Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Suutashi · Post by **Suutashi** » September 26th, 2011, 7:54 pm

sstimson wrote:
Suutashi wrote:
sstimson wrote: @Eworm well to your above comment, a little of yes and no.

From his hint, I see there is more to it, And I kinda understand why I missed the answer.

But my other comment still stands. Think of it this way. Detective Conan is able to remove one of the normal suspects, but two remain. His problem is the evidences is strong for both the remaining suspects and both had means and motive. But the crime scene clearly shows only one could have done it. Conan is like me. Two possible answers have shown themselves. And You are also right only one could have done it. What I did by asking why was like checking the where about of our suspects. And once you know the why then, and only then can you make progress in the case.

Like I said, in his hint, he explained the WHY. And I thank him for that.

Sstimson, I have told you and Kogorou when you were wrong and that should have been enough. When you were told that the answer you gave was incorrect you should have looked into other possible solutions. Also, when you and Kogorou gave your answers I gave you another hint. The part about Detective Conan being able to eliminate normal suspect I've been doing that each time an incorrect answer is given. If you read what I said about your last answer you would realize that I eliminated several possible answers and that's not counting what was typed in beige text. As for the
Suutashi - your riddle I believe fall in the solvable in more then one way class. Both my and Kogorou possible solutions are valid and you need to explain why they do not work, not just say they do not work.
thing. I told you this before and I'll say it again.

Spoiler:
You need to find a solution that fits all of the clues not just some of them. I've mentioned that change is an important clue so try to see how that may have something to do with the answer.

Read please the above Bold Print.

One problem with your riddle is this: There should only be ONE completely right answer. All other answers should be provable wrong and why. Another way to try and explain this was a what if. What if my earlier riddle about the Diamond and the Ice had a different answer. What if the answer was for example a transporter beam put it there. And that was the answer. Yet someone like you said the clasp broke. It would be the wrong answer, but could it be proven to be the wrong answer? Well if I said ( and note again this is for example purpose only ) the clasp after the fact looked brand new then maybe. It sometimes is very important what is NOT MENTIONED. Just using what you have and nothing else can leave solution HOLES, where other possiblibilties enter.

Back to your riddle. Two points, one of the reasons KID leaves note is he wants others at the scene when he borrows the things he is after, Note that in the KID's first DC note, the police completely missed understood its meaning. Only Conan was at the right place at the right time. I sure KID in his notes is playing a game. It like this: How hard can I make my messages so who I want to show up does without spelling it out for them. Note in that note as well, the same note as figured out in two completely different ways. Most of KID's later notes were easier puzzles so he can make sure he gets his audience. Yes the note will in the end show what KID did mean like in the first note. The trick is to be like Conan and figure out its TRUE meaning. Point number two is to find the right balance between spelling it all out and making it so hard no one shows up.

I can see but only because of your clue what I need to add to my solution. And while we are wrong to your way of thinking, We are not completely wrong until KID does his thing elsewhere. These are possible answers. And I did show you in long detail that I did indeed

find a solution that fits all of the clues not just some of them

I now know two more things. One, a change of seasons is important. And as for part two I feel KID is more likely to used FIXED months.

The Japanese Part of your riddle I leave to Kogorou. My solution was completely logical. but your fire to water part is strange unless you go backwards as you showed it goes water to fire, not the other way around. Yes at the moment both Kogorou and myself are like the police in the first encounter. It is possible KID may do his show this time on the stage to an empty theater.

Sstimson, I'm done arguing with you. I know that nothing I tell you would do me any good. So either you can try again to solve it or you can count on me ignoring your posts when you waste both our time by arguing.

sstimson · Post by **sstimson** » September 26th, 2011, 8:42 pm

I know you might not read this Suutashi. If so, so be it. But you are missing the boat. I am only making a point. and if you would read the bolded text you will see that I thanked you for the why. What I am currently saying is this: You are likely not saying certain things that should be there in writing. I have told both Eworm and Kogorou that. You might be cheating THOUGH I will not as yet say that. I will just say you might be. This might be asking for too major of a hint, but could you spell out to us poor undereducated police

Spoiler:

One last note this is the third time you missed the boat. You need to read very carefully each and every word before blasting others for thing that simply are not there. You might want to explain what you mean by these statements so I can try to explain what I was trying to say and that you misunderstood.

...arguing with you

find a solution that fits all of the clues not just some of them

Sstimson, I have told you and Kogorou when you were wrong and that should have been enough. When you were told that the answer you gave was incorrect you should have looked into other possible solutions. Also, when you and Kogorou gave your answers I gave you another hint. The part about Detective Conan being able to eliminate normal suspect I've been doing that each time an incorrect answer is given. If you read what I said about your last answer you would realize that I eliminated several possible answers and that's not counting what was typed in beige text. As for the
Quote
Suutashi - your riddle I believe fall in the solvable in more then one way class. Both my and Kogorou possible solutions are valid and you need to explain why they do not work, not just say they do not work.
thing. I told you this before and I'll say it again.

Short answer my side part one

I am not arguing with you. I am stating an opinion about your riddle and maybe how it could be better.

Short answer my side part two

I did repeat my answer to show you that to my way of thinking it did fit the note

Short answer my side part three

Again I am stating an opinion. It maybe proven wrong when the answer is known. It for now is waiting for evidence either way to see if it stands or if I am wrong. (about my opinion, not your riddle answer. again this is about my opinion about your riddle, not your riddle)

eworm · Post by **eworm** » September 27th, 2011, 2:37 am

sstimson - remember the first Detective Conan case Kaitou Kid appeared in? He sent in the note and Kogorou deduced it was about Okino Yoko's concert or something, pointing to a wrong place. In my eyes you seem to resemble such Kogorou, clinging to his deduction "because it may be true, right? Who cares if it's correct, it's what I deduced!". You seem not to care if you get it right - you just want it to be "valid". Kind of like a detective who chooses one of the suspects and tries to "solve" the case in a way that would make that person a culprit, even if they're not. Kaitou Kid wants to steal X jewel at Y time and he coded both X and Y in his note. Nothing good will come from you giving a valid but incorrect answer. He won't change his plans just because one of the policemen made a mistake.
In other words - chill. Wrong answers can be "valid". But it's all about giving the correct one. Period.

Don't argue anymore, okay? I know both of you are trying to simply prove your points, but just concentrate on the riddle. (Oh yeah, I'm the one to talk)

sstimson · Post by **sstimson** » September 27th, 2011, 3:17 am

And thank you for repeating what I was saying. Welcome to the "poor undereducated police" ( Reply 1771 line 4 center )

Also Reply 1769 Paragraph two.

or to make it real simple here is the quote from the first.

This might be asking for too major of a hint, but could you spell out to us poor undereducated police which season change is important?

and part two with a part bolded to make it easier to find

Back to your riddle. Two points, one of the reasons KID leaves note is he wants others at the scene when he borrows the things he is after, Note that in the KID's first DC note, the police completely missed understood its meaning. Only Conan was at the right place at the right time. I sure KID in his notes is playing a game. It like this: How hard can I make my messages so who I want to show up does without spelling it out for them. Note in that note as well, the same note as figured out in two completely different ways. Most of KID's later notes were easier puzzles so he can make sure he gets his audience. Yes the note will in the end show what KID did mean like in the first note. The trick is to be like Conan and figure out its TRUE meaning. Point number two is to find the right balance between spelling it all out and making it so hard no one shows up.

Yes at the moment both Kogorou and myself are like the police in the first encounter.

eworm wrote: sstimson - remember the first Detective Conan case Kaitou Kid appeared in? He sent in the note and Kogorou deduced it was about Okino Yoko's concert or something, pointing to a wrong place. In my eyes you seem to resemble such Kogorou, clinging to his deduction "because it may be true, right? Who cares if it's correct, it's what I deduced!". You seem not to care if you get it right - you just want it to be "valid". Kind of like a detective who chooses one of the suspects and tries to "solve" the case in a way that would make that person a culprit, even if they're not. Kaitou Kid wants to steal X jewel at Y time and he coded both X and Y in his note. Nothing good will come from you giving a valid but incorrect answer. He won't change his plans just because one of the policemen made a mistake.
In other words - chill. Wrong answers can be "valid". But it's all about giving the correct one. Period.

Don't argue anymore, okay? I know both of you are trying to simply prove your points, but just concentrate on the riddle. (Oh yeah, I'm the one to talk)

@Eworm, I want you to understand I am not picking on you. You just showed again about replying without carefully reading.

Spoiler:

As to the charge of being stubborn, I am likely guilt as charged. But remember this at least some times in stories, the stubborn Detective sometimes is right while everyone else though he was wrong. (Yes I sure it is much less likely in real life)

any thought anyone?

I am hoping we can give KID the audience. He should never play to an empty theater or to quote myself once again

sstimson wrote: It is possible KID may do his show this time on the stage to an empty theater.

eworm · Post by **eworm** » September 27th, 2011, 3:29 am

Okay, I admit, didn't notice how you two already talked about that. Well, as long as we're all cool about that.

sstimson · Post by **sstimson** » September 27th, 2011, 4:22 am

Riddle

Spoiler:

Next and later to put this new ideas to work

Spoiler:

Suutashi · Post by **Suutashi** » September 27th, 2011, 4:17 pm

sstimson wrote: Riddle Just noticed something these words "before escaping the approaching fire beneath water's protective embrace".
I had though it was fire water, but now I see it is Water Fire. The key word is APPROACHING.

with that and the card or fixed idea this is what is left

Aries= Fire
Cancer= Water
Leo= Fire
Scorpio= Water
Sagittarius= Fire
Pisces= Water

Aries [Cardinal] Fire - March 21 - April 20
Cancer [Cardinal] Water - June 21 - July 21
Leo [Fixed] Fire - July 22 - August 22
Scorpio [Fixed] Water - October 23 - November 21

That strongly suggest Cancer to Leo or spring to summer

March Stones March Aquamarine/Bloodstone Jasper
April Stones April Diamond Sapphire
June Stones June Pearl, Moonstone, Alexandrite Emerald
July Stones July Ruby Onyx
August Stones August Peridot/Sardonyx Carnelian
October Stones October Opal/Tourmaline Aquamarine
November Stones November Topaz Topaz

Color Notes
March - Light Blue
April - Clear
June - White
July - Red
August - Light Green
October - Pink or maybe Light Red
November - Yellow

Next and later to put this new ideas to work

Color wise seem to suggest either Opal or Tourmaline. and of those the Opal seems the most likely Aquamarine being water and the Fire opal
Tourmaline color seems wrong as most are Bluish or brownish black to Black. A thought, Could KID be after a FIRE OPAL?

Another thought. Leo is the Fire part of the Water to Fire. Kid would currently be in water and is moving to fire. The water part would be Cancer which is July. So the fire month should be August. Time to try a date leaving the Nov part as hinted in the note and just using the coming part gives us either 7-8-11 or 8-7-11 but as we are going from water to fire it should be July 8 2011, A Friday and after a Fire Opal

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sstimson · Post by **sstimson** » September 27th, 2011, 6:13 pm

Ok Color game again.

Spoiler:

Pearl - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl - July 1 to July 21 Cancer

white, pink, silver-, cream-, golden-colored, green, blue, black, yellow, rainbow

but not the Fire color of RED

Next

Moonstone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonstone_(gemstone) - July 1 to July 21 Cancer

Can be numerous colors, including blue, grey, white, pink, green and brown

but not the Fire color of RED

Next

Alexandrite - http://www.jewelsforme.com/alexandrite-jewelry.asp - July 1 to July 21 Cancer

Do you know about the amazing color change properties of alexandrite? Do you know why lab-created alexandrite is more popular than the genuine gemstone? Learn all there is to know about alexandrite in our collection of information about this truly unique mineral. Read about the cultural and religious history of alexandrite, the physical properties of alexandrite, and learn how to care for your alexandrite jewelry.

but this is a color changer, and if my next idea is wrong might go with this - Blue green by day ( water ) to Purple-red by night ( Fire )

next

Ruby - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby - July 21 to July 31 Leo
Red, may be brownish, purplish or pinkish AND RED

There is our FIRE color

next

Peridot - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peridot - July 21 to July 31 Leo

Yellow, to yellow-green, olive-green, to brownish, sometimes a lime-green, to emerald-ish hue

Wrong color

next

Sardonyx - July 21 to July 31 Leo

reds and yellows in sardonyx

there is our Fire red again

That leaves Pearl, Moonstone, Alexandrite, RUBY, and Sardonyx

Pearls can be blue and do come from the sea, but the red color is not a fire color, so gone

Moonstones can be blue and the moon does effect the sea, but again red color is not a fire color, so gone

Sardonyx has the red but this note make me wonder if it is worth Kid's time
Sardonyx is a relatively common and inexpensive gemstone- From http://www.jewelryformother.com/birthstone_info/august_peridot.html

That leaves the Ruby and the Alexandrite. The later seems too prefect like the Aquamarine, so I am wary of going with it, beside its red is a purple red, not the FIRE red of the ruby

So time to look at the RUBY closer

from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby

A ruby is a pink to blood-red colored gemstone, a variety of the mineral corundum (aluminium oxide). The red color is caused mainly by the presence of the element chromium. Its name comes from ruber, Latin for red. Other varieties of gem-quality corundum are called sapphires. The ruby is considered one of the four precious stones, together with the sapphire, the emerald, and the diamond.[1]

Prices of rubies are primarily determined by color. The brightest and most valuable "red" called pigeon blood-red, commands a huge premium over other rubies of similar quality. After color follows clarity: similar to diamonds, a clear stone will command a premium, but a ruby without any needle-like rutile inclusions may indicate that the stone has been treated. Cut and carat (weight) also determine the price.

Factors affecting value

Diamonds are graded using criteria that have become known as the four Cs, namely color, cut, clarity and carat weight. Similarly natural rubies can be evaluated using the four Cs together with their size and geographic origin.

Color: In the evaluation of colored gemstones, color is the single most important factor. Color divides into three components; hue, saturation and tone. Hue refers to "color" as we normally use the term. Transparent gemstones occur in the following hues: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, purple and pink. The first six are known as spectral hues; the last two are modified spectral hues. Purple is a hue that falls halfway between red and blue. Pink is a paler shade of red.[5] In nature there are rarely pure hues so when speaking of the hue of a gemstone we speak of primary and secondary and sometimes tertiary hues. In ruby the primary hue must be red. All other hues of the gem species corundum are called sapphire. Ruby may exhibit a range of secondary hues. Orange, purple, violet and pink are possible.

The finest ruby is best described as being a vivid medium-dark toned red. Secondary hues add an additional complication. Pink, orange, and purple are the normal secondary hues in ruby. Of the three, purple is preferred because, firstly, the purple reinforces the red making it appear richer.[5] Secondly, purple occupies a position on the color wheel halfway between red and blue. In Burma where the term pigeon blood originated, rubies are set in pure gold. Pure gold is itself a highly saturated yellow. Set a purplish-red ruby in yellow and the yellow neutralizes its complement blue leaving the stone appearing to be pure red in the setting.[6]

Rubies have always been held in high esteem in Asian countries. They were used to ornament armor, scabbards, and harnesses of noblemen in India and China. Rubies were laid beneath the foundation of buildings to secure good fortune to the structure.[19]

Spoiler:

Suutashi · Post by **Suutashi** » September 27th, 2011, 6:22 pm

sstimson wrote: Ok Color game again.

Pearl - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl - July 1 to July 21 Cancer

white, pink, silver-, cream-, golden-colored, green, blue, black, yellow, rainbow

but not the Fire color of RED

Next

Moonstone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonstone_(gemstone) - July 1 to July 21 Cancer

Can be numerous colors, including blue, grey, white, pink, green and brown

but not the Fire color of RED

Next

Alexandrite - http://www.jewelsforme.com/alexandrite-jewelry.asp - July 1 to July 21 Cancer

Do you know about the amazing color change properties of alexandrite? Do you know why lab-created alexandrite is more popular than the genuine gemstone? Learn all there is to know about alexandrite in our collection of information about this truly unique mineral. Read about the cultural and religious history of alexandrite, the physical properties of alexandrite, and learn how to care for your alexandrite jewelry.

but this is a color changer, and if my next idea is wrong might go with this - Blue green by day ( water ) to Purple-red by night ( Fire )

next

Ruby - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby - July 21 to July 31 Leo
Red, may be brownish, purplish or pinkish AND RED

There is our FIRE color

next

Peridot - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peridot - July 21 to July 31 Leo

Yellow, to yellow-green, olive-green, to brownish, sometimes a lime-green, to emerald-ish hue

Wrong color

next

Sardonyx - July 21 to July 31 Leo

reds and yellows in sardonyx

there is our Fire red again

That leaves Pearl, Moonstone, Alexandrite, RUBY, and Sardonyx

Pearls can be blue and do come from the sea, but the red color is not a fire color, so gone

Moonstones can be blue and the moon does effect the sea, but again red color is not a fire color, so gone

Sardonyx has the red but this note make me wonder if it is worth Kid's time
Sardonyx is a relatively common and inexpensive gemstone- From http://www.jewelryformother.com/birthstone_info/august_peridot.html

That leaves the Ruby and the Alexandrite. The later seems too prefect like the Aquamarine, so I am wary of going with it, beside its red is a purple red, not the FIRE red of the ruby

So time to look at the RUBY closer

from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby

A ruby is a pink to blood-red colored gemstone, a variety of the mineral corundum (aluminium oxide). The red color is caused mainly by the presence of the element chromium. Its name comes from ruber, Latin for red. Other varieties of gem-quality corundum are called sapphires. The ruby is considered one of the four precious stones, together with the sapphire, the emerald, and the diamond.[1]

Prices of rubies are primarily determined by color. The brightest and most valuable "red" called pigeon blood-red, commands a huge premium over other rubies of similar quality. After color follows clarity: similar to diamonds, a clear stone will command a premium, but a ruby without any needle-like rutile inclusions may indicate that the stone has been treated. Cut and carat (weight) also determine the price.

Factors affecting value

Diamonds are graded using criteria that have become known as the four Cs, namely color, cut, clarity and carat weight. Similarly natural rubies can be evaluated using the four Cs together with their size and geographic origin.

Color: In the evaluation of colored gemstones, color is the single most important factor. Color divides into three components; hue, saturation and tone. Hue refers to "color" as we normally use the term. Transparent gemstones occur in the following hues: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, purple and pink. The first six are known as spectral hues; the last two are modified spectral hues. Purple is a hue that falls halfway between red and blue. Pink is a paler shade of red.[5] In nature there are rarely pure hues so when speaking of the hue of a gemstone we speak of primary and secondary and sometimes tertiary hues. In ruby the primary hue must be red. All other hues of the gem species corundum are called sapphire. Ruby may exhibit a range of secondary hues. Orange, purple, violet and pink are possible.

The finest ruby is best described as being a vivid medium-dark toned red. Secondary hues add an additional complication. Pink, orange, and purple are the normal secondary hues in ruby. Of the three, purple is preferred because, firstly, the purple reinforces the red making it appear richer.[5] Secondly, purple occupies a position on the color wheel halfway between red and blue. In Burma where the term pigeon blood originated, rubies are set in pure gold. Pure gold is itself a highly saturated yellow. Set a purplish-red ruby in yellow and the yellow neutralizes its complement blue leaving the stone appearing to be pure red in the setting.[6]

Rubies have always been held in high esteem in Asian countries. They were used to ornament armor, scabbards, and harnesses of noblemen in India and China. Rubies were laid beneath the foundation of buildings to secure good fortune to the structure.[19]

So I think the stone kid is after is a Ruby. It is a precious stone, it is the right color, and it July's birthstone. July is the start of summer which meteorological speaking starts on July 1st

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Kogorou · Post by **Kogorou** » September 27th, 2011, 6:49 pm

Sorry I am not around so much anymore. It's exam time (again) but you can expect more of me after this week

sstimson · Post by **sstimson** » September 27th, 2011, 7:36 pm

Spoiler:

So then maybe it is the one that does. And it is an awesome stone - the Alexandrite

From Alexandrite

The Gemstone Alexandrite is the color changing variety of the mineral Chrysoberyl. The June Birthstone, its color varies from red to green depending upon the light source. It is an alternate (modern) Zodiac stone for the constellation of Gemini. Alexandrite is associated with balance, confidence, and joy.

Alexandrite is named for the former czar of Russia, Alexander II, and was first discovered in the Ural Mountains of Russia, supposedly on the day of his birth. Chromium gives alexandrite its color and while, in most minerals, a trace element like chromium would provide only one color to the mineral, in alexandrite it gives it two! Coloring agents are dependent on the wavelength of light and the chemical bonds in the crystal to determine the color that they will cause. An element like copper, in normal light, can cause a green color in malachite and a blue color in azurite, it all depends on the character of the chemical bonding. In a single specimen of alexandrite, the chromium is in such a balanced situation that the color of the specimen depends on the character of light that hits the crystal. If the light is natural sunlight or fluorescent light, the crystal will be green; however, if the light is incandescent light from a common indoor light bulb, then the crystal will appear red.

Synthetic corundums spiked with trace elements that yield an alexandrite-like color change are sold as alexandrite on the gemstone market. These stones have a red-violet, near-amethyst color in incandescent light and a blue-violet color in daylight. They are far cheaper than natural alexandrites, which are some of the rarest and most expensive of gemstones.

For natural alexandrite specimens, see our Alexandrite Specimens pages. These specimens will not (generally) be gem-quality, as natural, top-quality stones can fetch prices over $10,000 per carat.

from light green

to an ocean like blue

to reddish

and here about about this stone from Here

From our Reserve Stock of the Visakhapatnam Mine in Andhra Pradesh, India. Mined in 2005 Outstanding 0.27 carat Trillion Natural Alexandrite. Slightly bluish-Emerald Green in daylight changing to Grape with tertiary pink/red flashes in warm incandescent or candlelight. VVS, 4.30 X 4.40 X 2.00 MM with a 90% Color change. Richly saturated and brilliant coloration. No Treatment to the gem.

Spoiler:

Suutashi · Post by **Suutashi** » September 27th, 2011, 7:44 pm

sstimson wrote: So then maybe it is the one that does. And it is an awesome stone - the Alexandrite

From Alexandrite

The Gemstone Alexandrite is the color changing variety of the mineral Chrysoberyl. The June Birthstone, its color varies from red to green depending upon the light source. It is an alternate (modern) Zodiac stone for the constellation of Gemini. Alexandrite is associated with balance, confidence, and joy.

Alexandrite is named for the former czar of Russia, Alexander II, and was first discovered in the Ural Mountains of Russia, supposedly on the day of his birth. Chromium gives alexandrite its color and while, in most minerals, a trace element like chromium would provide only one color to the mineral, in alexandrite it gives it two! Coloring agents are dependent on the wavelength of light and the chemical bonds in the crystal to determine the color that they will cause. An element like copper, in normal light, can cause a green color in malachite and a blue color in azurite, it all depends on the character of the chemical bonding. In a single specimen of alexandrite, the chromium is in such a balanced situation that the color of the specimen depends on the character of light that hits the crystal. If the light is natural sunlight or fluorescent light, the crystal will be green; however, if the light is incandescent light from a common indoor light bulb, then the crystal will appear red.

Synthetic corundums spiked with trace elements that yield an alexandrite-like color change are sold as alexandrite on the gemstone market. These stones have a red-violet, near-amethyst color in incandescent light and a blue-violet color in daylight. They are far cheaper than natural alexandrites, which are some of the rarest and most expensive of gemstones.

For natural alexandrite specimens, see our Alexandrite Specimens pages. These specimens will not (generally) be gem-quality, as natural, top-quality stones can fetch prices over $10,000 per carat.

from light green to an ocean like blue to reddish

and here about about this stone from Here

From our Reserve Stock of the Visakhapatnam Mine in Andhra Pradesh, India. Mined in 2005 Outstanding 0.27 carat Trillion Natural Alexandrite. Slightly bluish-Emerald Green in daylight changing to Grape with tertiary pink/red flashes in warm incandescent or candlelight. VVS, 4.30 X 4.40 X 2.00 MM with a 90% Color change. Richly saturated and brilliant coloration. No Treatment to the gem.

and adding the color change part in candle part means this must be it. KID WANTS A ALEXANDRITE

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sstimson · Post by **sstimson** » September 28th, 2011, 1:02 am

Well this is my current problem. You said that Japanese knowledge was need for the next part, but that is Kogorou strong suit.I might try it if I could get a starting point. You said I got the time of year right.

Spoiler:

Also I got another idea for a short and likely too easy Mini Mystery

This happens in a bank. Unlike other business there is a lot of intercompany dating going on like two tellers dating each other, supervisor dating the CFO, the bank guard dating the President's niece Etc.

Anyway one day when the bank guard goes to open the Bank vault, he finds the President is dead inside the vault.

The Police are called and investigate. They find it to be murder.

Who did it and how was it done?

It you want you can ask questions and if they do not give the game away, I will answer them

Suutashi · Post by **Suutashi** » September 28th, 2011, 1:20 am

sstimson wrote: Well this is my current problem. You said that Japanese knowledge was need for the next part, but that is Kogorou strong suit.I might try it if I could get a starting point. You said I got the time of year right. Did it happen at that time ( spring / Summer) ?

Also I got another idea for a short and likely too easy Mini Mystery

This happens in a bank. Unlike other business there is a lot of intercompany dating going on like two tellers dating each other, supervisor dating the CFO, the bank guard dating the President's niece Etc.

Anyway one day when the bank guard goes to open the Bank vault, he finds the President is dead inside the vault.

The Police are called and investigate. They find it to be murder.

Who did it and how was it done?

It you want you can ask questions and if they do not give the game away, I will answer them

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Kogorou · Post by **Kogorou** » September 30th, 2011, 5:16 am

Okay guys. Calmn down now

It seems my exams has gotten in my way again XD
As far as I see suutashui's riddle wasn't completely solved because we still need to find the date of it.
I presented a way of how it can be done.
It's up to suutashi if he wants to declare you or the person who posts the right date the winner.

@sstimson:
Only post riddles when you solved one! And from what I get you haven't got the okay from suutashi that you solved it completely.

I will wait for a new riddle

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Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread

Re: Kogorous Riddle Thread and eworms Deduction Thread