over-analytical slobs. ENFP aren't 'too nice for their own good', they're the type of people who'll lend their car to perfect strangers, then whine to their huge circle of friends (over a round of beer they're paying for) that it was stolen.

I think, from the DC cast, that Shinichi and Akai are INFJ, Heiji and Kogoro ESTP, Kid ENTP, Hakuba ESTJ, Ran INFP, Sonoko ESFP, Ai INTJ or ESTJ, Akako INTJ.

Edit: The only one I can possibly imagine as INTP in the cast is Kansuke, but - dunno.
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Kiraly wrote: It's not like the horoscope, really. For one, this test is based on the MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) that was established by Jung after working as a psychiatrist for years. I'm quite a fan of it. Only one of the 16 types covered by it will fit you. This test is probably not that accurate of a pointer to to which you belong, but neither is any other one; the only 'sure' way to establish your type is to read the profiles and find which one fits you best (a good site is typelogic). The test isn't THAT bad, though (basic MBTI tests aren't hard to write), but your type shouldn't be too off (common big misses are usually INFJ -> xNTP and F males testing as T). Of course, the Forer effect is in action, but I can promise you one of the 16 types will fit so perfectly you'll be wondering whether someone did a case study in you XD and if go you into the explanations behind the system, the deeper you go, the more sense it makes. Bad traits are covered too: INTP, for example, are lazy, unmotivated, over-analytical slobs. ENFP aren't 'too nice for their own good', they're the type of people who'll lend their car to perfect strangers, then whine to their huge circle of friends (over a round of beer they're paying for) that it was stolen.
I wasn't referring to the nature of the test resembling horoscopes but rather the way in which they are taken. There's some sort of truth in every personality test (and the MBTI is the most valid, given the layering structure), but people will fixate themselves on compliments as an (unintentional) means of skewing the effectiveness of their results. Some things are considered equal in most circles, such the top level of introversion and extraversion. But, when you get into whether someone is creative or not, nearly everyone will say they are, of course, creative.

One issue is designing a test that will disguise questions as to leading to one result or another. If a subject were to be aware the effects that one question would have on the results and considered that result undesirable, they are likely to avoid going that route. As such, while the test can be infallible, it requires complete honesty. Personal bias when confirming results will always come into play, and I am still of the opinion that people will agree with a positive assessment of themselves so long as at least the top level is correct.

For example: I took an Abnormal Psychology course as a freshman where our teacher asked us if we would participate in taking an MBTI-based personality assessment on the very first day. Everyone consented, and off we went. He gave us the results the next class period, verbally, and gave some of the common, amusing statistics about compatibility and such. Nearly everyone, including myself, agreed that it was a fair assessment of us. Everyone had varying types and such. Then, during the last week of class, he asked us to take another one of similar design. He yet again handed out the results, and, yet again, nearly everyone, including myself, agreed that it was a fair assessment of us. It was only then that he revealed he had taken our results from the beginning, changed them from the top-level down, and let us evaluate them. Despite it being completely different, they were still complimentary and due to that, no one minded enough to say, "Hey, wait, I'm not perceptive!" (the actual results had changed from the first part of the semester as well, but not in an overwhelming manner).

As for it covering bad traits, again I consider some of those to be good traits. Many scientists are considered INTPs, which is a field (obviously) associated with intelligence. Avoiding social situations or keeping to themselves to pursue their own lines of thoughts and testing theoretical pursuits on their own is positive for some, so it's not really something we can consider "bad." And again, if someone were to tell me I had the personality type of a scientist, I can't say I'd have to hang them high for it.

So really, while I don't disagree with you on the idea behind the MBTI or any other remotely legitimate personality test, I do think that--while it may be a fair gauge of getting a general outlook--considering it anything more than that can lead particularly susceptible people into a false state of misplaced belief (a problem much larger with astrology than anything else, of course, but we do know all the good women's magazines do for certain ladies). There's another subject that goes right into this, but the forums of a fansubbing group are not the right place to discuss it, methinks. :P

In short: Personality tests by nature bear a concomitant burden with the natural curiosity of humans to define themselves, and if it's in a wholly positive manner, that goes doubly so.


P.S.  I also resent you calling my ENFP mother an alcoholic.
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Yes, there's that, because of the obvious inherent fallacy of testing for personality type through questions. Answers change, opinions of yourself change and people like to overestimate themselves; the thing is that these profiles are very specific - if you show someone the profile of a type that is not theirs the reaction will generally be somewhere from '...ummm, I'm not sure' to 'this isn't quite right, but I like it', not 'yes, exactly!'. INTP is a type that is suited for complex systems, but not necessarily the hard sciences - that's the INTJ territory.

A way to look at it is through fictional characters. Being fictional, more than one type might fit them - Shinichi acts like a combination btw INFJ and ENTP depending on how sensitive/observant the plot wants him to be. But would another profile fit? And why did I pick those two?

...I kept this short, but thank you for the long reply. You're right, this  isn't the place.
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Kiraly wrote: A way to look at it is through fictional characters. Being fictional, more than one type might fit them - Shinichi acts like a combination btw INFJ and ENTP depending on how sensitive/observant the plot wants him to be. But would another profile fit? And why did I pick those two?
It also helps that they're (literally!) two-dimensional, amirite!?

In all seriousness, I'd guess you picked INFJ & ENTP due to how well they fit the idea of a conscientious, rational person with an eye for detail and emotion. All fundamentals for a detective, I'd imagine. I'm sure the Haibara fans want to know every possible combination of her personality types, too. After all, they must know if they're compatible.
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These letters fit real people better than characters! Srsly! In fact, it's a tad hard to type characters because they don't display the usual patterns the types have because of such details as unconscious or underdeveloped functions.

L is INTP (and, for some reason, he's a textbook example of overdeveloped T). Holmes sounds pretty INTJ from the articles I've read. ENTP is the trickster archetype, basically (Xellos, Kid, etc). INFJ... well, they're the most hard to pin down (and rare), and behaviour-wise the most similar to the ENTP, but unlike ENTP they don't enjoy causing or being in the middle of chaos. (NiFeTiSe function order vs NeTiFeSi).

I picked it for Shinichi because INFJ is a fairly sensitive type, which takes in what is compares it against a potential pattern, spitting something along the lines of 'then the final puzzle piece is...' and various reasoning flash of inspiration style out - on the other hand, the story sometimes has him insensitive and going through his reasoning by comparing possible results against pre-established patterns. Now that I'm writing this, I think I don't remember seeing him ENTP-style all that often...

I pinned Detectives Heiji and Saguru as ESTP and ESTJ respectively XD so...

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I never thought I'd learn this much because of an internet personality quiz in an off topic anime and manga section of a fansub forum...  :P

I got curious so I researched those meanings... I got most of them but I still don't get the difference between Judgment (xxxJ) and Perception (xxxP)

And what does NiFeTiSe and NeTiFeSi mean?
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INTP

You scored 80% introversion, 57% intuition, 86% thinking, and 36% judging!


YOUR RESULTS
Stats: Approximately 4% of population.
DN characters with this type: L.
In a nutshell: "A love of problem-solving."


Desciption: Logical, original, creative thinkers. Can become very excited about theories and ideas. Exceptionally capable and driven to turn theories into clear understandings. Highly value knowledge, competence and logic. Quiet and reserved, hard to get to know well. Individualistic, having no interest in leading or following others.
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hakkaino7 wrote: I never thought I'd learn this much because of an internet personality quiz in an off topic anime and manga section of a fansub forum...  :P

I got curious so I researched those meanings... I got most of them but I still don't get the difference between Judgment (xxxJ) and Perception (xxxP)

And what does NiFeTiSe and NeTiFeSi mean?
NiFeTiSe is the functional breakdown - I refer you to http://typelogic.com/faq.html . It also explains the P/J, which either shows whether you're a chaotic or an organised person, or which function you extravert, depending on which on how deep you're typing.

Looking at the functional breakdown is more accurate than just taking the letters, but it's usually easier to decide on a type letter for letter and afterwards check what that implies.

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-_- Me result is so...


INFJ

You scored 80% introversion, 57% intuition, 50% thinking, and 79% judging!

Stats: Approximately 4% of population.
DN characters with this type: Watari.
In a nutshell: "An inspiration to others."


Description: Quietly forceful, original, and sensitive. Tend to stick to things until they are done. Extremely intuitive about people, and concerned for their feelings. Well-developed value systems which they strictly adhere to. Well-respected for their perseverance in doing the right thing. Likely to be individualistic, rather than leading or following.
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Kiraly wrote:
hakkaino7 wrote: I never thought I'd learn this much because of an internet personality quiz in an off topic anime and manga section of a fansub forum...  :P

I got curious so I researched those meanings... I got most of them but I still don't get the difference between Judgment (xxxJ) and Perception (xxxP)

And what does NiFeTiSe and NeTiFeSi mean?
NiFeTiSe is the functional breakdown - I refer you to http://typelogic.com/faq.html . It also explains the P/J, which either shows whether you're a chaotic or an organised person, or which function you extravert, depending on which on how deep you're typing.

Looking at the functional breakdown is more accurate than just taking the letters, but it's usually easier to decide on a type letter for letter and afterwards check what that implies.

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yay! ^^

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I'm sooo like that.
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