Ai + Conan

[Kor]

Just to point out that Mamoru - Usagi had THEIR child from the future visit them. It a good thing that so far we do not have a child of Shinichi - Ran coming from the future. That might make this discussion awkward.

I'm sure that you meant to say Shinichi and Shiho's secret lovechild from the future.

Or possibly even future Conan and future Haibara's secret lovechild from even further into the future.

This would make a real difference. If a child of Shinichi and Ran came, then it wouldn't matter because Shinichi already wants to propose (or whatever) to Ran. If a child of his and Shiho/Haibara would come, then Shinichi will be in a deep conflict.

Last thing on Mamoru - Usagi - Seiya, Seiya didn't know Usagi and Mamoru had a child, and even though he/she knew how much Usagi loved Mamoru, he/she still gave it a try.
Haibara should have more courage regarding this issue.

[mangaluva]

It's obvious that Ai has a thing for Conan, but since she habitually keeps her emotions so suppressed anyway she's very subtle about it. But the evidence is obvious, in the way she acts around him and in how she acted around Ran in the beginning.
The best quote it the one about the dolphins;  although Conan's too thick to notice it here, she's referring to Ran as a rival, one that she feels that she has no hope of competing with.

I think I said it before:

I can't stand reading "Ai x Conan is FACT" when it is merely an one-sided view on some scenes.

It might be "obvious" to you, but only because you believe in that pairing.
This is what we talked about the past 2 or 3 pages: You can believe in Haibara "having a thing for Conan" all you want - but remember it is a fandom and that you were evaluating the "evidence" in a biased way. Someone who does not believe in that pairing (like me) will come to a different conclusion.
It is not "obivious". It's a matter of personal preference, unless there is really a solid proof.
Same with her relationship with Ran: You think she is envious of Ran and thinks of her as a rival. I think she reminds her too much of her sister, so having her around reminds her of her painful loss.

You misunderstand. I don't believe in it as a pairing because there are no feelings on Conan's side. I believe that Ai has feelings for Conan and that they way she acts around him and Ran bears this out. Because she's such an enigmatic character anyway you can't possibly expect her to come right out and say it. You're misunderstanding her character to expect that.

[James Rye]

Didn´t read about Sailor moon but a future child of Shinichi and Shiho who visit the time when both were shrunk would be funny.

Never thought much about that humming. You think she did it because Conan couldn't confess to Ran and she still has him on his side? There are so many other possebilities

1) She is happy the whole thing is over.
2) She is glad they managed to conceal the truth about Conans identity
3) Glad Shinichi didn't appear in a newspaper/his reappearance was kept a secret.
4) Happy that she can finally be herself again.
5) Glad not wear a Conan-disguise anymore and having to stay with Mori.
6) Looking forwards to go swimming with her friends
7) Looking forwards toward a day with low risk to encounter a body.
8) She had curry for lunch XDDDDDD
9) Glad Conan is going home and will stop nagging about another temporary antidote
10) ... don't know. But there are a lot of reasons to be happy


Well... enough for today, getting really tiered too. ^_^'
Soon we reach the big 100 pages with this thread.

Ohh yeah, one final thing:

Yeah, but it happend shortly after Conan was so frustrated that he didn´t tell Ran everything. If it would be the other points you talked about she would have already hummed at the restaurant when she went back into Agasa´s car. But she didn´t, she was dead serious until this page and she also ahd the *.....* the *hidden mind speaking* speech bubble, so it should be linked to what Conan said and after that i repeat myself again, she started to humm happily.^g^

Why are you asking about if they are fans of AiCon now? Ok, maybe you still can't make the difference: I said that people agree that Ai has feelings for Conan and that it's obvious, NOT that all people agree that AiCon is a love couple or that they're fans of AiCon.

I also thinks she has feelings for him, hidden and not oblivious like for teh other girls but you can see it sometimes. Oh yeah, i´m a Aicon fan.

Yes, I'm still awake and it's 3:10!! Well, I'll go to sleep after I finish this post. XD
So how were the cookies? I'm also making strawberry flavored ones for tomorrow, just in case!
And damn pages, why won't they upload? >_> AiCON[/spoiler]

The cookies were yummy, so yummy i forgot to cry. XD
OMG strawberry! If it would be cherry, it would be totally Ai (S(c)herry ) cookies!!! Thank you!
They should upload now,since i loaded them down at my photobucket account, so it should be alright now. And the surpise was AWESOME!!!!!
I almost lost my eyeballs and my jaw. XDDD
That´s a really cool surprise! *thumps up*

A cookies.. no, A Cake !

Here you go, for the longest posted message ever in Ai+Conan thread !

Haven't seen someone put enough energy to write those long argument nowadays..

*eats cake*
I´m so getting fat and i´m not sorry about it (it´s only virtuell after all XD)~~~
Yeah, the time with the longlonglong posts are over, this is the era of the short posts with the few rebells who posts long posts... 8)

You misunderstand. I don't believe in it as a pairing because there are no feelings on Conan's side. I believe that Ai has feelings for Conan and that they way she acts around him and Ran bears this out. Because she's such an enigmatic character anyway you can't possibly expect her to come right out and say it. You're misunderstanding her character to expect that.

I wouldn´t mind if she admitt it in her mind (i would start dancing in my room XP), i mean just for confirming and to stop all this *Does she or does she not love him?* discussion.
And she wouldn´t say it out loud.

[Callid]

I think the discussion whether Ai loves Conan has come to an end. Masses of proofs and almost-proofs have been amassed and the final result is - a tie. Your result still depends completely on how you read the Ai-Conan moments and mimic and gesture of the characters.
At least until further proofs or want-to-be-proofs turn up.

Guess we are stuck here. Well... I am interested to see if you are right so please let me ask everyone reading this:
Are Aoyama's "hints of Ai's feelings for Conan" obvious?
Please write "Yes" or "No" and also if you are a fan of the "Ai x Conan" pairing or not.

Yes. (easy)
Uhm... (not easy at all^^)
It's true that I like this pairing, but it's not that I wouldn't like ShinRan...
The problem is that I fear the results of ConanxAi. If this pairing would really take place, I'm almost sure Ran would commit suicide (what I do not want to happen, after all). (T)he(i)r love is much to deep to give her any chance of getting over it if Shinichi betrays her. Ai wouldn't kill herself in case of ShinRan.
Therefore I have great problems to decide...
Argh, can't I vote for a polygamous option?

[AICHAN]

I think the discussion whether Ai loves Conan has come to an end. Masses of proofs and almost-proofs have been amassed and the final result is - a tie. Your result still depends completely on how you read the Ai-Conan moments and mimic and gesture of the characters.
At least until further proofs or want-to-be-proofs turn up.

Guess we are stuck here. Well... I am interested to see if you are right so please let me ask everyone reading this:
Are Aoyama's "hints of Ai's feelings for Conan" obvious?
Please write "Yes" or "No" and also if you are a fan of the "Ai x Conan" pairing or not.

Yes. (easy)
Uhm... (not easy at all^^)
It's true that I like this pairing, but it's not that I wouldn't like ShinRan...
The problem is that I fear the results of ConanxAi. If this pairing would really take place, I'm almost sure Ran would commit suicide (what I do not want to happen, after all). (T)he(i)r love is much to deep to give her any chance of getting over it if Shinichi betrays her. Ai wouldn't kill herself in case of ShinRan.
Therefore I have great problems to decide...
Argh, can't I vote for a polygamous option?

LOLXD polygamy?well i read a french fanfic with that option,and it was quite good but DC is more for young people,so i don't think it might happen... 

i have to admit that even if i love aicon,i would feel bad for Ran if shinichi choose Ai...
but i don't know why he has to make such a choice,i mean we can love two people but not in a same way... i don't mind if the end is Shinran,as long as  Shinichi stay close to Haibara,because i love their interactions....she could become her confident,a "soulmate"(which doesn't mean a romantic relationship)...
i prefer watching a funny strong and touching friendship rather than a lovey dovey relationship between two lovers...so i don't mind if they only stay close friend^^(even if i think their relationship is between friendship and love)
am i the only one who think like that?do you think if Shinichi choose Ran or Ai,he have to forget the other girl?

[Abs.]

See, the problem with Shinichi turning polygamist is this here:

"SHINJITSU WA ITSUMO HITOTSU SHIKA INAI!"

There's always only one truth.



btw I don't have that problem

[kirite]

In a contest between Ran and Shiho it's obvious Shinichi is going to choose

Spoiler:

Gosho.

[James Rye]

I think the discussion whether Ai loves Conan has come to an end. Masses of proofs and almost-proofs have been amassed and the final result is - a tie. Your result still depends completely on how you read the Ai-Conan moments and mimic and gesture of the characters.
At least until further proofs or want-to-be-proofs turn up.

It's true that I like this pairing, but it's not that I wouldn't like ShinRan...
The problem is that I fear the results of ConanxAi. If this pairing would really take place, I'm almost sure Ran would commit suicide (what I do not want to happen, after all). (T)he(i)r love is much to deep to give her any chance of getting over it if Shinichi betrays her. Ai wouldn't kill herself in case of ShinRan.
Therefore I have great problems to decide...
Argh, can't I vote for a polygamous option?

A tie is a win.
Nah-nah, Ran isn´t such a weak girl that she would commit suicide over a guy like Shinichi.^^
I bet if that wouldn´t happen before/after she makes the *real* confession, she would laugh and put a smile on her face to calm down Shinichi who would be worried abot her. Of cource at home or on the way at home she´ll cry, but she´s strong enough to live on and find a other happines. Same for Ai/Shiho. But they wouldn´t stop seeing each other, they know each other since kindergarten, they were and still are best friends.

To your *betrayal*, he can´t betray her cause he and she are still only best childhood friends, not confirmed lovers, but i bet that was alreaddy said a million times here. XD

As long as we don´t have a face-to-face speech and confession between Shinichi and Ran, they won´t get magically together. They aren´t married nor did they made a promise to marry each other and before he shrunk into a kid, their relationship wasn´t really loverboy and lovergirl. He only wants to confess to her since he knows he´s on safe ground with her cause she responds his feelings. Before her confession he was a dreamer who thought she would confess and he could play the cool detective boy. Well, his dream did come true-particular. XD

Ran on the other hand is the same as him, she dreams of living together with Shinichi and wants him to confess since it should be the male who do that. It also did come true-particular. XD
After Kazuha and Sonokos support she started to take a few steps forward, but nothing with real results, at least she tried, Shinichi didn´t do more then her in the same matter- trying but no real results.

But you´re right Ai wouldn´t kill herself over ShinRan, but Ran also wouldn´t do that over Shinshi (Shinichi and Shiho) or when Shinichi never comes back. She knows and has seen multiply times how much she would hurt him and the others she loves.
Polygamy would be funny, but well will not happen.^^

LOLXD polygamy?well i read a french fanfic with that option,and it was quite good but DC is more for young people,so i don't think it might happen...  :-\

i have to admit that even if i love aicon,i would feel bad for Ran if shinichi choose Ai...
but i don't know why he has to make such a choice,i mean we can love two people but not in a same way... i don't mind if the end is Shinran,as long as  Shinichi stay close to Haibara,because i love their interactions....she could become her confident,a "soulmate"(which doesn't mean a romantic relationship)...
i prefer watching a funny strong and touching friendship rather than a lovey dovey relationship between two lovers...so i don't mind if they only stay close friend^^(even if i think their relationship is between friendship and love)
am i the only one who think like that?do you think if Shinichi choose Ran or Ai,he have to forget the other girl?

I would feel bad too, but didn´t both had spend a long time together while they loved each other in secret? If they were not able to be a couple in that time and needs a poison to shrunk into a kid and a way too fast confession to get the convidence, then i don´t see any point to be sorry for any of them. Only for Ran a bit cause she waits for him sincerly, but like it was already said a million times: She waits for him as a best friend, not as a wife.
Soulmate also a million times... why not?

You´re not the only one who thinks like that, but does a relationship between lovers always means lovey-dovey? How about a funny, strong and touching relationship between Ai/Shiho and Conan/Shinichi as lovers? I doubt they get all lovey-dovey around each other even if they´ll be married for twenty years or longer.
It would be something between YusakuxYukiko and ErixKogoro.^g^

To forget the other girl... for that to happen, he has to realize Ai´s feelings for him first, IF she loves him of cource, don´t worry i won´t forget that Schillok.
But then... dunno. It´s a difference if he gets to know about it when she´s Ai or Shiho since he never really saw her true self. I think so cause it´s a real difference between an adult in a kid body and an adult in her real body. After that... i don´t think he would forget any of them, he would try to be honest (so do i hope) and be together with one as a friend and with the other as a lover.

So yeah, i do have still a lil´bit hope for Aicon or Shinshi but when Ranichi happens Ai will not (pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease~~~~~] die and the same goes for Ran when Aicon/Shinshi happens.
Only two pages..... 8)

In a contest between Ran and Shiho it's obvious Shinichi is going to choose

Spoiler:

Gosho.

ROFL!
Do you have translation for that one?

[Abs.]

In a contest between Ran and Shiho it's obvious Shinichi is going to choose

Spoiler:

Gosho.

ROFL!
Do you have translation for that one?

1.1.  Wanna get married?
2.1.  Huh?
3.ARROW POINTING AT GOSHO.
4.1.  Huh?  Me?
5.1.  AHHH!!!  KUDOU YOU IDIOT

[sstimson]

I think the discussion whether Ai loves Conan has come to an end. Masses of proofs and almost-proofs have been amassed and the final result is - a tie. Your result still depends completely on how you read the Ai-Conan moments and mimic and gesture of the characters.
At least until further proofs or want-to-be-proofs turn up.

It's true that I like this pairing, but it's not that I wouldn't like ShinRan...
The problem is that I fear the results of ConanxAi. If this pairing would really take place, I'm almost sure Ran would commit suicide (what I do not want to happen, after all). (T)he(i)r love is much to deep to give her any chance of getting over it if Shinichi betrays her. Ai wouldn't kill herself in case of ShinRan.
Therefore I have great problems to decide...
Argh, can't I vote for a polygamous option?

A tie is a win.
Nah-nah, Ran isn´t such a weak girl that she would commit suicide over a guy like Shinichi.^^
I bet if that wouldn´t happen before/after she makes the *real* confession, she would laugh and put a smile on her face to calm down Shinichi who would be worried abot her. Of cource at home or on the way at home she´ll cry, but she´s strong enough to live on and find a other happines. Same for Ai/Shiho. But they wouldn´t stop seeing each other, they know each other since kindergarten, they were and still are best friends.

To your *betrayal*, he can´t betray her cause he and she are still only best childhood friends, not confirmed lovers, but i bet that was alreaddy said a million times here. XD

As long as we don´t have a face-to-face speech and confession between Shinichi and Ran, they won´t get magically together. They aren´t married nor did they made a promise to marry each other and before he shrunk into a kid, their relationship wasn´t really loverboy and lovergirl. He only wants to confess to her since he knows he´s on safe ground with her cause she responds his feelings. Before her confession he was a dreamer who thought she would confess and he could play the cool detective boy. Well, his dream did come true-particular. XD

Ran on the other hand is the same as him, she dreams of living together with Shinichi and wants him to confess since it should be the male who do that. It also did come true-particular. XD
After Kazuha and Sonokos support she started to take a few steps forward, but nothing with real results, at least she tried, Shinichi didn´t do more then her in the same matter- trying but no real results.

But you´re right Ai wouldn´t kill herself over ShinRan, but Ran also wouldn´t do that over Shinshi (Shinichi and Shiho) or when Shinichi never comes back. She knows and has seen multiply times how much she would hurt him and the others she loves.
Polygamy would be funny, but well will not happen.^^

LOLXD polygamy?well i read a french fanfic with that option,and it was quite good but DC is more for young people,so i don't think it might happen...  :-\

i have to admit that even if i love aicon,i would feel bad for Ran if shinichi choose Ai...
but i don't know why he has to make such a choice,i mean we can love two people but not in a same way... i don't mind if the end is Shinran,as long as  Shinichi stay close to Haibara,because i love their interactions....she could become her confident,a "soulmate"(which doesn't mean a romantic relationship)...
i prefer watching a funny strong and touching friendship rather than a lovey dovey relationship between two lovers...so i don't mind if they only stay close friend^^(even if i think their relationship is between friendship and love)
am i the only one who think like that?do you think if Shinichi choose Ran or Ai,he have to forget the other girl?

I would feel bad too, but didn´t both had spend a long time together while they loved each other in secret? If they were not able to be a couple in that time and needs a poison to shrunk into a kid and a way too fast confession to get the convidence, then i don´t see any point to be sorry for any of them. Only for Ran a bit cause she waits for him sincerly, but like it was already said a million times: She waits for him as a best friend, not as a wife.
Soulmate also a million times... why not?

You´re not the only one who thinks like that, but does a relationship between lovers always means lovey-dovey? How about a funny, strong and touching relationship between Ai/Shiho and Conan/Shinichi as lovers? I doubt they get all lovey-dovey around each other even if they´ll be married for twenty years or longer.
It would be something between YusakuxYukiko and ErixKogoro.^g^

To forget the other girl... for that to happen, he has to realize Ai´s feelings for him first, IF she loves him of cource, don´t worry i won´t forget that Schillok.
But then... dunno. It´s a difference if he gets to know about it when she´s Ai or Shiho since he never really saw her true self. I think so cause it´s a real difference between an adult in a kid body and an adult in her real body. After that... i don´t think he would forget any of them, he would try to be honest (so do i hope) and be together with one as a friend and with the other as a lover.

So yeah, i do have still a lil´bit hope for Aicon or Shinshi but when Ranichi happens Ai will not (pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease~~~~~] die and the same goes for Ran when Aicon/Shinshi happens.
Only two pages..... 8)

In a contest between Ran and Shiho it's obvious Shinichi is going to choose

Spoiler:

Gosho.

ROFL!
Do you have translation for that one?

Ok neither one will do themselves in, but might they poison the other. Read and seen too many of this kind of plot.

[baka1412]

I think the discussion whether Ai loves Conan has come to an end. Masses of proofs and almost-proofs have been amassed and the final result is - a tie. Your result still depends completely on how you read the Ai-Conan moments and mimic and gesture of the characters.
At least until further proofs or want-to-be-proofs turn up.

Guess we are stuck here. Well... I am interested to see if you are right so please let me ask everyone reading this:
Are Aoyama's "hints of Ai's feelings for Conan" obvious?
Please write "Yes" or "No" and also if you are a fan of the "Ai x Conan" pairing or not.

Yes. (easy)
Uhm... (not easy at all^^)
It's true that I like this pairing, but it's not that I wouldn't like ShinRan...
The problem is that I fear the results of ConanxAi. If this pairing would really take place, I'm almost sure Ran would commit suicide (what I do not want to happen, after all). (T)he(i)r love is much to deep to give her any chance of getting over it if Shinichi betrays her. Ai wouldn't kill herself in case of ShinRan.
Therefore I have great problems to decide...
Argh, can't I vote for a polygamous option?

LOLXD polygamy?well i read a french fanfic with that option,and it was quite good but DC is more for young people,so i don't think it might happen...  :-\

i have to admit that even if i love aicon,i would feel bad for Ran if shinichi choose Ai...
but i don't know why he has to make such a choice,i mean we can love two people but not in a same way... i don't mind if the end is Shinran,as long as  Shinichi stay close to Haibara,because i love their interactions....she could become her confident,a "soulmate"(which doesn't mean a romantic relationship)...
i prefer watching a funny strong and touching friendship rather than a lovey dovey relationship between two lovers...so i don't mind if they only stay close friend^^(even if i think their relationship is between friendship and love)
am i the only one who think like that?do you think if Shinichi choose Ran or Ai,he have to forget the other girl?

Well, unfortunately.. Polygamy is Illegal in japan

Spoiler:

Wait, they could just go for Middle East country and married there 

And the only Romance / Harem manga that actually ended with Polygamy, as far as i know, is To-love-ru

Btw, is there any English translation for that fanfic you mentioned ? It sounds interesting

[sstimson]

What about the Maburaho. How do you classify that?

[mangaluva]

In a contest between Ran and Shiho it's obvious Shinichi is going to choose

Spoiler:

Gosho.

ROFLMAO

[AICHAN]

What about the Maburaho. How do you classify that?

what is  Maburaho?

I think the discussion whether Ai loves Conan has come to an end. Masses of proofs and almost-proofs have been amassed and the final result is - a tie. Your result still depends completely on how you read the Ai-Conan moments and mimic and gesture of the characters.
At least until further proofs or want-to-be-proofs turn up.

Guess we are stuck here. Well... I am interested to see if you are right so please let me ask everyone reading this:
Are Aoyama's "hints of Ai's feelings for Conan" obvious?
Please write "Yes" or "No" and also if you are a fan of the "Ai x Conan" pairing or not.

Yes. (easy)
Uhm... (not easy at all^^)
It's true that I like this pairing, but it's not that I wouldn't like ShinRan...
The problem is that I fear the results of ConanxAi. If this pairing would really take place, I'm almost sure Ran would commit suicide (what I do not want to happen, after all). (T)he(i)r love is much to deep to give her any chance of getting over it if Shinichi betrays her. Ai wouldn't kill herself in case of ShinRan.
Therefore I have great problems to decide...
Argh, can't I vote for a polygamous option?

LOLXD polygamy?well i read a french fanfic with that option,and it was quite good but DC is more for young people,so i don't think it might happen... 

i have to admit that even if i love aicon,i would feel bad for Ran if shinichi choose Ai...
but i don't know why he has to make such a choice,i mean we can love two people but not in a same way... i don't mind if the end is Shinran,as long as  Shinichi stay close to Haibara,because i love their interactions....she could become her confident,a "soulmate"(which doesn't mean a romantic relationship)...
i prefer watching a funny strong and touching friendship rather than a lovey dovey relationship between two lovers...so i don't mind if they only stay close friend^^(even if i think their relationship is between friendship and love)
am i the only one who think like that?do you think if Shinichi choose Ran or Ai,he have to forget the other girl?

Well, unfortunately.. Polygamy is Illegal in japan

Spoiler:

Wait, they could just go for Middle East country and married there 

And the only Romance / Harem manga that actually ended with Polygamy, as far as i know, is To-love-ru

Btw, is there any English translation for that fanfic you mentioned ? It sounds interesting

yeah,it's an interesting fanfic,shinichi was living with shiho and ran....and the characters aren't very OOC(pretty rare in a fanfic) ::)unfortunatly there isn't an english translation ,i'm sorry...
but i'm sure there's some fanfic about polygamy, i have to seach for them...

[baka1412]

DC english fanfiction with Polygamy plot device ? I don't think it actually exist..

I've been reading fanfiction.net since high school, and never found any record of that...

Though i think it would be an interesting (and controversial) plot element if someone were to write about it..

_{Now where is Bluekaito when we need him ? I'm thinking about challenging him to write a fanfict about this}