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I love you, Sonoci. <3
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@Kleene & Kaito Lady: Thanks~

@Holmes: You've caught the disease D:

@Yurikochan: Oh you <3

Update today of low quality :X As there are A LOT of pages to this tutorial, I don't want to spend too much time making you guys wait. So, for those impatient like me, you can see the scans in all their horrid scanner quality :'D

4koma Tutorial (low quality scan version) (note that 4koma is spelt wrong because I was unaware at the time :V)

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Time for...
sonoci'sHaibara Ai's 4 Coma Tutorial
Haibara: This is more accurate considering sonoci's absense.
Conan: Uh-huh. Thanks for mentioning my assistance, by the way.
Haibara: Don't give me that.
I give credit where it's due. Your 'assistant' status is lacking 'istant' right now.
ASSISTANT
Conan: Lacking...?
Wh-Hey!
Haibara: Rule #1: Unless under certain duress, NEVER spell out a joke.
You've got a lot to learn, Donkey Boy. We'd better get started then. For your sake.
Conan: Doesn't she realize the whole purpose of this is to spell out jokes?
Hmph.
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Haibara: Deceiving as it was, what I just said doesn't hold merit here. As "There are no rules or steps to creating 4Comas"...
Conan: Who has a lot to learn?
Hah!
So if there are no rules... How exactly is this going to work?
Haibara: "In place of rules or steps"..."there are simple comedy guidelines to make success easier"...
Conan: Hm... I see...
Haibara: "Process & Layouts are personal choices since there are so many options"... "But these tips should help anyone starting on their way"...
"Tip #1"...
...GUH!!
Conan: "GUH"? Does it stand for something?
"Girls Up High"...?
"Guys Upon Hills"?
Haibara: O-Op...
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Haibara: OPPOSITES ATTRACT!
Tip #1
Conan: ..."Glomp Unsuspecting Humans"...?
WHAT.
Haibara: Maybe you should read this paper before asking questions....
() read silently
" " read aloud
* perform action
(If you fail to follow...
I swear to Vodka, I'll tell Gin on you. Also, make sure to show this part.)
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Conan: Opposites Attract, huh?
Ohoho!
Intriguing!!
Mind explaining?
Haibara: Not at all!
Ohoho!
"This tip involves the element of surprise and adaptation."
"It helps to avoid predictability"...
"Take this 'Nyron' *yes, I know this isn't what it's supposed to be called* strip for example."
TIP #1 EXAMPLE A
Conan: Shinichi-niichan! Shinichi-niichan!
Aren't you me?
Shinichi: YES.
Conan: Nyron~
Haibara: "Cute imagery, cute punchline." "Good for a chuckle."
"However, a good chuckle isn't good enough."
"We need a dark punchline to balance with the cute imagery."
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TIP #1 EXAMPLE B
Conan: Shinichi-niichan! Shinichi-niichan!
Where are the Detective Boys?
Shinichi: I killed them. With an ax.
Conan: . . .
Haibara: "And voila."
"We get this example."
Heh.
"By using not only an opposite punchline, but an opposite behavior for Kudo-kun"...
"A completely different conclusion was made."
"This is one point where laughs could occur."
"Kudo-kun's opposite actions attract those 'WTF' giggles quite well."
Seems cheap...
"And here's the back-up"... "Edogawa-kun's face."
"By deviating from the chibi Nyron face for a more realistic one"... "He surprises the reader."
"The element of surprise is one of the best weapons in a 4Coma's arsenal"...
"Tip #1 makes this surprise easier to accomplish." "Which leads us to-"
Unknown: "Tip #2"...
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Shinichi?: "The Element of Surprise".
TIP #2
Haibara: "Wh-Wha...? Y-You're...
T-Tall?
Shinichi?: "Surprised", aren't ya?
Unfortunately, "surprise mostly consists of the unexpected"... ..."and simple tricks."
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Conan: This is no exception.
Haibara: ...Stilts.
Wait...!
There's probably still something...
...under that mask.
I see: that's the first part of this tip.
The stilts weren't the trick... It's the mask...
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Conan & Haibara: "The Old Red-Herring trick".
Conan: "First, you set up what seems to be an obvious punchline".
"And then"-
WHOA! WHOA!
Haibara: Come on, don't hide. Let's see your "lovely" mug.
Conan: Um.
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Conan: Okay?
"You exchange it for something completely different."
Haibara: A CONTINUATION!?
Conan: I've gotta say, I didn't think this was going to work. But you were right on cue. As soon as I said "And then"...
...You pulled the mask off."
Haibara:
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.
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.
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Conan: Anyway, according to this you have an example for the Red-Herring trick. Mind showing it sometime today?
Haibara: I think I already did.
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Conan: AAAlright then...
I'll just move on... If you're sure it's okay...
"An easy way of pulling off the Red-Herring trick is the AMJ method"...
"Or the 'Arson Murder and Jay-Walking' method."
"Basically, among a list of horrible things"... "you pick something mild as the punchline."
Like the title.
Arson
Murder
Jay-Walking <-
Conan: "This example demonstrates quite nicely"...
TIP #2 EXAMPLE A
Ayumi: Oh!
GASP
What a horrible man!
Didn't he see the sign!?
Conan: "Despite killing a man and blowing up a car"...
Among other things...
"What gets to Ayumi-chan is his smoking near a non-smoking sign."
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Conan: "Another method is the 'What if' method"...
"Basically use a 'What if' scenario open for interpretation"... "and give you take on it. Since it's your opinion, it won't be too predictable."
"Like 'What if'..."
"...Gin tried to be a comedian?"...
In sonoci's view...
This.
TIP #2 EXAMPLE B
Gin: THIS IS A PUNCHLINE.
Silence
BANG BAM
AIEE!!
Gin: THAT WAS THE PART WHERE YOU LAUGH.
Conan: ...W-Which...leads into...
Unknown: Tip #3.
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Tip #3
Haibara: IMAGINATION!
Conan: T-Tip #4...
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Haibara: "Your mind's the limit when it comes to tip #3!"
"Many laughs come from those over-the-top random moments!"
Conan: x3x
Haibara: "In addition, there's also a technique that can be referred to as..."
"The Noodle Incident." "Where, in essence, it's up to the reader to form their own conclusion or punchline."
"The key is to NEVER reveal what actually happened."
"The fun comes from the speculation." "A good example is the strip 'Traumatized' from earlier."
Conan: GAH!
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Haibara: Geez! What now?
. . .
w h a t
. . .
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Unknown: USE MORE EXAMPLES
TIP #3 EXAMPLE A
Ran: It was crazy.
It took weeks to get the jam out and dad wouldn't look at a phone for months.
Shinichi: Ah, sorry Ran.
*shoots out of panel*
Breaking the fourth wall is also a tactic you can use to get laughs.
Conan: . . . . .
. . . . .
. . . . . .
moving on...
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Tip #4
Conan: TIMING!
"Now, as some may well know this tip is monumental.
VERY important.
Haibara: "Good timing can change everything for the better".
"Luckily we're here to help."
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Conan: "First & foremost is the use of PAUSES".
"Fortunately, with its limits, 4Comas actually make things easier."
Haibara: "But as this is about silence, an example would be better."
TIP #4 EXAMPLE A
Conan: RAN! I'M SHINICHI!
*there's two reactions here, no text*
Ran's book: 100 ways to KILL
Haibara: "The key to getting laughs with pauses are expressions."
"If you want a reaction shot or two, make sure to plan your joke to fit 4 panels."
"Typically when pauses are used they're in panel 2, 3, or both"...
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Haibara: "Which leads to-"
Uh.
THE END
...apparently

As practice, look over 4komas I've done before and see which tips are present!! \o/
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Yay \o/ <3
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Nice! :D

And which disease did I catch?
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I always love "nyoro~n" comics :P
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Nice tutorial XD
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*totally loves the tutorial* *O*
YOURE AWESOME SONOCI!!!!
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that up there is really cool!!
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@Holmes: You caught the "starting a new page" disease D: It plagues me so @_@

@Akonyl: \o/ I have to wonder how you liked the second, not so 'nyoro~n' comic :X

@Kleene, breva, Kaito Lady & redangelran: Thank you all very much \o/


Today's update is a 4koma that relates to the LATEST MANGA FILE. TREAD AT YOUR OWN RISK
Spoiler: LIKE ME


...in regards to the above (no spoilers in this comment, don't worry) I keep spelling the title as "LIME ME" ...OTL
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sonoci wrote: @Holmes: You caught the "starting a new page" disease D: It plagues me so @_@

@Akonyl: \o/ I have to wonder how you liked the second, not so 'nyoro~n' comic :X

@Kleene, breva, Kaito Lady & redangelran: Thank you all very much \o/


Today's update is a 4Coma that relates to the LATEST MANGA FILE. In fact, this file has yet to be fully released. TREAD AT YOUR OWN RISK
Spoiler: LIKE ME


...in regards to the above (no spoilers in this comment, don't worry) I keep spelling the title as "LIME ME" ...OTL
This is amazing, and it may have an example of all four principles to boot,
Spoiler:
Opposites for the Okiya Akai inner dialogue
Surprise Cream Stew as a reaction to Conan being abducted
Imagining the state of Agasa's car
The timing of the stew and Haibara and Agasa's reactions
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Chekhov MacGuffin wrote: This is amazing, and it may have an example of all four principles to boot,
Spoiler:
Opposites for the Okiya Akai inner dialogue
Surprise Cream Stew as a reaction to Conan being abducted
Imagining the state of Agasa's car
The timing of the stew and Haibara and Agasa's reactions
Wow, I didn't even notice that xD I guess after you make as many 4komas as I have, it just becomes habit...

Also, damn you Chekhov, damn you and your inspiration giving words :X

NOTE: I'm...not sure this is a spoiler at all. It involves Okiya, but that's about it. Most likely you're safe looking at it (I probably won't even post it under the spoiler category in the first post, TBH)
Spoiler: Technical Difficulties

In other news, I tried to record a stream of the above, but I still have to work out some things. ...Mainly how to get the stream to work :X
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sonoci wrote:
Spoiler: Technical Difficulties
LOL XD
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Yay sonoci \o/
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If there are a lot of 4komas that have to do with Okiya or Akai or *MANGA SPOILERS* blame Chek  :|

But yeah, MANGA SPOILER character in this one folks
Spoiler: The REAL Reason
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