Magic Kaitou - Special Chapter (1st part)

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Not sure, but it looks like they think Nakamori Ginzo is Kaitou Kid. Probably that leaves Aoko as Kaitou Lady, since they said "Greetings, Kaitou Kid." to Kid in disguise as Nakamori.

Hmm..possibly. But it seemed out of character of Aoko to go "Kaito~ how does this look." "It's a hair clip. Hair clip!" "Isn't it cute?"
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Then it's probably a different group than Snake's, sadly. Unless they're being stupider than normal, which one would think they'd get smarter since Gosho's skills have increased a lot since their first appearance. Because Kid was the one they killed, even if they're still convinced they missed, not Phantom Lady...

DUDE. Maybe AOKO'S mom is Phantom Lady, and we've got it all wrong! Hear me out!

The hairclip is obviously going to be important, because you're right, that is out of character and conservation of detail decrees it important. The hairclip looks like the Eiffel Tower, which is where Toichi and Phantom Lady first met, and where Toichi first appeared. MAYBE the hair clip is important because it's a memento of Phantom Lady's that she got in Paris when she met Toichi. Aoko found it in her house, thought it was pretty, and put it in her hair. It would explain why the group thinks that Nakamori is Kid and Aoko is Phantom Lady perfectly. Say Aoko's mom dies when Aoko's a baby, and Phantom Lady conveniently disappears. Years later, Toichi dies on stage and Kid disappears. BUT Nakamori was a friend of Toichi's, so maybe the group is reasoning that Kid!Nakamori got scared because his friend was killed and Nakamori thought it was a warning. And then when Aoko is All Grown Up she can play Phantom Lady, and so the group reasons that Kid!Nakamori comes out of retirement to teach her the ropes. (Still doesn't explain all the head of Taskforce alibis, but they're idiots, obviously.) Kaito's mom, meanwhile, is suspicious for the sole reason of being in on the secrets of both Toichi and Aoko's mom. She knows (because she was buddies with Aoko's mom maybe) about the fake Ryoma stuff and, without telling Kaito about Aoko's mom, gets Kaito to do that heist. So Kaito meanwhile still has no idea about the true identity of Phantom Lady, and thinks it may be his own mother, hence his words at the end of Patriot Kid.
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That's definitely an idea. I guess we'll learn more at the second part of the special chapter.
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But if what you said is true, Aoko will definitely have a much more prominent role in MK. Beyond just 'Kaito's love interest' as Ran previously had until she was shown saving Vermouth and Ai.
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Which makes it make even more sense, once you think about it.
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We know Gosho loves to reuse his character tropes. He's given Ran something more to do than just pine after Shinichi, so now it's Aoko's turn.
It'd still be one hell of a plot twist. Maybe I've just been watching too much Doctor Who and am too used to being mindscrewed by storytellers.
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Anyone else noticed that
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Akako is in the story so she must have some sort of role too? And yes, I agree with Aoko having a bigger role than just some mop-yielding KID hater. My original theory is that Aoko's mom may be Phantom Lady.
Will this file just be in two parts?
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queen misanagi wrote: Will this file just be in two parts?
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queen misanagi wrote: Anyone else noticed that
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Akako is in the story so she must have some sort of role too? And yes, I agree with Aoko having a bigger role than just some mop-yielding KID hater. My original theory is that Aoko's mom may be Phantom Lady.
Will this file just be in two parts?
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Yeah, I was thinking she was important too. From the way she's talking to Kaito in class, she probably knows shit's about to go down and so managed to go there with Aoko to make sure things don't go too bad. But then Kaito-Nakamori and Aoko wander off on their own, which sort of negates the point... Maybe she'll breeze in with a Big Damn Heroes moment to save the day.
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True. We seldom see Gosho using Akako these days unless necessary. The inconsistency of her characterization here and there would have made things a bit difficult. She's clearly an unconventional girl, but I don't see her interfering unless it was something like the heist where Kaito would have been caught without her.

MK is one of those series that doesn't work with the real world, even if tricks and logic are used for recent chapters. Things like magic, Lucifer, possibly immortality (from a myth/non scientific perspective) exist. Half of which thanks to Akako.
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Arisana wrote:
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True. We seldom see Gosho using Akako these days unless necessary. The inconsistency of her characterization here and there would have made things a bit difficult. She's clearly an unconventional girl, but I don't see her interfering unless it was something like the heist where Kaito would have been caught without her.

MK is one of those series that doesn't work with the real world, even if tricks and logic are used for recent chapters. Things like magic, Lucifer, possibly immortality (from a myth/non scientific perspective) exist. Half of which thanks to Akako.
*nods* I still think it would be cool if the Pandora is somehow related to apotoxin.
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queen misanagi wrote: *nods* I still think it would be cool if the Pandora is somehow related to apotoxin.
*nods as well* It seems very possible that the prototype immortality formula which turned out to be the apotoxin was derived from or even is Pandora's tears. Maybe Snake is part of a rival organization after Pandora, which the BO has, and Shinichi and Kaito are actually caught in the middle of a gang war of epic proportions. Which is why I think Vermouth is the boss, really. She is immortal somehow, but her source is running out so she builds up a huge criminal empire focused solely on finding a new source of immortality. It makes sense, especially when you think of the fact that she's the only who can go against the boss; it's because she IS the boss. And of course no one in the organization actually knows this because that would be like asking for a knife in the back, which is where her disguise skills come in handy.
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If we go by Gosho's interview, though, the MK organization is not related to the DC organization, though.

But hypothetically if Vermouth was the boss, why would she be the one to lead an investigation for immortality when she feels it is foolish? Also, why would the boss send a message to herself in the confrontation with Conan (Unless it's all staged) or send mail while Vermouth is occupied.
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And it seems that Vermouth wants the destruction of the organization.
But I'm not the Vermouth expert. Vicky from here and Mysterious (site in signature) is.
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*hoping Gosho changes his mind because he changed his mind, too about the ending of Conan*

Hey is Phantom Lady French?
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one thing I am interested is that is phantom lady Kaito's Mom?
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I thought she has gone psycho when she seemingly cut the policeman's hand
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MaitreDétective wrote:
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I thought she has gone psycho when she seemingly cut the policeman's hand
I know, right? I jumped in my seat! And then it turned out to be fake and I was all, "Duh, right, Phantom Lady uses horror stuff."
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